If City of Heroes came back what might stop you?

Started by Mistress Urd, March 01, 2013, 11:30:05 PM

MWRuger

Quote from: blacksly on May 15, 2014, 04:03:54 PM
Out of all of the complaints that I've seen in this thread, I can't think of one that would be a deal breaker and is in any way likely.

The only deal breaker would be open PvP in all areas, and that's not going to happen.

Otherwise... pay "wall", or gated content? I was paying a subscription for years, that wouldn't bother me at all.
Having to re-make characters? A shame to lose the influence and IO collections, but they can be built up again.

As a plus, I would be in the advance login group for sure, and would have a better chance to snag some snazzy names.

This.

I'm sorta on the fence about the naming thing. While it is nice to be able to get the exact name you want in CO it was amazing to see the creativity of players when Captain Awesome wasn't available: Cap'n Awesome, Captain Awesomesauce, Captain Aww-some, (various other ranks) awesome, Kapitain Awesome and maybe about a hundred other variants. I would hate to lose that.
AKA TheDevilYouKnow
Return of CoH - Oh My God! It looks like it can happen!

FourSpeed

Quote from: blacksly on May 15, 2014, 04:03:54 PM
Out of all of the complaints that I've seen in this thread, I can't think of one that would be a deal breaker and is in any way likely.

The only deal breaker would be open PvP in all areas, and that's not going to happen.

Otherwise... pay "wall", or gated content? I was paying a subscription for years, that wouldn't bother me at all.
Having to re-make characters? A shame to lose the influence and IO collections, but they can be built up again.

As a plus, I would be in the advance login group for sure, and would have a better chance to snag some snazzy names.
Well, apart from the obvious "dying thing", the one that would, unquestionably keep me out of the
game would be NCSoft having *any* position of involvement, control, or management of the game.

Absolute deal-breaker for me.

While many of the other points would have varying degrees of annoyance or frustration for me,
NCsoft needs to be 100% completely out of the picture before I'd even give any thought to a return.

They're totally done for the remainder of my life - absolutely zero give or grey area on that point.

Everything else is negotiable.


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Tahliah

Quote from: Mistress Urd on March 01, 2013, 11:30:05 PM
I'd certainly love to see CoH come back and I would most likely want to support anyone who decided to stick their neck out and reboot the servers. I was just wondering, what might be a dealbreaker to you coming back to CoH?

1. All player data being reset/lost. We all have to make new accounts and everything we bought, vet powers earned and characters made were lost. Starting over at level 1 with no characters. I would be annoyed but it wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me.
2. No further developments or changes. Game in maintenance mode. (Issue 23) That is tough knowing the game will no longer evolve.
2a. No successor.
3. Radical changes to the game. Adding in or removal of "key" features. Fairly generic catagory but its possible if the game came back the powers to be decieded to add some new feature like open world pvp or say removed bases or inventions. This might be too generic but just a topic of things changed which might make me not want to come back.

Nothing would stop me from logging back on and checking it out (and yes, re-subscribing).  I wouldn't be thrilled if all our stuff was gone, but after all this time, it seems pretty likely that it will be.  *Shrug*  I saved all my toon builds and would just rebuild the ones I wanted to and start over on the ones I didn't.

I hadn't done so much of the newer stuff (since about GR, though I did go through Praetoria a few times and had a blast), thinking I had all the time in the world, that further development wouldn't be a problem for me.  There was so much that I didn't do or see or experience.  *Sob*  I'd be kept busy for years with everything up to i23 (I'd be a teeny bit bummed that we didn't get i24, though, I was soooo looking forward to the blaster love, but given that I'm heartbroken that COH is gone, that's nothing at all.).

Well, okay, maybe if they got rid of all the instanced missions and added freaking dungeons that had to be grinded for days and all that cookie cutter crap from every other game out there, I'd not be happy and likely wouldn't stay for long.  If it were open world pvp, I wouldn't even log on to look at it.  Blech.  But then, if they did any or all of that (including getting rid of bases or the invention system; well, I'd play without those probably), it wouldn't be CoX, so I wouldn't be missing anything.

