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Re: And the mask comes off.
« Reply #4740 on: January 18, 2015, 06:15:31 AM »
That is why i do not look at the mechanics of the game and just tromp along like a happy idiot. That probably wont work for every one though and CO did Power armor and Guns -very- well at least to me (who could never manage to make a good PA Character in CoX but who will be trying to if/when it comes back....if i can get some of the cool mecha parts. Err sorry ranting !).
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Re: And the mask comes off.
« Reply #4741 on: January 18, 2015, 02:51:01 PM »
That is why i do not look at the mechanics of the game and just tromp along like a happy idiot. That probably wont work for every one though and CO did Power armor and Guns -very- well at least to me (who could never manage to make a good PA Character in CoX but who will be trying to if/when it comes back....if i can get some of the cool mecha parts. Err sorry ranting !).

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Re: And the mask comes off.
« Reply #4742 on: January 18, 2015, 06:18:58 PM »
I liked listening to all the specifics on certain builds, powers, etc.  However, I pretty much went my own way too for certain things depending on my own play style.

I did notice when certain things were squishy or strong (i.e., MM ninjas being very squishy, but good at single target attacks).  But, I still tried to enjoy the various facets of the game.  though I didn't so much get into the warshade/peacemaker, nor the arachnos archetypes.  I tried them out though, but not for me.  I didn't do too many of the tanks either, but I did play them.

I'm sure when we get back into game and even "when" the CoX 1.5 option comes around, there will be plenty of info out there along with testers of various things.  I'm just eager to get back to heroing or villainry at this point. 

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Re: And the mask comes off.
« Reply #4743 on: January 18, 2015, 07:16:03 PM »
That is why i do not look at the mechanics of the game and just tromp along like a happy idiot. That probably wont work for every one though and CO did Power armor and Guns -very- well at least to me (who could never manage to make a good PA Character in CoX but who will be trying to if/when it comes back....if i can get some of the cool mecha parts. Err sorry ranting !).

Don't feel bad, I try to do that myself when I first start playing an MMO.  You're never happier than when you don't know what you don't know.  But at least for me, that's not a situation that can last for long.

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Re: And the mask comes off.
« Reply #4744 on: January 19, 2015, 12:37:40 AM »
I liked listening to all the specifics on certain builds, powers, etc.  However, I pretty much went my own way too for certain things depending on my own play style.

I did notice when certain things were squishy or strong (i.e., MM ninjas being very squishy, but good at single target attacks).  But, I still tried to enjoy the various facets of the game.  though I didn't so much get into the warshade/peacemaker, nor the arachnos archetypes.  I tried them out though, but not for me.  I didn't do too many of the tanks either, but I did play them.

I'm sure when we get back into game and even "when" the CoX 1.5 option comes around, there will be plenty of info out there along with testers of various things.  I'm just eager to get back to heroing or villainry at this point.

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Re: And the mask comes off.
« Reply #4745 on: January 21, 2015, 06:08:21 PM »
Thugs/devices was probably the most broken mastermind combo I messed around with.

Put both of the defense aura enhancements on the enforcers, got the accuracy/defense alpha, with force field and scorpion shield, neither I, or my minions could be touched, and that goes double for when I had poison gas, caltraps with the knockdown proc, and trip mines/acid motars.


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« Reply #4746 on: January 22, 2015, 07:44:57 PM »
I remember a SG mate mention in chat that he finally worked out. Build for one character, but it'd take him a while to earn enough to get all the IOs he needed.  People started piping in with "What did you need, I'll see what I got". "I have some of those crafted, I'll drop them in the bins". "I got the salvage to craft those I'll mail them to you".  He got almost all he needed from people in the SG

That is one of the biggest things I miss about CoH, that kind of community.  I have yet to join any group in another game that was willing to just help out other members, just because they could.

That's how it was for me when I was playing... I had a group of friends (we had our own SGs--I think between us all, we were running around 4 or 5 SGs) that would just hop on Skype and say "Hey, I need _____ does anyone happen to have it?" Most of the time, someone would, and we'd just pass stuff around amongst ourselves.

I think the most inf I ever put down on any char I played was my main character (my Warshade)... I spent about 2 or 3 billion to get him where I wanted him, but that includes around 30 or 40 respecs--and all three builds were full of IOs on him. He had a human-only build, a dual form build, and a tri-form build, and all of them were fully spec'd.
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Re: And the mask comes off.
« Reply #4747 on: January 23, 2015, 12:19:08 AM »
That's how it was for me when I was playing... I had a group of friends (we had our own SGs--I think between us all, we were running around 4 or 5 SGs) that would just hop on Skype and say "Hey, I need _____ does anyone happen to have it?" Most of the time, someone would, and we'd just pass stuff around amongst ourselves.

I think the most inf I ever put down on any char I played was my main character (my Warshade)... I spent about 2 or 3 billion to get him where I wanted him, but that includes around 30 or 40 respecs--and all three builds were full of IOs on him. He had a human-only build, a dual form build, and a tri-form build, and all of them were fully spec'd.

Shut the front door. You pulled three purpled out builds with only two bill?

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Re: And the mask comes off.
« Reply #4748 on: January 23, 2015, 12:44:13 AM »
Shut the front door. You pulled three purpled out builds with only two bill?

