News?

[Tanglefoe]

Just now in game on the help channel someone named DJ Kitty said that they were told by Tunnelrat last night that the devs have made progress in negociations with NCSoft.  No details at all.  Did anybody else see this or see or hear what was said last night?

[Soundtrack]

Just now in game on the help channel someone named DJ Kitty said that they were told by Tunnelrat last night that the devs have made progress in negociations with NCSoft.  No details at all.  Did anybody else see this or see or hear what was said last night?

I wish I would have read this earlier...I just teamed with a DJ Kitty this morning.

[DrakeGrimm]

This is the first I've heard of any such thing. It would be welcome news, but until we get some kind of confirmation from somewhere, exercise caution.

Keep it up guys! I have never been more proud of our community than these past couple weeks. We are mighty. We are titans. We are heroes. This is what we do.

[Ampithere]

Someone mentioned it on Facebook. No screenshot though. It could also theoretically be the same person I suppose or DJ Kitty could have seen it on Facebook. But I'm optimistic that it's true.

[The-Hunter-JLJ]

There was a HUGE buzz in the game last night at some point about a dev saying something positive. Chatter on multiple global channels I belong to, but all I ever saw was lots of people trying to confirm what had been said a few minutes before in Virtue AP33. Something was said that got people excited, that's for sure.

[TimtheEnchanter]

Whohoah... what?

[TheFlea]

Right now any news is good news.

To have a buzz like that could either be positive or devastating, depending on whether there is evidence supporting it or not. And we have to be careful about things like like. If people's hopes rise and fall like this then the effect will be devastating on our morale as a whole.

[Teege]

I was in AP1 when Tunnel Rat popped in quickly to say hi. Unfortunately I do not recall her saying anything relating to "they've made progress with NCsoft" and that could be because I was working on a project *shifty eyes* and missed the announcement. However, I'm cynical so I'm hoping "DJ Kitty" can provide citation or proof.

[TimtheEnchanter]

I was in AP1 when Tunnel Rat popped in quickly to say hi. Unfortunately I do not recall her saying anything relating to "they've made progress with NCsoft" and that could be because I was working on a project *shifty eyes* and missed the announcement. However, I'm cynical so I'm hoping "DJ Kitty" can provide citation or proof.

Sadly, I was out of game and testing demo edits for the same reason, so I missed this entirely.

Anyone know what time this supposedly happened?

There was a "Unity Rally" costume contest in Pocket D last night, and then there was a dance party in the AP33 atrium afterward.

I guess DJ Kitty isn't connected to the Cape though? Or at least, they don't have anyone who goes by that name AFAIK.

Either way I'm pretty sure there were Capt DJ's online last night until the early hours of the morning. You'd think somebody on the air would've mentioned it but I don't remember hearing anything.

There had troll issues yesterday evening too, so do we know for sure this message even came over the admin channel? Or it was it some douche who came up with a convincing name for their character and managed to fool one or two people, who then picked it up and ran with it?

[The-Hunter-JLJ]

Tim, the big buzz I heard was after I had been hearing about griefers for a couple of hours, and I know I had read a post here asking for help in contact a dev or GM before this all started. I was chatting with a friend, reading forums, and keeping 5 COH clients happy and running the whole time, so not too surprised I missed the initial discussion.

I didn't pay a lot of attention at first, when reports started going out that someone with dev powers had showed up to run off the trolls and spawn some GMs and the usual fun. When I started paying attention, it seemed as if someone had passed along a report similar to what DJ Kitty is alleged to have told people, and everyone was asking for more information. It may well be that Tunnelrat or whoever popped in made some offhand comment that was misinterpreted. I'd guess if there IS some positive movement Zwill will say something soon.

[TimtheEnchanter]

It's certainly interesting timing either way though because this was "Phase 2" of the unity rally. The last time we got a lot of chatter from the devs was during the previous one. So if there was going to be more news, last night would've been the right time for it.

[emu265]

Tim, the big buzz I heard was after I had been hearing about griefers for a couple of hours, and I know I had read a post here asking for help in contact a dev or GM before this all started. I was chatting with a friend, reading forums, and keeping 5 COH clients happy and running the whole time, so not too surprised I missed the initial discussion.

