TF:HM update #2

[johnrobey]

F7!  err, um, I mean, READY!   :P

[Joshex]

The pitch went out yesterday :-)

I'm just waiting for some info from Mercedes on the best address for you guys to send postcards/letters to, and then I'll past those details along :-)

It's in googles hands now, please don't fail..

[Triplash]

Woohoo! :D

*crosses fingers....    ...and toes....     ...and eyes :o ... *

[Omega Mark V]

Time for more paperwork! Let me at it. ;)

[TimtheEnchanter]

Just pretend that a villain named 'Yahoo' is vandalizing the City.

www.geocities.com  :'(

[srmalloy]

Jeez, I left out the obvious: Microsoft.  Has anyone pitched to them?  Of the bunch, they seem the most likely of all.

City Of on the Xbox One...  Stranger things have been known to happen.

I can easily see Microsoft releasing City of Heroes on the Xbox One... and only on the Xbox One. Bungie was developing Halo for the PC and Macintosh when Microsoft bought Bungie and turned the game into the flagship for the original Xbox, heavily modifying it into an FPS game; a year after it was released, Gearbox released a port to Windows (and a year after that for MacOS), but none of the sequels were released for any platform other than the Xbox/Xbox 360.

Yes, I can easily see Microsoft doing this. Why just control the MMO when you can control the hardware it runs on?

[Joshex]

I can easily see Microsoft releasing City of Heroes on the Xbox One... and only on the Xbox One. Bungie was developing Halo for the PC and Macintosh when Microsoft bought Bungie and turned the game into the flagship for the original Xbox, heavily modifying it into an FPS game; a year after it was released, Gearbox released a port to Windows (and a year after that for MacOS), but none of the sequels were released for any platform other than the Xbox/Xbox 360.

Yes, I can easily see Microsoft doing this. Why just control the MMO when you can control the hardware it runs on?

not only that, there is a clear line we must draw, we are computer gamers, we are an entirely different crowd than console gamers, trust me when I say this, you don't want that crowd influencing the next stages of CoH. it will be like the transition from Teen Titans to The New Teen Titans GO!........................................... - god save us from that fate.

ok thats one reason. reason 2;

Microsoft is The King of all Unicorns, and the internet is thier Unicorn Pit. Microsoft keeps the cake for themselves and passes out slices at thier unmonitored security and call centers in india. yes the same service centers that recieve your crash reports and call you a few days later if you have a phonenumber linked to your account and say "oh you have a terrible virus we are from microsoft, your computer only has 1 week left of run time and we're surprised it's still running right now we'll help you get rid of the virus but you must buy one of our Care packages they are as low as $140 per month."

mind you those same call centers also supply most of the MMO industry's gold sale sites like [link removed]

they also supply gold spam in world chat in your favorite games, and spam emails, internet pyramid schemes, the fake secret shopper company that has you test western union by sending some random person $1000. oh and did I mention in thier spare time they bot games and hack PVP to PWN anyone who tries to get PVP items? oh lets not stop there either, you know all those survey sites and sites claiming to offer a free $100 gift card? yeah sorry to have to tell you this but the call centers run those too.

[EDIT: don't link to gold spam sites! ~Agge]

[Gothenem]

I am going to agree that Microsoft isn't the sort of company that we want heading the CoX ship. Yahoo! could be an option, though I would think of them as a last resort.

[JaguarX]

Meh, to me who ever would work. I wouldnt count them out. Like when people dogged CO all day and night on the forum but when COX went down, they were the first to go to CO.

I have more worries about Google than Microsoft, but the way I figure, who ever can get the job done and maybe get the game back. They all are suspect in their own way especially with information selling, privacy protection (wasnt there a big news thing about Google about a year ago and privacy how weak their protection was and ended up changing their privacy notice and the founders basically saying they dont give a crap about people's information or privacy. I have the article saved on my cpu somewhere.). But even that with my internal nervousness about COX becoming a personal information mine for Google to spread around and have ads and unwanted phone calls from it and credit card information too, I still think that if there is a chance they bite, then it should be sought.

