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Started by Ironwolf, March 06, 2014, 03:01:32 PM

HEATSTROKE

Quote from: Aggelakis on April 22, 2014, 07:37:48 AM
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Removed a bunch of posts. If you're going to say the game will be reopened, don't make it your first post here with no links to corroborate. Your post will just be deleted as trolling. :p

Thank you because thats exactly the kind of stuff we dont need.

Triage IV

Yes, thank you.

And...I LOVE the police drone-like graphic.  I envisioned the posts being vaporized and hauled away.  Nice.
Waiting for the day Paragon returns.

BenshowSly

Quote from: Aggelakis on April 22, 2014, 07:37:48 AM
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Removed a bunch of posts. If you're going to say the game will be reopened, don't make it your first post here with no links to corroborate. Your post will just be deleted as trolling. :p

I'm very disappointed that you didn't take one of those police bots that was protecting places like City Hall and such as picture.

I would have thought better of you, Aggelakis (of course, I'm just kidding  ;D )

Eskreema

I really wanted to put in a Leslie Nielsen (Airplane)  meme, but I'm not sure how so ill just say...

Good luck, we're all counting on you...

Oh, and thank you very much for all of your hard work.
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Aggelakis

Quote from: BenshowSly on April 22, 2014, 04:42:49 PM
I'm very disappointed that you didn't take one of those police bots that was protecting places like City Hall and such as picture.

I would have thought better of you, Aggelakis (of course, I'm just kidding  ;D )
That's my mod hat, you can't wear drones as hats!
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Ironwolf

To clarify - there is a meeting scheduled with a person at NCSoft that was referred by 2 seperate sources as the person we need to start with.

Keep hoping - I do not have a date yet for when the meeting is to happen.

To whet your appetite here is a link to some conversions of CoH to Unreal 4 engine - not the people trying to get the game but a vision of what it could look like. Apparently they are just pulling the .piggs over and converting them and it is not too hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Bg_xIAekCys

BenshowSly

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Quote from: Aggelakis on April 22, 2014, 07:29:35 PM
That's my mod hat, you can't wear drones as hats!

Pffft... Try it and we'll see :p

Quote from: Ironwolf on April 22, 2014, 07:39:45 PM
To clarify - there is a meeting scheduled with a person at NCSoft that was referred by 2 seperate sources as the person we need to start with.

Keep hoping - I do not have a date yet for when the meeting is to happen.

To whet your appetite here is a link to some conversions of CoH to Unreal 4 engine - not the people trying to get the game but a vision of what it could look like. Apparently they are just pulling the .piggs over and converting them and it is not too hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Bg_xIAekCys

Maybe I'll get rocks thrown at me for saying that but I think I would prefer graphics as they are than brand new graphics. I know everything has to evolve someday and I am a nostalgic one but I would take everything as it was when the game closed down (on Beta server that is). Nothing more, nothing less.

But I guess it's only me *shrugs*

EDIT: Just to clarify, I don't mean necessarily the user data but the game content. The User Data would be just a nice addition to all this but for the game itself, I would prefer already like it was.

Styrj

BenshowSly:  You are not alone with that thought.  For me, it was all about game play, not graphics.  I thought, with Ultra mode turned up to max, CoH looked pretty darn good. I would love to get the game back as it was on Test w/I24 (even if I had to start from scratch).
If it ain't broke, don't fix it!  Infinity Server...

mrultimate

Live with I-23...Yes! Beta with I-24 ...YES! The stuff that Irish Girl and her team is doing with Revival looks fantastic! It gives me great hope for CoT. The only thing I want from any of the games is no twitchy combat, I don't want to have to aim my powers, I don't want to have to block attacks, I don't want to have a power be an endurance builder etc etc, City of Heroes was great in the fact that it was easy for people with disabilities to play. I have nerve damage in my left hand which makes operating a controller difficult for me now so while I love console games it becomes frustrating at times. Probalbly my only gripe with Incarnate content was the amount of dodging in it although compared to other gaming experiences it was simple enough. That said I grow ever hopeful that we will be able to return to our city again.

