The Big Giant Icon Thread

[Illusionss]

Please excuse non-techy cluelessness! I downloaded the i24 client from the savecoh site, and there all the files are in a zip file. What do I do now? Do I extract all those to my regular CoH folder?

The zip has one folder called CoHBeta inside, and when I open that, I see a whole bunch of files, as in my regular CoH folder. I'm sort of at a loss as to what to do now.

[FatherXmas]

Copy the latest Icon into the CoHBeta folder and run it.  You will probably need to set your graphics once you are in the game.

[Haggard4Life]

Please excuse non-techy cluelessness! I downloaded the i24 client from the savecoh site, and there all the files are in a zip file. What do I do now? Do I extract all those to my regular CoH folder?

The zip has one folder called CoHBeta inside, and when I open that, I see a whole bunch of files, as in my regular CoH folder. I'm sort of at a loss as to what to do now.

I had this same problem and it turned out that I needed WinZip to to unzip all the split files.  The WinZip program handles everything as long as you have all the split files in the same folder.  (You can download the free trial here.  I uninstalled it right after it was done. :) ).

[Ice Trix]

Again, thank you SO MUCH.

[The Fifth Horseman]

Please excuse non-techy cluelessness! I downloaded the i24 client from the savecoh site, and there all the files are in a zip file. What do I do now? Do I extract all those to my regular CoH folder?

If you want to replace your regular CoH client with the beta client.
Otherwise just unpack it anywhere else and you'll have a functional i24 client AND the regular i23 one. :)

I had this same problem and it turned out that I needed WinZip to to unzip all the split files.  The WinZip program handles everything as long as you have all the split files in the same folder.  (You can download the free trial here.  I uninstalled it right after it was done. :) ).

7Zip is freeware and does the same stuff. :)

[MishaFox]

I hate to be the one to bring this up but what does NCSoft think of you basically copying their game a recreating it? I'd really hate to see us all get sued by them.

[Little David]

Father Xmas was expecting it, actually. But I don't think they'd sue everybody. I think the absolute worst case scenario would be NCSoft forcing Titan Network to shut down with a cease and desist.

[saipaman]

Going after people distributing the client is a waste of money UNLESS there is a working private server to go with it.

[Codewalker]

It would be interesting. Icon does not contain any of NCSoft's intellectual property*. It simply allows you to use the content that already exists on your hard drive, that we all paid for when we bought the box copy from the store.

If they tried to argue that it bypasses effective copy-protection measures (it doesn't, but a lawyer might try to stretch the definition), well, there's a specific DMCA exemption that permits bypassing such restrictions if they are obsolete (due to the manufacturer no longer maintaining them) and preventing access to legally acquired works.

Worst case scenario, Tony decides that it's not worth the hassle and just removes the download, leaving thousands of copies in the hands of everybody who wants it and no single point that can be shut down.

Best case scenario, the community steps up to the plate and mounts a legal defense, resulting in NCSoft being slapped down in court for attempting to abuse copyright law to stifle free speech. Might even get a punitive ruling against them, or even access to some of their internal documents during discovery.

* This is also why we won't endorse links to people distributing the client of their own accord. As a common carrier, we also wouldn't go out of our way to remove them unless they were shown to be infringing and we were requested to do so.

[Arachnion]

I hate to be the one to bring this up but what does NCSoft think of you basically copying their game a recreating it? I'd really hate to see us all get sued by them.

Judging by their total lack of reaction towards anything the community has done or tried since the shutdown...

Besides, it's not exactly copying/recreating the game.

It's enabling access to the client, so we may view maps, use the character creator, see MOV animations, fly around, etc.

I wouldn't worry about it at all, :)

[GamingGlen]

Thanks so much, Codewalker.  If you're ever in the Ft. Lauderdale, Fl, area, I'm buying.. drinks, dinner, hook... well, not the last one. :D

[malonkey1]

Thanks so much, Codewalker.  If you're ever in the Ft. Lauderdale, Fl, area, I'm buying.. drinks, dinner, hook... well, not the last one. :D

...But if you don't buy hooks, how do you plan to catch fish?

[pmoyer]

I don't know why PDP is crashing for you. Did you try a reboot of the computer to make sure no other programs were interfering?

Ok, tried again, I24/Beta on a freshly-started Mac Pro... and when I try to change maps to the PDP, it dies on me.  Ahwell.

--- Philip

[saipaman]

Think of the publicity we could get if NCSoft made an issue of it and we fought back!

[Garble]

I can only make the I23 version work on my Mac. I downloaded the Mac Beta from the torrent on savecoh.com and followed the directions but when I click on it, nothing happens at all.

I'm loving being able to explore the city again, but seeing all the I24-only stuff makes me frustrated.

[Golden Girl]

I hate to be the one to bring this up but what does NCSoft think of you basically copying their game a recreating it?

Players are simply accessing the art assets that are already on their computer which they paid for when they purchased the game. NCsoft also has no revenue stream from CoH which could be damaged by the Icon program, and none of those developing the Icon program are making money from it and NCsoft's IP.

As NCsoft requested, we're just flying free - http://na.cityofheroes.com/en/sunset.php

[Shenku]

Players are simply accessing the art assets that are already on their computer which they paid for when they purchased the game. NCsoft also has no revenue stream from CoH which could be damaged by the Icon program, and none of those developing the Icon program are making money from it and NCsoft's IP.

As NCsoft requested, we're just flying free - http://na.cityofheroes.com/en/sunset.php

Technically speaking, not everyone even needed to pay for it when the servers were still up since Free to Play basically meant letting people download all of those art assets for free(technically, even the market place only art assets, since they were already on your computer). Essentially, Icon is giving us access to what was freely distributed content, but is now unavailable. I'm no lawyer, but I think that changes things a little bit from a legal standpoint, doesn't it? I mean, they were letting us download all the art assets to our computers for free, after all, why shouldn't we be allowed to access stuff that's on our own computers?

It's not piracy or anything like that, so as long as we don't rip the models/textures out and attempt to resell them I don't think there's a legal leg to stand on for NCSoft to shut down Icon.

Private servers, on the other hand, are an entirely different kettle of worms...

[Ohioknight]

Theoretically, wouldn't even private servers not violate IP if they were reverse engineered for function?  How much of the game is client side? (granted, I'm sure even Codewalker isn't interested in that level of insane development)

[LLX]

I was thinking the same thing, i think it would be pretty easy to set up a private server for CoH-Icon and as long as we don't make any money off of it we should be fine legally....right?

[Codewalker]

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