I thought we would have learned to not burn or count out bridges especially before they are even built because it can come back to bite especially in this case where the chances are slim anyways and might need Microsoft, might need Yahoo, might need Uncle Bob that lives in the barn help, especially if Google dont work out. I hope it does, and I assume by now we all know it's no guarantee, so why count out the other options before even exploring them? Google isnt a saint of a corporation by any means and liable to buy it and sit on it or change it to where it's only the same game in title but no semblence to the game that was left and have to use google social media to sign up to use the game and must go through a 2 minute google ad between zoning in and out and signing in and out and pop up links for all we know. Google if they buy it, will  be looking to make money and probably more money than NCSoft expected to make like any corporation of Yahoo and microsoft.

"A little evil, a lot of evil, midly evil, slightly evil either way it's still evil."

[Joshex]

Meh, to me who ever would work. I wouldnt count them out. Like when people dogged CO all day and night on the forum but when COX went down, they were the first to go to CO.

I have more worries about Google than Microsoft, but the way I figure, who ever can get the job done and maybe get the game back. They all are suspect in their own way especially with information selling, privacy protection (wasnt there a big news thing about Google about a year ago and privacy how weak their protection was and ended up changing their privacy notice and the founders basically saying they dont give a crap about people's information or privacy. I have the article saved on my cpu somewhere.). But even that with my internal nervousness about COX becoming a personal information mine for Google to spread around and have ads and unwanted phone calls from it and credit card information too, I still think that if there is a chance they bite, then it should be sought.

I thought we would have learned to not burn or count out bridges especially before they are even built because it can come back to bite especially in this case where the chances are slim anyways and might need Microsoft, might need Yahoo, might need Uncle Bob that lives in the barn help, especially if Google dont work out. I hope it does, and I assume by now we all know it's no guarantee, so why count out the other options before even exploring them? Google isnt a saint of a corporation by any means and liable to buy it and sit on it or change it to where it's only the same game in title but no semblence to the game that was left and have to use google social media to sign up to use the game and must go through a 2 minute google ad between zoning in and out and signing in and out and pop up links for all we know. Google if they buy it, will  be looking to make money and probably more money than NCSoft expected to make like any corporation of Yahoo and microsoft.

"A little evil, a lot of evil, midly evil, slightly evil either way it's still evil."

google removed my favorite picture from the image search back in 2004... I can't find it at all now.... I had saved it to a disk but the disk got warped when i was moving down into the heat of the southern us and the disk wont read.. i threw it out.. it was very hard to throw away the last reference to my favorite picture ever.. yeah google can be rough, but... meh.. I even contacted them abotu the picture recently telling them I'll pay $100 if they can find it.. sadly they said they can't help with that issue.

still I think CoH will be safer in google's hands then NCSoft's.

[JaguarX]

still I think CoH will be safer in google's hands then NCSoft's.

Yup. I think so to.

I someone offered a choice and said, "look you can sit here in the nothingness where you know what will happen, nothing at all nosuprises no worrying about the future, it's the world of nothing. Or you can go out and risk it all and might end up in a position where you are begging for nothingness or you might end up in a position that is more glorious than you ever seen."   

What would City of Heroes, if it was aware and could say so, what choice you think it will choose?

[Spatch1971]

Fingers crossed, and awaiting further instructions.

[kalynnda13]

Almost final Google video is up at http://youtu.be/V75ADN7BKM4. I noticed that the Rikti dialog is not at the max size, I'll fix it tonight. 

Suggestions are still welcome.

I want this game back so much...please, Google, please buy our game.

[Cinnder]

I like it, Kalynnda!

Heh, Luck Charms vs university fees... :-)

[OzonePrime]

Almost final Google video is up at http://youtu.be/V75ADN7BKM4. I noticed that the Rikti dialog is not at the max size, I'll fix it tonight. 

Suggestions are still welcome.