I didn't pay a lot of attention at first, when reports started going out that someone with dev powers had showed up to run off the trolls and spawn some GMs and the usual fun. When I started paying attention, it seemed as if someone had passed along a report similar to what DJ Kitty is alleged to have told people, and everyone was asking for more information. It may well be that Tunnelrat or whoever popped in made some offhand comment that was misinterpreted. I'd guess if there IS some positive movement Zwill will say something soon.

I wouldn't read too much into it.  If there is news that Zwill or any other dev is allowed to release, they will do so.  If they aren't formally announcing news, it's either conjecture on their part or misinterpretation on ours.  Subtle signs of support, like the re-opening of AP33 on Virtue or comments by Tunnel Rat, are nice but don't say much that we don't already know (that we have the Devs' support).   

[TimtheEnchanter]

Or perhaps all Tunnel Rat said was that they are STILL in talks with NC, and someone interpreted that as meaning there'd been progress. Although, to me that sort of IS progress. But maybe that's just me, thinking with the mind of someone who has always been at the bottom of the eco/political foodchain. If they don't throw you out of the building, that's progress. 

Or to quote Matrix Reloaded:

Neo: Well, that didn't go so well.
Morpheus: Are you Certain the Oracle didn't say anything else?
Neo: Yes.
Trinity: Maybe we did something wrong.
Neo: Or didn't do something.
Morpheus: No, what happened, happened and couldn't have happened any other way.
Neo: How do you know?
Morpheus: We are still alive.

[emu265]

Or perhaps all Tunnel Rat said was that they are STILL in talks with NC, and someone interpreted that as meaning there'd been progress. Although, to me that sort of IS progress. But maybe that's just me, thinking with the mind of someone who has always been at the bottom of the eco/political foodchain. If they don't throw you out of the building, that's progress. 

Or to quote Matrix Reloaded:

Neo: Well, that didn't go so well.
Morpheus: Are you Certain the Oracle didn't say anything else?
Neo: Yes.
Trinity: Maybe we did something wrong.
Neo: Or didn't do something.
Morpheus: No, what happened, happened and couldn't have happened any other way.
Neo: How do you know?
Morpheus: We are still alive.

Considering the initial announcement was tantamount to throwing us out of the building, the fact that they've let us back in to talk is great news.  IF discussions are still underway, I think it's a good thing.   

[The-Hunter-JLJ]

That's how I take it, too. I don't really expect to hear anything other than the vague "they're still talking" sort of messages. As someone already said elsewhere, anyone who really knows anything isn't allowed to talk. In an odd sort of way I find the continued silence encouraging.

[epawtows]

The fact that there are negotiations happening AT ALL is a positive sign. Right now we have to wait and let things take their course. Meanwhile, we need to keep doing what we're doing. Spread the word, make noise, make it impossible for them to let this die quietly.

But, if we do nothing else, we should remember why we fight. For those of you who haven't recently, get back in there and play. There are Freaks to beat and Nemesis plots to untangle, sappers must still be a primary target and we can always Go. Hunt. Kill, Skuls...

We're not dead yet. And, since we seem to have a bit of time on our hands, let's play!

Who's with me?

Since the Paragon Devs, at least, have shown themselves to be so nice to us, I feel fairly confident that if nothing positive was happening, they'd tell us.  Now, this doesn't mean NCSoft isn't jerking THEM around, but it is grounds for some optimisim.

[Horror-Frost]

http://mecha-eng.com/308/

Independent econ review of what's going on.

[Victoria Victrix]

I really hate the weekend, because absolutely nothing, with regards to the NCSoft side, is going to get done. 

[dwturducken]

While Seattle is two hours behind us, it's worth pointing out that Seoul is 14 hours ahead.  It's Monday afternoon, there.

If anything comes from our direct emails, and anyone is in a position to say anything, it won't be long tomorrow before something gets out.

[Osborn]

http://mecha-eng.com/308/

Independent econ review of what's going on.

This pretty much mirrors my sentiment on the whole thing, it's good to see somebody with fancy pants and a top hat and monocle say it though.