The Big Giant Icon Thread

[darkgob]

Just in case the smiley isn't enough of a hint, darkgob is being facetious (or he's just wrong). It's common knowledge that RE work began before the shutdown, and is ongoing.

Both of these are preposterous.  Preposterous I say!!

[Flow-Vector]

Both of these are preposterous.  Preposterous I say!!

I imagine this is an example of facetiousness.

[The Fifth Horseman]

Onto my thoughts, I understand that spawning and such is handled by the server and to get actual combat and spawns in CoH would be a MASSIVE undertaking, and i don't expect that from you guys/girls (What you have given us is above and beyond), but how difficult would adding combat and enemies actually be? Would it be comparable to rebuilding that half of the game?

It would require recreating a significant portion of the server code. Currently Icon works by duping the game client into loading the zones without a server connection.

[goodtime]

Onto my thoughts, I understand that spawning and such is handled by the server and to get actual combat and spawns in CoH would be a MASSIVE undertaking, and i don't expect that from you guys/girls (What you have given us is above and beyond), but how difficult would adding combat and enemies actually be? Would it be comparable to rebuilding that half of the game? or more getting a hold of copyrighted files issues. Just some understanding is all i am after

That probably depends on how much information is saved in the map itself.   We know that most of the contacts - but definitely not all - are there, since codewalker has said as much.   We know the spawn points are listed, since we can see them in dev mode.   But do the spawn points list the types of enemies and levels?   When specific spawns appear (like wolves vs vampires in parts of Striga, say), or how often?  I would imagine that since we haven't seen any auto-spawning in Icon it means that information isn't on the client map.    Hopefully if codewalker has the time he can let us know.

I'm kind of torn between wanting to request more, and waiting to see what codewalker and the Titan folks are up to.   I guess I'll just keep checking back and playing with my demo code.

[TonyV]

Facetious, i hear that word quite often and i never know what it means.

Of, regarding, or relating to the face.  "Wow, your nose and cheeks got really sunburned today!" would be a facetious comment.

[Phaetan]

Just to let people know, Tacitala and I are slowly building a popmenu for action/stance commands.  No ETA on its completion at this time, as this is a somewhat slow and eyestraining process.

[Arachnion]

Just to let people know, Tacitala and I are slowly building a popmenu for action/stance commands.  No ETA on its completion at this time, as this is a somewhat slow and eyestraining process.

Do take your time, no rush.

[Codewalker]

Before you get tooooo far in the action popmenu, I do have some plans there that I'll need community help with. But I'll need people to come up with a list of emote name -> sequencer bit mappings, which work a bit differently than the MOVs that are currently used. So I don't know if I'd spend a ton of time doing popmenus for those just yet.

[Phaetan]

Huh.  Well, we'd already sorted a few hundred of them, but hadn't finalized the list, the categories, or coding yet.  Guess you've freed up our afternoon, then.

[GamingGlen]

Do any of the indoor mission maps work?  I keep crashing trying to load warehouse mission maps.  I'd like one of the new ones with the conveyor belt room; it's hard to have the supervillain talk about his master plan without showing off his place of "business".

[Phaetan]

Are you using the I24 beta and Icon 1.7?  that's step one on figuring out what's wrong.

[GamingGlen]

Icon 1.7.  Either Beta or not-Beta versions crash when I load up a warehouse map (tried a few in each).

[Phaetan]

Well, I just tested with /maps/missions/warehouse/warehouse_60/warehouse_60_layout_05_01.txt and had no problems.  If that crashes on you, then I suspect that you might have a corrupted file, maybe one of the assets that goes into the warehouse maps.

Someone with  technical competence might be able to give more useful information than that.  Sorry I can't do more.

[Zombie Man]

I updated the wiki on Titan Icon (see sig) to include the available PopMenus:

maps
time of day
NPCs/items
MOVs

[GamingGlen]

Well, I just tested with /maps/missions/warehouse/warehouse_60/warehouse_60_layout_05_01.txt and had no problems.  If that crashes on you, then I suspect that you might have a corrupted file, maybe one of the assets that goes into the warehouse maps.

Someone with  technical competence might be able to give more useful information than that.  Sorry I can't do more.

Crashed with that one, and an office map.  I loaded one of the signature arc maps (going down a light blue hallway with turrets, was looking for the "on the asteroid" map) the other day, and been able to load midnighter front room map, just regular mission maps do not work.  Haven't had problems with outdoor zone maps so far.

[wyldhunt]

Tacitala and Phaetan, thank you for expanding the maps.mnu! I'll also be very interested to see what you come up with for an emote/fx popmenu. I just don't have the time to delve extensively into this right now (won't again until next summer, at which time I'll see what's up with the various projects and how I can help more).

Zombie_Man, next time you're updating the Titan Icon page at ParagonWiki, you might want to place Phaetan's link (https://app.box.com/s/v0bko53w2d8cbrucdiv2) on the page rather than mine (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5FhLhcBjWhvQ2g0bW5LLU9jTFE/edit?pli=1), since Phaetan's is more extensive now.

[Phaetan]

GamingGlen, it really sounds like something has gone wonky in one of the files, then.  I'm sorry.  You may need to redownload things, if someone else can't give a better suggestion.

Thank you, wyldhunt; it's nice ot have the blessing of the person whose work we were expanding on in the maps.mnu file.  We've put the mov/fx popmenu on hold for the moment due to Codewalker's comment, although if it turns out that his project will take a while to implement, we may go ahead and finish compiling it to serve in the interim.

[Zombie Man]

Tacitala and Phaetan, thank you for expanding the maps.mnu! I'll also be very interested to see what you come up with for an emote/fx popmenu. I just don't have the time to delve extensively into this right now (won't again until next summer, at which time I'll see what's up with the various projects and how I can help more).

Zombie_Man, next time you're updating the Titan Icon page at ParagonWiki, you might want to place Phaetan's link (https://app.box.com/s/v0bko53w2d8cbrucdiv2) on the page rather than mine (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5FhLhcBjWhvQ2g0bW5LLU9jTFE/edit?pli=1), since Phaetan's is more extensive now.

Done.

[RockLeeXIII]

LoL ... hey Zombie_Man ... instead of saying "Done" you should lead with "Brains" 

[The Fifth Horseman]

GamingGlen, it really sounds like something has gone wonky in one of the files, then.  I'm sorry.  You may need to redownload things, if someone else can't give a better suggestion.

He can use the torrent download of i24 to recheck the files and download only the corrupted / missing ones. Fundamental part of how BitTorrent downloading works.