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Started by CG, July 13, 2015, 03:23:45 PM

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eabrace

#40
January 28, 2016, 12:03:28 PM
Quote from: hurple on January 21, 2016, 06:40:15 PM
Spoiler for Hidden:
The producers vehemently deny this.  They have repeatably said they will NOT be turning Felicity into Oracle.  But, I agree, they should.  She'd be *perfect*
Spoiler for Hidden:
"I was going to go with Oracle, but that's already taken."
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Tenzhi

#41
January 28, 2016, 01:27:24 PM
Personally, I prefer the dark look on Felicity.

Can't believe they did that to Waller.
When you insult someone by calling them a "pig" or a "dog" you aren't maligning pigs and dogs everywhere.  The same is true of any term used as an insult.

CG

#42
January 28, 2016, 03:20:13 PM
Quote from: Vee on January 28, 2016, 09:58:21 AM
Wow that episode was really ridiculous. Just every bit of it.

Did we watch the same episode?  :o

That was a pretty good one.  Certainly better than last week's. 

Spoiler for Hidden:

I liked that Andy got something to do other than be sullen.  There's some hope for the character; it's probably just a setup for a later betrayal, but it's a happy ending for the moment.  Big Belly Burger therapy!

I loved seeing Team Arrow storm ARGUS and bust heads.  That was crackerjack.

Too bad about Waller.  I guess she was drafted to the movie universe like Deadshot.  I still think it's dumb to be making a movie about villains right off the bat.  Aren't there enough heroes to work with?  After a couple of hero movies, take all the bad guys from those and then make a suicide squad movie.

I wonder if Baron Blitzkrieg will be making an appearance in the current day Arrow fight against Darhke?

Ms. Cassidy seems to have been working out.  Nice pipes during the sparring session!
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There were lots of great one-liners in the ep too. 
Spoiler for Hidden:

Oliver: "Last month when we were fighting Vandal Savage, Barry ran back through time and changed things."
Laurel: "Wait, what?"
Oliver: "Barry can travel through time."

Felicity: "Maybe my new code name could be 'Hot Wheels.'"

Green Arrow: "I was going to go with Oracle, but it's taken."

Felicity: "The old me probably would have stolen the Rubicon access codes and made some sort of political statement."
Oliver: "The old me would have snapped Joyner's neck."

Vee

#43
January 29, 2016, 12:07:52 AM
Quote from: CG on January 28, 2016, 03:20:13 PM
Did we watch the same episode?  :o

[/spoiler]

Evidently not.

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The hallucination bits were just stupid beyond words, as was the general "i'm useless because i'm in a wheelchair" pseudo-conflict behind it. Two episodes' time, a game of cards and burger turns Diggle the younger from completely intractable even under torture to willing to risk his life for a plan even when he had the option of just staying in prison or of actually betraying them? The flashbacks now not only show that everything going on relates to something that happened to Oliver on the island but now are going to rope the Diggles in as well? Oh, and Waller not suspecting they might want to break into Argus after they took the eyes of Argus operatives, even after someone (untrustworthy or not) said the weapons were a distraction? If that's supposed to be Amanda Waller it's good that they killed her off.

Mandu

#44
January 29, 2016, 02:17:29 AM
They will change her into Oracle but not call her Oracle.  Just like Arrow is more Batman than he is Green Arrow.

Vee

#45
February 04, 2016, 07:33:26 PM
Spoiler for Hidden:
So they're going to have super-elaborate plot-convenient hallucinations every week now?

Tenzhi

#46
February 04, 2016, 08:19:06 PM
Have they had any?  Last week wasn't so much plot convenient as an awkward attempt at character growth.  This week the only one I recall was part of the ongoing, tiresome flashbacks which are inherently plot inconvenient.
When you insult someone by calling them a "pig" or a "dog" you aren't maligning pigs and dogs everywhere.  The same is true of any term used as an insult.

Vee

#47
February 04, 2016, 08:50:49 PM
Quote from: Tenzhi on February 04, 2016, 08:19:06 PM
Have they had any?  Last week wasn't so much plot convenient as an awkward attempt at character growth.  This week the only one I recall was part of the ongoing, tiresome flashbacks which are inherently plot inconvenient.