I want this game back so much...please, Google, please buy our game.

I think this is awesome! Great effort!

[Spatch1971]

Awesome video.  Just seeing the streets of Paragon City left me wanting more.  Please Google, make this happen.

[LightBlack]

Almost final Google video is up at http://youtu.be/V75ADN7BKM4. I noticed that the Rikti dialog is not at the max size, I'll fix it tonight. 

Suggestions are still welcome.

I want this game back so much...please, Google, please buy our game.

Good work. The Freakshow dialog also seems a little small.

[Pinnacle Blue]

The pitch went out yesterday :-)

I'm just waiting for some info from Mercedes on the best address for you guys to send postcards/letters to, and then I'll past those details along :-)

I am so ready!  :D

[Illusionss]

I can easily see Microsoft releasing City of Heroes on the Xbox One... and only on the Xbox One. Bungie was developing Halo for the PC and Macintosh when Microsoft bought Bungie and turned the game into the flagship for the original Xbox, heavily modifying it into an FPS game; a year after it was released, Gearbox released a port to Windows (and a year after that for MacOS), but none of the sequels were released for any platform other than the Xbox/Xbox 360.

Yes, I can easily see Microsoft doing this. Why just control the MMO when you can control the hardware it runs on?

And what's this I hear about the new Xbox, that it has some special camera that monitors the room it is in 24/7 and will include facial recognition software, as well as infrared monitoring so they can monitor your heart rate/bloodflow -which allows them to judge how excited/involved you are with the game? they need to know this so they'll know if you'll pony up for paid content.

Its like George Orwell's nuttiest nightmare. And the new Playstation just as bad.... It'll be interesting to see  how well the public ponies up for these machines.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/05/28/germany_privacy_chief_peter_schaar_calls_xbox_one_a_twisted_nightmare_for.html

[Taceus Jiwede]

And what's this I hear about the new Xbox, that it has some special camera that monitors the room it is in 24/7 and will include facial recognition software, as well as infrared monitoring so they can monitor your heart rate/bloodflow -which allows them to judge how excited/involved you are with the game? they need to know this so they'll know if you'll pony up for paid content.

I've heard this as well.  Which to be honest I don't mind people finding ad's I would be interested in (which is what they claim its for) but I don't like the idea of just inviting Microsoft into my house to listen to everything I say and do.  Hopefully there is a way to make it so that isn't active.  However, if the camera is always on and filming then that means I need to wear silly costumes or just no clothes at all for the new system.  If they wanna watch me all the time, then by god they will get a show!

not only that, there is a clear line we must draw, we are computer gamers, we are an entirely different crowd than console gamers, trust me when I say this, you don't want that crowd influencing the next stages of CoH

Don't even start this subjective battle lol.  I am not a PC gamer, I am a gamer.  Plain and simple.  I love the consoles and I like computers too, I have been playing games my whole life on every and any system including computers.  And there is nothing wrong with console games they just don't suite your personality.  The idea that "console" gamers are a different breed or somehow ruin gaming its just not true especially when almost every game made these days isn't console specific it is just a game that can be played on many different systems.  Publisher's ruin games, not gamer's. One day though, Steam will change this all when they gap the bridge. 

Now of course I am not saying you should like consoles or that you are wrong for not liking consoles.  Either you like them, or you don't.  But to objectively say that console games/gamers just aren't at the same level of quality, or dare I say, purity of a computer game/gamer's I just very strongly disagree with that, it is a matter of personal taste.  I know you didn't say this, and you were just saying you don't want CoH to be influenced by console gamers.  But it does imply that a computer game, CoH, could only be made worse by console players.  I agree CoH would not be better off if made to suit a console, any MMO made for consoles have been generally pretty limited.  But it is not because of the players, it is because of the way the console works and with the exceptions of MMO's the are pretty much the same thing in terms of gaming, most games are actually designed for both.

OP:  Hope to hear good news back from Google.  Thanks again for writing the pitch and setting this up VV and Team wildcard.