Tubbius

We want this City!
We want this City of He-ee-roes!
We want this City!
We want this City of He-ee-rooooooooooes. . . .

I'm no good at parodies.  Anyone want to run with this one?  :)

MWRuger

Quote from: Tubbius on April 22, 2014, 10:03:20 PM
We want this City!
We want this City of He-ee-roes!
We want this City!
We want this City of He-ee-rooooooooooes. . . .

I'm no good at parodies.  Anyone want to run with this one?  :)

I would if I could force myself to listen to Starship sing that awful song.
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Return of CoH - Oh My God! It looks like it can happen!

Samuraiko

Quote from: Ironwolf on March 06, 2014, 07:03:27 PM
I will give you the facts as I get them,  filtered to protect sources.

A company did offer to buy the IP and NCSoft was willing to sell it for very little. However they wanted to keep the game engine rights. The company decided the IP without the engine wasn't what they wanted.

So to my point, if we offer to run the game with minimal costs, letting them retain all rights it would be worth more to a potential buyer. Why buy a dead game if you could buy a working one?

Define "very little."
The game may be gone, but the videos are still here...
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Ohioknight

Well, I know this is still LIKELY to collapse and fall through...  :gonk:

But SCREW IT, my expectations and excitement can't possibly get HIGHER!!!  :D

WAIT,  YES THEY CAN!!! THEY JUST DID!!! ;D

Thanks Ironwolf -- I won't hate you when I'm dashed back to Earth

(hey, worst case, the news that NCSoft is willing to TALK about selling is the best news in 18 months!)
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ike

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Quote from: Aggelakis on April 22, 2014, 07:29:35 PM
That's my mod hat, you can't wear drones as hats!

Maybe i can challenge that notion.

NEW TF2 WIP

https://images.weserv.nl/?url=puu.sh%2F8jsUf.jpg

WIP Police drone as a reference/homage to the forever active protectors of Atlas Park in City of Heroes.

I wanted to deviate from the original a bit to avoid copyright though, so i had an idea to do this: https://images.weserv.nl/?url=puu.sh%2F8jtjm.jpg

just a quick draw over in MS Paint, but i realized that i had no idea what to do with those parts on the side. any ideas, or should i go with the original lights design?

The extruded face on the front is going to be a plate with the word "POLICE" on it.
hat extraordinare

Triage IV

I like the Unreal 4 look, but, truthfully, prefer the old look more.

If they had the old game come back, then, worked on getting CoH 2 out with the new engine...I would seriously hope both versions would be available to play.   In that case, I might still stay with the old...unless the new was identical except for how things looked.
Waiting for the day Paragon returns.

LaughingAlex

It'd be awsome if they could do as they are hoping to.  I'd like to see likewise how if they did translate to UE4 how characters would look.  I should make a nord face in skyrim to show what a certain character of mine is supposed to look like, face wise, at such resolutions.
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LaughingAlex

Quote from: Triage IV on April 23, 2014, 02:15:33 AM
I like the Unreal 4 look, but, truthfully, prefer the old look more.

If they had the old game come back, then, worked on getting CoH 2 out with the new engine...I would seriously hope both versions would be available to play.   In that case, I might still stay with the old...unless the new was identical except for how things looked.

My thoughts on it, often I had that feeling myself for a while, so I can understand it, at the same time though, I often find that newer engines are more optimized.  I'd also like to say that a newer engine doesn't necessarily mean the look and style changes, as it's the colors and the art style that matter, more than the technology.
Currently; Not doing any streaming, found myself with less time available recently.  Still playing starbound periodically, though I am thinking of trying other games.  Don't tell me to play mmohtg's though please :).  Getting back into participating in VO and the successors again to.

ike

https://images.weserv.nl/?url=puu.sh%2F8jJwQ.jpg

In case you guys were wondering, Here is the finished model right next to the scouts head for a sense of scale. I tried to make its size similar to the police drones in CoH, so it's about 2/3 the size of the in-game Balloonicorn:
http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Balloonicorn
hat extraordinare

JKPhage

Quote from: Ironwolf on April 22, 2014, 07:39:45 PM
To whet your appetite here is a link to some conversions of CoH to Unreal 4 engine - not the people trying to get the game but a vision of what it could look like. Apparently they are just pulling the .piggs over and converting them and it is not too hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Bg_xIAekCys

Holy PANCAKE that looks good! I know this isn't the people aiming to make a deal currently, but if they plan something similar along these lines I would be very pleased, as long as they built a gameplay engine that was as close to an exact approximation of the original engine. Unreal runs very smoothly and looks really nice when done right. Honestly, to me, that video looks like Ultra Mode 2.0. It's the same assets, but with WAY better lighting, better textures/bump mapping and improved environmental effects. The potential for actual weather effects in-game would be lovely too.

