And the mask comes off.

[BadWolf]

As I recall Sam Rami is not a fan of the symbiote characters and was told by the studio to shoehorn Venom into #3.

Yes, but fans who mention this are letting him off easy. The basic plot structure would have been very similar had they gone with Raimi's idea, with the Vulture filling in Venom's part in the plot; we would still have gotten the Peter/MJ break-up, we would still have gotten the Exposition Butler, we would still have gotten the cop-out of someone else murdering Uncle Ben...

It was a flawed production. The studio didn't improve it, but they don't bear all the blame either.

[Power Gamer]

Yes, but fans who mention this are letting him off easy. The basic plot structure would have been very similar had they gone with Raimi's idea, with the Vulture filling in Venom's part in the plot; we would still have gotten the Peter/MJ break-up, we would still have gotten the Exposition Butler, we would still have gotten the cop-out of someone else murdering Uncle Ben...

It was a flawed production. The studio didn't improve it, but they don't bear all the blame either.

Interesting

[Battlechimp]

Yes, but fans who mention this are letting him off easy. The basic plot structure would have been very similar had they gone with Raimi's idea, with the Vulture filling in Venom's part in the plot; we would still have gotten the Peter/MJ break-up, we would still have gotten the Exposition Butler, we would still have gotten the cop-out of someone else murdering Uncle Ben...

It was a flawed production. The studio didn't improve it, but they don't bear all the blame either.

And don't forget, we would still have gotten the Peter dance scene....  that was all Rami

[Sinistar]

And don't forget, we would still have gotten the Peter dance scene....  that was all Rami

Well they had to keep from going Rated R so if it was a choice between a bloody violent Peter tearing into people due to the effects of the symbiote or seeing him as a dancing fool to keep the violence down.....

[darkgob]

Well they had to keep from going Rated R so if it was a choice between a bloody violent Peter tearing into people due to the effects of the symbiote or seeing him as a dancing fool to keep the violence down.....

"Middle ground"?  What's that?!

[Rejolt]

"Middle ground"?  What's that?!

The place where Peter Jackson decided to make a trilogy out of 3 hours of material?

[Stealth Dart]

 :-X

[FloatingFatMan]

So no Silmarillion movie for you!

Thank the gods for that!

One thing that puzzled me with the LoTR movies. How the hell, in all that time wasting, did they STILL manage to completely forget about Tom Bombadil? They could have made his segment alone into another three movies! :P

[Cailyn Alaynn]

One thing that puzzled me with the LoTR movies. How the hell, in all that time wasting, did they STILL manage to completely forget about Tom Bombadil? They could have made his segment alone into another three movies! :P

I'm so glad they didn't... I liked him...but It always felt to me like the beginning of Pirates of the Carribbean: Dead Mans Chest.
Movie starts, plot advances... STOP
Now we're going to come deal with this totally unrelated thing for 20 minutes!
Ok, NOW continue the relevant story.

-shrugs- I know I'm likely in the minority for it, but I think the choice was for the best.

[FloatingFatMan]

Oh I agree with you, but I'm still astonished that Jackson passed on the opportunity to make his movies even more boring. :p

[Stealth Dart]

 :-X

[KennonGL]

So no Silmarillion movie for you!

Aww, too bad. 

I mean if he managed to turn 146 page book into 3 multi-hour movies,
then the Silmarillion could have been at least 10 full "episodes".  :gonk:

Personally, I thought leaving out T.B. was a good choice.  He's an interesting character,
but really had no reason for inclusion. 

[Power Gamer]

Thank the gods for that!

One thing that puzzled me with the LoTR movies. How the hell, in all that time wasting, did they STILL manage to completely forget about Tom Bombadil? They could have made his segment alone into another three movies! :P

Tom Bombadil was, according to JRRT,  an enigma.

He wasn't forgotten, he was left out intentionally because he is out of place in the world.

Tom shows up in other JRRT stories which are clearly not Middle Earth.

[Felderburg]

The guy that does Dresden Codak (http://dresdencodak.com/) is illustrating The Silmarillion on his own: http://silmarillionproject.tumblr.com/ The Q&A is here: http://silmarillionproject.tumblr.com/post/72123140655/silmarillion-project-q-a

[tripthicket]

Just poking my head in to see if any progress has been announced. I figured not, since I've been speed-checking FaceBook almost daily (I figure news of City of Heroes' return will be shouted from the mountaintops there). The upcoming holiday season (actually, we're already hip-deep in it) has me and everyone, I'm sure, busy and only getting busier.

Still, as many have said before me, no news is good news.  :)

[Ankhammon]

Just poking my head in to see if any progress has been announced. I figured not, since I've been speed-checking FaceBook almost daily (I figure news of City of Heroes' return will be shouted from the mountaintops there). The upcoming holiday season (actually, we're already hip-deep in it) has me and everyone, I'm sure, busy and only getting busier.

Still, as many have said before me, no news is good news.  :)

It's quiet... Too quiet.

[BadWolf]

Thank the gods for that!

One thing that puzzled me with the LoTR movies. How the hell, in all that time wasting, did they STILL manage to completely forget about Tom Bombadil? They could have made his segment alone into another three movies! :P

I think it was because the Tom Bombadil scenes make the hobbits look a lot less competent.

HOBBITS: "Oh no! We've been attacked by this evil tree and we're completely helpless!"

TOM: "Don't worry, old Tom Bombadil will save you! Now you're fine--to get out of my realm safely, just take the left-hand path to avoid the barrow-wights, and you'll be just fine!"

HOBBITS: "Let's strip naked and skip merrily down the right-hand path!"

TOM: "Oh FFS."

[pinballdave]

I think it was because the Tom Bombadil scenes make the hobbits look a lot less competent.

HOBBITS: "Oh no! We've been attacked by this evil tree and we're completely helpless!"

TOM: "Don't worry, old Tom Bombadil will save you! Now you're fine--to get out of my realm safely, just take the left-hand path to avoid the barrow-wights, and you'll be just fine!"

HOBBITS: "Let's strip naked and skip merrily down the right-hand path!"

TOM: "Oh FFS."

I liked the National Lampoon version of the Lord of the Rings. I especially like the way they dealt with Tom (Benzedrine). The 'bard song' as interpreted by the lampooners was especially humorous.

[Sinistar]

What's unfortunate is that there are rumors that Hollywood wants to try to make another DUNE movie.....

When will they learn that a book like DUNE cannot be done in ONE movie?  Two movies at least.

The SciFi Channel, back in its glory days got it right when they made the 3 part mini-series. Some of the casting could have been better but it was still done well.

[Angel Phoenix77]

the one thing I wished City of has was a zone with a beach, I know there were zones that had it, but I am referring to is zones like the secret world Kingsmouth. :)