Spoiler for Hidden:
Ok maybe I should have said 'bad writer convenient'. But the point remains. From years of watching TV we're used to suspending disbelief on the occasional elaborate hallucination but consecutive weeks with different characters is really pushing it. And as far as I can tell the Felicity one was only there so they could skip straight to lame jokes this week. Oh and because presumably people commented somewhere that they liked her goth version.

Nos482

#48
February 04, 2016, 10:37:23 PM
At first i wished they'd gone with a younger Caclulator... maybe whoever voiced him on DCUO.
But with that revelation at the end, it kinda makes sense. Kinda.
Spoiler for Hidden:
What is the need to have heroes and villains know each other (or like here being related) in their everyday lifes?
I'm bad and that's good.
I'll never be good and that's not bad.
There's no one I'd rather be than me.

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hurple

#49
February 05, 2016, 03:21:50 PM
Quote from: Nos482 on February 04, 2016, 10:37:23 PM
At first i wished they'd gone with a younger Caclulator... maybe whoever voiced him on DCUO.
But with that revelation at the end, it kinda makes sense. Kinda.
Spoiler for Hidden:
What is the need to have heroes and villains know each other (or like here being related) in their everyday lifes?

I don't get your spoiler either.  I hate when superhero movies/TV do that.

Vee

#50
February 05, 2016, 03:35:14 PM
Quote from: hurple on February 05, 2016, 03:21:50 PM
I don't get your spoiler either.  I hate when superhero movies/TV do that.

Not just them, was particularly egregious in the last couple Bond movies, e.g. I don't get it either unless they're just trying to see how far the boundaries of believability can be pushed before there's a collective 'oh come onnnn'.

CG

#51
February 11, 2016, 01:57:07 PM
Spoiler for Hidden:

So, if Oliver was going to knock Malcolm out anyways, why did he cut off his hand first?  It was certainly a shocking moment.

Also, how did that little stone thing that Oliver got from his hallucination become real?

If they end up killing William, I will be done with this show.

Tenzhi

#52
February 11, 2016, 06:59:07 PM
Personally, I found William to be a pointless little plot thread.  If they kill him off, I will simply roll my eyes at the contrived drama and move on.
When you insult someone by calling them a "pig" or a "dog" you aren't maligning pigs and dogs everywhere.  The same is true of any term used as an insult.

CG

#53
February 11, 2016, 08:22:10 PM
I don't watch shows where they murder children.

Tenzhi

#54
February 11, 2016, 08:45:56 PM
Without being developed as a character within the story, it's not even a person, it's just a plot device.

Not that it would bother me either way.  Kill all the humans you want in a story... just don't kill a dog onscreen, because then you might lose me.
When you insult someone by calling them a "pig" or a "dog" you aren't maligning pigs and dogs everywhere.  The same is true of any term used as an insult.

Vee

#55
February 12, 2016, 02:04:53 AM
Anyone who hates children and animals can't be all bad.

- W. C. Fields

Tenzhi

#56
February 12, 2016, 05:24:22 AM
Quote from: Vee on February 12, 2016, 02:04:53 AM
Anyone who hates children and animals can't be all bad.

- W. C. Fields

Because you sparked my curiosity and ushered me down the internet rabbit hole:

http://www.thisdayinquotes.com/2011/02/any-man-who-hates-dogs-and-babies-cant.html?m=1
When you insult someone by calling them a "pig" or a "dog" you aren't maligning pigs and dogs everywhere.  The same is true of any term used as an insult.

Vee

#57
February 12, 2016, 05:55:50 AM
Neat. Also Leo Rosten looks like John Lovitz and Jean Paul Sartre had a kid.

Tenzhi

#58
February 12, 2016, 06:16:50 AM
Yeah, I actually thought it was a picture of Lovitz when the page first loaded (viewing from a phone, so it's a bit small).
When you insult someone by calling them a "pig" or a "dog" you aren't maligning pigs and dogs everywhere.  The same is true of any term used as an insult.

saipaman

#59
February 12, 2016, 09:40:58 PM
Quote from: CG on February 11, 2016, 01:57:07 PM
Spoiler for Hidden:

So, if Oliver was going to knock Malcolm out anyways, why did he cut off his hand first?  It was certainly a shocking moment.

Also, how did that little stone thing that Oliver got from his hallucination become real?

If they end up killing William, I will be done with this show.

I'd say that was done to provide additional motivation for Merlin's final scene of the episode. 
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