Either way, you said that they seem to be planning to bring the game back while they work on an improved version? That sounds good but it makes me worry that it was worded that way, as I'd hope that if they plan to develop a COH2 of some kind that they would simply keep the classic game running even if it wasn't being actively developed. If we're talking an engine update to make the game run smoother and look better without changing the way the game actually plays then I'm fine with that, especially if the results look as good as/better than that video you linked. So much potential and the sky really is the limit if they manage to seal a deal. Being former players I'm sure they've wanted/dreamed of the same things we all have and would want to make them happen however possible.

Thanks for keeping us posted Ironwolf, it's really given me something to look forward to each day, watching for your updates.

LaughingAlex

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Quote from: JKPhage on April 23, 2014, 05:18:43 AM
Holy PANCAKE that looks good! I know this isn't the people aiming to make a deal currently, but if they plan something similar along these lines I would be very pleased, as long as they built a gameplay engine that was as close to an exact approximation of the original engine. Unreal runs very smoothly and looks really nice when done right. Honestly, to me, that video looks like Ultra Mode 2.0. It's the same assets, but with WAY better lighting, better textures/bump mapping and improved environmental effects. The potential for actual weather effects in-game would be lovely too.

Either way, you said that they seem to be planning to bring the game back while they work on an improved version? That sounds good but it makes me worry that it was worded that way, as I'd hope that if they plan to develop a COH2 of some kind that they would simply keep the classic game running even if it wasn't being actively developed. If we're talking an engine update to make the game run smoother and look better without changing the way the game actually plays then I'm fine with that, especially if the results look as good as/better than that video you linked. So much potential and the sky really is the limit if they manage to seal a deal. Being former players I'm sure they've wanted/dreamed of the same things we all have and would want to make them happen however possible.

Thanks for keeping us posted Ironwolf, it's really given me something to look forward to each day, watching for your updates.

As long as the damage mitigation oriented gameplay that ensured any kind of team could work and not just holy trinity teams I'd be happy, the core gameplay of CoX that I tended to enjoy, which is what matters to me.  As long as that kind of balance is intact know?

Edit: To clarify, what I loved about CoX was you didn't need any specific team setup but more that any powerset could work with the AT's and that no one was confined to only one role all the time.  As long as whoever takes over understands that.  Heck, one of the reasons I wish to do a small lets play on the game was to highlight the importance of that as it is what separated city of heroes from other mmorgps and allowed it to be a super hero mmorpg, as the random teams teamwork revolved around their powers and how they synergized with one another, not necessarily one person healing everyone else but one person for instance shielding others, or giving them forsight into future attacks or covering them with crowd control via mind control or gravity control ect.

All the while, others in that same team protect that person so he can do so through their own means like freezing enemies or just knocking them up, heck teams could succeed in CoX without any healing.  If anyone were to remove that and force the trinity back in to "encourage teamwork" they'd only discourage the team variety, as city of heroes was at it's core a team oriented game, but team oriented in a good way that encouraged a huge variety of teamplay in that almost every team could be different and succeed.  Variety that holy trinities only detract from and if anything, utterly destroy variety and cause a game to stagnate.

Keep editing this post but, CoX refused to become stagnant for me because of that huge variety, and the fact that it still kept getting new stuff.

Another Edit: Corrected a word, as i meant to say discourage, not encourage
Currently; Not doing any streaming, found myself with less time available recently.  Still playing starbound periodically, though I am thinking of trying other games.  Don't tell me to play mmohtg's though please :).  Getting back into participating in VO and the successors again to.