The only purple explicitly mentioned in the post was the Warshade itself :P And even if it is all purples, it doesn't have to be good purples.
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Re: And the mask comes off.
« Reply #4749 on: January 23, 2015, 01:14:23 AM »
And getting IOs with tickets, reward merits, and alignment merits meant the only money spent was on crafting & maybe buying salvage.
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Re: And the mask comes off.
« Reply #4750 on: January 23, 2015, 01:22:56 AM »
The only purple explicitly mentioned in the post was the Warshade itself :P And even if it is all purples, it doesn't have to be good purples.

I've seen his builds on the forums, they are pretty much purpled out.

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Re: And the mask comes off.
« Reply #4751 on: January 23, 2015, 01:27:43 AM »
The only purple explicitly mentioned in the post was the Warshade itself :P And even if it is all purples, it doesn't have to be good purples.

Players that did not build with high-end enhancements may not realize that there was a wide range of prices for different purple IOs at different times.  For example many control purples at different times could be had for 5 million-ish.  A lot of inf, but not billions-and-billions a lot.  And they got even cheaper after the merit system came out.  Towards the end, you could have made many purple-set builds for hundreds of millions, rather than billions of inf.

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Re: And the mask comes off.
« Reply #4752 on: January 23, 2015, 03:37:14 AM »
Players that did not build with high-end enhancements may not realize that there was a wide range of prices for different purple IOs at different times.  For example many control purples at different times could be had for 5 million-ish.  A lot of inf, but not billions-and-billions a lot.  And they got even cheaper after the merit system came out.  Towards the end, you could have made many purple-set builds for hundreds of millions, rather than billions of inf.

I never saw any builds on the forums that required purple sets.  For the most part, purples were used for their procs and that's about it.

Reminds me of one ITF where the tanker bragged about all his purple enhancements, then proceeded to die about 3 times more than anyone else on the team.  :)

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Re: And the mask comes off.
« Reply #4753 on: January 23, 2015, 03:51:49 AM »
I never saw any builds on the forums that required purple sets.  For the most part, purples were used for their procs and that's about it.

Reminds me of one ITF where the tanker bragged about all his purple enhancements, then proceeded to die about 3 times more than anyone else on the team.  :)

Purples could be an important part of builds, but it really depended.  The character I had that saw the most play was my Kat/WP, which was built largely for health and regen with enough recharge to maintain my attack chain and a smattering of extra defense.  Very few purples, and not a very expensive build relatively speaking.  My plant/rad and WS on the other hand had a ton of purples because they relied so heavily on a lot of recharge.

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Re: And the mask comes off.
« Reply #4754 on: January 23, 2015, 04:33:17 AM »
I got along without many purples, I didn't really add any until the last few months of the game.

I hope I will get to rectify that situation when the game is reinstated.
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Re: And the mask comes off.
« Reply #4755 on: January 23, 2015, 05:22:42 AM »
Very few of my builds had many purples...and every build I have done for the relaunch has been devoid of purple and pvp IOs. To me the only good bonuses from purples were usually the 10% recharge, but I never really needed those. The procs could be nice on certain powers, but again not a necessity. I doubt I will use many purples when the game returns...but I do look forward to getting lots of pvp +3% Defense IOs again :)

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Re: And the mask comes off.
« Reply #4756 on: January 23, 2015, 05:37:47 AM »
My claws/regen scrapper was built for maximum recharge. She had a ton of purples in her build. She was the only character I ever IO'd out enthusiastically. And even then I stalled out at about 80% complete...she had empty holes and SOs in the rest of her slots, and no one was the wiser. lol

A few of my other characters had a few pieces here and there, but by and large, most of them actually used SOs or generics. (Heck: my main, Aggelakis, an emp/arch defender, was full of HOs from before the Hami revamp.)
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Re: And the mask comes off.
« Reply #4757 on: January 23, 2015, 07:45:56 AM »
My fortunata was my only character with purple IO's everywhere, needing the recharge to make farsight permanent.  I had little regrets.  But I also had an extreme-recharge kineticist who didn't have purple recipes, because I was already triple-stacking fulcrum shift on her.
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Re: And the mask comes off.
« Reply #4758 on: January 23, 2015, 12:09:36 PM »
Players that did not build with high-end enhancements may not realize that there was a wide range of prices for different purple IOs at different times.  For example many control purples at different times could be had for 5 million-ish.  A lot of inf, but not billions-and-billions a lot.  And they got even cheaper after the merit system came out.  Towards the end, you could have made many purple-set builds for hundreds of millions, rather than billions of inf.
I managed to purchase a coupe of complete purple sets for less than 1 mill Inf once. I think it was a fluke of un-nature or something that allowed me to manage it. That and they were the less wanted sets. Immobilize and Slow, I think.
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Re: And the mask comes off.
« Reply #4759 on: January 23, 2015, 02:01:56 PM »
I frankenslotted everything.

I had mixtures of various IO's, procs and bonuses to get what I wanted. In most cases full sets were not the best case. Often I would have 3 of one type and 3 of another to get the bonus I wanted.

On my sonic/ice blaster I had a number of people ask for my build after seeing her in action. Tanking the ITF on a blaster was fun :)