And the mask comes off.

[Shard]

I'd have to re-read the UE4 license agreement... But yes, I believe it's $19 per person. You don't have to pay monthly, I don't. You only need to pay initially, and when you need updates from Epic.

PLEASE, PLEASE bear in mind, the updates are hot and heavy at this time and sometimes don't quite play well with others.

If you're going to take this strategy, pick a release and keep all the new folks on it until you move everyone forward.  We're having a  time of it and we'vre a little more used to the release rates. :)

[Ironwolf]

Sounds like a winner. If we get it now we can start in learning the system anyways. It will take quite a while to get familiar with it and I may start taking a look at the whole Icon thing and seeing if it can be ported over - with of course the permission of Codewalker. I will send him a PM.

[Number9]

Anyone else notice that the press coverage seems to be focused on the "spiritual successor" side of the deal with next to no mention of CoH i23 getting back online?

Anyway, all these articles are getting enthusiastic comments.  I hope someone over in Korea realizes that doing this deal could greatly help their PR image.

[Ironwolf]

Anyone else notice that the press coverage seems to be focused on the "spiritual successor" side of the deal with next to no mention of CoH i23 getting back online?

Anyway, all these articles are getting enthusiastic comments.  I hope someone over in Korea realizes that doing this deal could greatly help their PR image.

To be fair at this point there is really nothing decided. The fact they are making an article based on a possibility alone is heartening.

[Dal]

Thanks to the efforts of many folks in the community, a great deal of the data that drives the game is known and documented (e.g. how much damage does a level-1 energy bolt do?  How much damage is added by one damage enhancement, etc.).  Because so much of this is known, re-implementing those numbers into a new engine is actually one of the smaller tasks ahead of the developers.

That's great! Thank goodness CoH offered us all of the numbers. :) And there's still City of Data. http://tomax.cohtitan.com/data/

[darkgob]

guys can you please wait on bringing back CoH until I finish grad school

I know it's gonna be like a year and a half but it would really be super-helpful and great if I didn't have to choose between my first MMO love and my professional future

[Pherdnut]

Well, I'm sure I'm one of many spamming offers to help but I'm a web UI dev/polyglot/generalist with about 7 years of experience and this UE4 web technology UI plugin interests me a lot:

http://coherent-labs.com/ue4/

I plan on learning my way around it this weekend just as a point of interest but I'd be delighted by any opportunity to help bring back COH in one form or another. I've been meaning to pick up some C/C++ skills for a while now for the Node binding utility and UE4 looks like a fun way to do it. R/L name is Erik Reppen. Feel free to look me up on Stack/Linked In.

[Scendera]

guys can you please wait on bringing back CoH until I finish grad school

I know it's gonna be like a year and a half but it would really be super-helpful and great if I didn't have to choose between my first MMO love and my professional future

Sorry bud...it's several thousand to 1.

[Pherdnut]

Question I keep forgetting to ask:

What's informing their reluctance to release source code for a code base that's been around this long? Is there a liability issue or something?

[MM3squints]

guys can you please wait on bringing back CoH until I finish grad school

I know it's gonna be like a year and a half but it would really be super-helpful and great if I didn't have to choose between my first MMO love and my professional future

Focus on your future bro. When the deal is done (I didn't say if, I said when. Not sure if that is over confidence of me in my happy place) this game will be waiting for you to be enjoyed :p

[Taliseian]

Content Creation Question -

I'm no artist - can barely draw a straight line.  But I've been delving more into fiction writing over the past few years and plan to participate in NaNoWriMo this year with a CoH based short story about one of my Heroes.

If I wanted to get involved in the writing/storyline/questing part, what would be a good way to get started?  Should I start delving into UE4 stuff as well?

Thanks in advance...


T

[powergridpete]

My excitement is tempered with the new development, but I am completely stoked for I23 CoH server.  Maybe it is because the I23 CoH server is the most likely to be online first. 

[Ironwolf]

Question I keep forgetting to ask:

What's informing their reluctance to release source code for a code base that's been around this long? Is there a liability issue or something?

There is a possibility that this source or part may be in other Cryptic engines and may have backdoors to the system. NCSoft would have to explain any other reason and they aren't doing so yet.

[General Sherman]

There is a possibility that this source or part may be in other Cryptic engines and may have backdoors to the system. NCSoft would have to explain any other reason and they aren't doing so yet.

And nobody wants someone entering their backdoor uninvited :o

[MWRuger]

Content Creation Question -

I'm no artist - can barely draw a straight line.  But I've been delving more into fiction writing over the past few years and plan to participate in NaNoWriMo this year with a CoH based short story about one of my Heroes.

If I wanted to get involved in the writing/storyline/questing part, what would be a good way to get started?  Should I start delving into UE4 stuff as well?

Thanks in advance...


T

Not speaking for Irish Girl

But I think new content creation is a long ways off. First you need to get the existing content ported for Hero side, then red side and gold side. That is a lot of work to do before you start on new content.

Just my suspicion but APR is going to use CoT's engine (which isn't finished yet) and will need to be modded and tinkered with to make it like CoH. That can't start until MWM is done with most of it. In the meantime, recreating the City, Rouge Isles and Pretoria in UE4 is a pretty big task in itself.

At some point though APR will have to recreate the missions and such and that will sorta be content creation but mostly copy and paste work or maybe just a lot of typing. Hopefully I23 will be running and some of it can come from there and certainly side-by-side comparisons can be done to insure that it is as close as possible.

But from her posts I think that it will be a week or two before she can start in earnest because of her move.

[dwturducken]

And nobody wants someone entering their backdoor uninvited :o

"Donut, you can ruin anything!"

;)

[General Sherman]

"Donut, you can ruin anything!"

;)

Sorry, momentary lapse of sanity.

But nice RvB reference ;D

[LaughingAlex]

Sorry, momentary lapse of sanity.

But nice RvB reference ;D

Thought that to, didn't comment LOL.  I was to busy laughing.  Shame they killed him off :(.

[Felderburg]

Well, I got to page 21 before I decided to stop. This is great news! Sorry if anything I'm saying has been opinionated on or answered. A few thoughts:

1. Licensing is great, as Atlantea (?) said. Opens up the possibility of the table top game actually being completed, and more comics based in that world. Hopefully more Freem shirts to be made, too...

2. Speaking of licensing, I am naturally curious as to how the current successor projects will use it. Obviously a lot has gone in to making a story completely separate from CoH, but some of the villain groups I've seen in the projects are fairly obvious stand-ins for CoH groups (of course, some CoH groups were fairly obvious stand-ins for clichéd DC or Marvel groups). I could see the successors just slapping a sticker on their game that says "Official 'City of Heroes' Successor!" I could also see them modifying the story, setting in a different city, or an alternate dimension, and taking the groups / NPCs they see fit to include and using them.

3. Speaking of successors, the pending "officialness" of the successors does give me concern about splitting the player base. Obviously people will play different games based on their preferences, but I can't help but wonder if the successors would want to "team up" with pricing? E.g. give a special reduced sub price to all three games (rather than $15 a month each, $30 total for all three). Something like that.

[Wammo]

Just a thought that came to my mind...

I wonder what the real population will be upon relaunch. I know this is again speculation but have any of you taken a moment to consider how many or few of us there are who want to play again? I think this really should be taken into account when considering how many servers to launch.