Angel Phoenix77

Nothing would stop me, I would comeback and become a lifetime sub to City of :) (I know there wont be a lifetime sub :) )
One day the Phoenix will rise again.

ukaserex

Real life.

This may not be a popular notion, but honestly, without me logging in to CoH/V every day, I've lost 60 pounds. (I can see muscles in my stomach! I'm 47! I've never seen muscles in my stomach before!
I've saved thousands of dollars, I've gotten several raises and gosh-golly, even made several real-life friends that I otherwise wouldn't have made because I would have been playing CoH instead.

I would still want to play, but I'd never be able to play with the same passion and intensity as I did before. I'd turn into one of those..."casual" gamers, who only played for an hour or so on the weekends. So very little time, it's hardly worth it, in my opinion. (Relax, nobody's ever paid dime one for my opinions)

Yes, I still miss leading the iTrials.
I still miss being led in iTrials and even task forces and ITF, specifically. Atta. Frostfire. The Striga Arcs. Soloing Dreck with my blaster and a fair amount of purple inspirations. I even miss the drama of LB, a chat channel on Liberty.

I miss the market and farming.
Generating all that inf for no other purpose than to just spend it if I needed to do so..that was the best feeling of all.
I also wish I'd gotten a little more into RP and had been less vocal about my in-game disappointments in other players. It all seems kind of silly to get upset over some player not paying attention and blowing up a bomb in the UGT. ...
Those who have no idea what they are doing genuinely have no idea that they don't know what they're doing. - John Cleese

CMKook

the one thing that might stop me is if NCsoft still owned it or had any control over any part of it that would allow them to shut it down again on whim like last time

Fleur_uk

Nothing.... if we get it back :-\  I've been surfing and ug :(   Read one article on tentonhammer, regarding mmograveyard, obviously CoH was there but the amount of NCsoft games have been vitual killed off is almost depressing, perhaps a few rightly so...but wow it was quite sad.
What got me down was I read a comment somewhere someone said, that NCsoft has been responsible for 1/3 of cancelled/killed mmo's.  And of all those mmo's not one has been sold, or brought back.  :( 
I've been so hopeful, up till I read that.  I really hope CoH will be the exception to that comment.  I miss this game ever so much.  So if it does come back, Nothing would hold me back.  Apologies for moan and going slightly off topic.  xx

Mistress Urd

I always tell people never is a long time.

Revisiting this topic, interests change and markets change too. I'm sure if the servers were turned back on today, people would be happy to come back. As to the % no one knows and its not clear how long people would stay. I'm playing a different MMO but the hours I log per week aren't even close to what I put in with CoH. I've used the past two years going to school at night and sharpening up my skills for more interesting work.

If the characters were reset and all of our character data was lost, I'd probably have to think really hard about wanting to come back. The other thing would be game development, is the game going to continue to evolve or just be in maintenance mode. I think in the end neither would stop me, but I probably wouldn't play all that much.

LadyShin

Maybe offtopic...

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This gives me chills.   :gonk:
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Netzahualcoyotl

... Atlanteans fled to far corners of the planet to preserve themselves and as much of their science and technology as time would allow...  Atlantean DNA remains among the inhabitants of Earth... and when the strains randomly cross-multiply... a re-combined Atlantean can occasionally result - stronger, faster, more evolved with abilities far beyond those of normal humanity... A being like... Atzlanticus!

Twi

I am a defender and so can you.

Power Gamer

Quote from: ukaserex on May 25, 2014, 09:37:00 PM
Real life.

This may not be a popular notion, but honestly, without me logging in to CoH/V every day, I've lost 60 pounds. (I can see muscles in my stomach! I'm 47! I've never seen muscles in my stomach before!
I've saved thousands of dollars, I've gotten several raises and gosh-golly, even made several real-life friends that I otherwise wouldn't have made because I would have been playing CoH instead.

I would still want to play, but I'd never be able to play with the same passion and intensity as I did before. I'd turn into one of those..."casual" gamers, who only played for an hour or so on the weekends. So very little time, it's hardly worth it, in my opinion. (Relax, nobody's ever paid dime one for my opinions)

Yes, I still miss leading the iTrials.
I still miss being led in iTrials and even task forces and ITF, specifically. Atta. Frostfire. The Striga Arcs. Soloing Dreck with my blaster and a fair amount of purple inspirations. I even miss the drama of LB, a chat channel on Liberty.

