Doctor Who season... 11?

Started by Tenzhi, October 10, 2018, 06:04:23 AM

Tenzhi

I gotta admit - so far I'm liking the new Doctor.  There was a speech about changing/evolving in the first episode that was a bit on the nose, and I'm not sold on the menagerie of companions, but the Doctor seems pretty good so far.  Should've kept the mad scientist goggles from the Sonic construction for the final outfit, though.
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MyriVerse

The plot of the first episode was a bit... simple. But simple isn't bad for an intro. The companions are kinda cardboard at this point. I think they killed the wrong one. Where's the TARDIS? I hope they find it soon. However, I'm totally on board for this new Doctor. Maybe Tom Baker was right and the role is actor-proof. Whittaker is certainly handling the role well so far.

I do have one question: she survived the fall from the TARDIS, how? Resilient lady. Shouldn't that fall have brought another regen? Okay. Two questions. It's kinda the same question though.
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Tenzhi

She was still regenerating.  It's like being Deadpool without the cancer.
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doc7924

Quote from: MyriVerse on October 10, 2018, 01:42:23 PM
The plot of the first episode was a bit... simple. But simple isn't bad for an intro. The companions are kinda cardboard at this point. I think they killed the wrong one. Where's the TARDIS? I hope they find it soon. However, I'm totally on board for this new Doctor. Maybe Tom Baker was right and the role is actor-proof. Whittaker is certainly handling the role well so far.

I do have one question: she survived the fall from the TARDIS, how? Resilient lady. Shouldn't that fall have brought another regen? Okay. Two questions. It's kinda the same question though.

Ah that's easy - the steel metal roof broker her fall.


HalcyonS

I admit I like it a lot so far, but I've also really enjoyed Whittaker since seeing her in "Attack the Block". And I agree with Tenzhi and was hoping she'd keep the goggles.

MyriVerse

Quote from: doc7924 on October 11, 2018, 05:30:48 PM
Ah that's easy - the steel metal roof broker her fall.
Cool. Doc is Supergirl now... more powerful than a locomotive... roof.

/sarcasm
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Tenzhi

I officially don't like Ryan, even though the Call of Duty bit was amusing.

And I didn't care for the new TARDIS interior.  I might not mind it if it was brighter.  Maybe paint the strange roundish wall lattice white, and then light the crystals with blue or a cool green instead of that sickly honey colour.  But at least it has a biscuit button, which is almost as good as a muffin button.
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doc7924

Quote from: Tenzhi on October 15, 2018, 09:54:35 AM
I officially don't like Ryan, even though the Call of Duty bit was amusing.

And I didn't care for the new TARDIS interior.  I might not mind it if it was brighter.  Maybe paint the strange roundish wall lattice white, and then light the crystals with blue or a cool green instead of that sickly honey colour.  But at least it has a biscuit button, which is almost as good as a muffin button.


It was better when the doors opened right into the console room. Had the illusion of the inside being bigger then the outside.

Now it looks like they walk through the box like a hallway into another space.

MyriVerse

#8
I always prefer the inside brighter like it was for Pertwee and the 80s, but I dig the new design.

All of the companions are still leaving me cold. I hope this improves.

The plots are still meh, but passable.

But I love 13!

And love the new opening.
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doc7924

Quote from: MyriVerse on October 15, 2018, 03:53:20 PM
I always prefer the inside brighter like it was for Pertwee and the 80s, but I dig the new design.

All of the companions are still leaving me cold. I hope this improves.

The plots are still meh, but passable.

But I love 13!

And love the new opening.

Yeah - my little niggle about the new TARDIS set aside - I think she is great.

Didn't bother me in the first place they cast a woman, and it still doesn't.

I like the opening and music - a nice callback to the older days with simple titles.

Tenzhi

Don't know how I feel about episode 3 overall.  It was kinda boring.  Had a couple of good character moments.  Ryan was still annoying.  Yaz was bland.  But Graham was pretty good.  The villain was throwaway and ultimately got thrown away.  For a moment it seemed like he could be important - and maybe he will be later.
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MyriVerse

On another board, it was postulated that they got rid of the villain in possibly the worst way possible. Sending him further back in time will only lead to bigger and worse time screw ups. Maybe he'll return. I sure hope the writers don't think that was a good ending for him.

Yaz is still bland, but likable, I guess. Ryan got better, imo, as did Graham.

I think the plot got kind of cheesy with the politics at times, especially that ending.
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Tenzhi

This episode with the spiders was terrible.  It built up a fair enough premise, but failed to deliver a satisfying conclusion.  And the Evil American Businessman who loves guns was cartoonishly bad, and will likely be elected in 2020.

Graham had some good character moments.  Yaz managed to continue to avoid developing any character.  And Ryan continues to be annoying, punctuating it with music this time.
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MyriVerse

Still nothing close to a good villain in this season.

13 continues to be the only really good thing about the episodes.

Spoiler for Hidden:
Frankly, I think masses of smaller spiders are creepier than giant ones. These just didn't impress me very much. And I sort of agreed with the semi-antagonist (Trump-lite) guy in the end-- it was a mercy killing, and TeamTARDIS should have been trying to kill the spiders. They were a threat to everything, everywhere, and their existence was an unnatural man-made thing.

I sort of think one of the companions should have died in this episode. My vote would have been for Ryan.
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HalcyonS

Spoiler for Hidden:

The problem is while you could say it was a mercy killing his intention CLEARLY wasn't as one, so I can understand the Doctor's anger.

doc7924

Quote from: HalcyonS on November 01, 2018, 01:57:16 AM
Spoiler for Hidden:

The problem is while you could say it was a mercy killing his intention CLEARLY wasn't as one, so I can understand the Doctor's anger.

Would it had made any difference if that was his intention?

Either way I think she would have been angry with him - which in hindsight what he did probably was the best thing to do in that case.

MyriVerse

Spoiler for Hidden:
I cannot accept the Doctor's entire premise regarding these horrible creatures. IMO, if animals are ever a threat to people, they need to die ASAP. Screw conservation. But these spiders were truly unnatural abominations created by man and a danger to the ecosystem.

Kill them all with as much fire as you can possibly use without destroying much property.

I'm a big Liberal and this guy might get my vote in 2020. TBH, he came across as more of an Alec Baldwin (the anti-Trump) than Trump.
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Quote from: doc7924 on November 01, 2018, 01:54:13 PM
Would it had made any difference if that was his intention?

Either way I think she would have been angry with him - which in hindsight what he did probably was the best thing to do in that case.

Yeah, I think it would have made a difference. She wouldn't have been happy but I don't think she would have been as angry.

Tenzhi

Maybe the new Doctor doesn't need a rational reason to be angry.
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Tenzhi

And this week's baddie seems to be brought to us from the Lilo and Stitch cartoon series.

The B story pregnancy's purpose seemed to be to keep the guys out of the action.  It might've had the secondary purpose of saying "ooo... look at all of this role reversal we've got going on."

All in all I'd say the episode was inoffensively mediocre.
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