I miss the market and farming.
Generating all that inf for no other purpose than to just spend it if I needed to do so..that was the best feeling of all.
I also wish I'd gotten a little more into RP and had been less vocal about my in-game disappointments in other players. It all seems kind of silly to get upset over some player not paying attention and blowing up a bomb in the UGT. ...

Good on ya mate!

150lbs lost here!
It takes a village to raise a child. And it takes a villain to explain the value of lunch money.

-Random CoHer: "Why does the sky turn green during Rikti invasions?"
-Me:"Rikti Monkey farts"
-Random CoHer: "I'm going to you for all my questions from now on!"

Relitner

I'll echo the compulsory PvP concern.
Starting with empty character slots would have no impact on my decision to return. The price tag may cause me some hesitation, but I'd have to see what it is first.
in nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti amen

hejtmane

#174
Quote from: Waffles on March 10, 2013, 08:13:07 PM
New, idiotic developers that don't know half the pancake we have experienced and openly say that Paragon "Were amatuers". This would infuriate me beyond anything...And remind me of Diablo 3.

I am playing Diablo III a little but it sucks and the current PTR changes are a joke when you by pass over 90% of the attacks as a barb and every build tries to avoid using spenders and you buff the part that is already powerful further moving away from spenders then your dev team is stupid. Diablo III dev team is the worse I have ever seen in understanding balance and fixing what is broken.

Angel Phoenix77

nothing will stop me from playing again, I have quit playing sto and champions and the only other game I am somewhat playing is secret world (need blue gear to face the final enemy in the red sand arc).
One day the Phoenix will rise again.

MaidMercury

Not sure...even though I visit here...

Real life has kicked in since the shut down almost 2 years ago, I might play or not play.

Castegyre

I miss CoH quite a bit and I would play it if it came back. I don't know if it could ever be my main game again, though. After over 15 years of playing MMOs I feel burned out on a lot of the old genre standards. CoH is different in a lot of ways, but in other ways it's just more of, or variations on, the same. I look at the potential of what games like EQNext could bring to the genre and while I love CoH I don't see how it could compete as my primary game. I'd pay a sub to support it and I would play occasionally, but I think that'd be it.

Serpine

#178
Quote from: TheDevilYouKnow on May 15, 2014, 05:39:00 PMWhile it is nice to be able to get the exact name you want in CO it was amazing to see the creativity of players when Captain Awesome wasn't available: Cap'n Awesome, Captain Awesomesauce, Captain Aww-some, (various other ranks) awesome, Kapitain Awesome and maybe about a hundred other variants. I would hate to lose that.
I don't know, for every "Captain MC Awesomepants" that situation created there were a dozen guys named things like "Captain Awesome ##", where ## was the next sequential number available. :)

As to the main topic of this thread, even an owning company I'm not fond of or the oft mentioned open world PvP would not keep me away. The only things that I could see keeping me from playing a relaunched CoH or a CoH2 on some level would be:
  1) Something totally external related to real life.
  2) Total abandonment of the gameplay style (i.e. if it ever plays like NW, something horrible has happened).
  3) Character customization is removed: Everybody now has a generic look for the archetype.
  4) An insane subscription price (Only $30 a month! Act now while supplies last!)
  5) That I somehow ended up actually working on it myself, in which case I'd be mostly to busy to play. :)

So odds are, when the time comes, I'll be playing the game.

Quote from: ukaserex on May 25, 2014, 09:37:00 PMThis may not be a popular notion, but honestly, without me logging in to CoH/V every day, I've lost 60 pounds.
I actually lost that amount of weight when still playing CoH regularly, and gained it back since its been gone. CoH let me interact with a lot of my friends that no longer lived in the same real world city which improved my mood, and it made it harder to snack then when camped mindlessly in front of a TV. :) WeightWatchers helped to of course... I have to rejoin that sometime.
Guns don't kill people, meerkats do.

Waffles