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Doctor Who season... 11?
« on: October 10, 2018, 06:04:23 AM »
I gotta admit - so far I'm liking the new Doctor.  There was a speech about changing/evolving in the first episode that was a bit on the nose, and I'm not sold on the menagerie of companions, but the Doctor seems pretty good so far.  Should've kept the mad scientist goggles from the Sonic construction for the final outfit, though.
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Re: Doctor Who season... 11?
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2018, 01:42:23 PM »
The plot of the first episode was a bit... simple. But simple isn't bad for an intro. The companions are kinda cardboard at this point. I think they killed the wrong one. Where's the TARDIS? I hope they find it soon. However, I'm totally on board for this new Doctor. Maybe Tom Baker was right and the role is actor-proof. Whittaker is certainly handling the role well so far.

I do have one question: she survived the fall from the TARDIS, how? Resilient lady. Shouldn't that fall have brought another regen? Okay. Two questions. It's kinda the same question though.
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Re: Doctor Who season... 11?
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2018, 09:48:07 PM »
She was still regenerating.  It's like being Deadpool without the cancer.
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2018, 05:30:48 PM »
The plot of the first episode was a bit... simple. But simple isn't bad for an intro. The companions are kinda cardboard at this point. I think they killed the wrong one. Where's the TARDIS? I hope they find it soon. However, I'm totally on board for this new Doctor. Maybe Tom Baker was right and the role is actor-proof. Whittaker is certainly handling the role well so far.

I do have one question: she survived the fall from the TARDIS, how? Resilient lady. Shouldn't that fall have brought another regen? Okay. Two questions. It's kinda the same question though.

Ah that's easy - the steel metal roof broker her fall.


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Re: Doctor Who season... 11?
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2018, 02:25:47 AM »
I admit I like it a lot so far, but I've also really enjoyed Whittaker since seeing her in "Attack the Block". And I agree with Tenzhi and was hoping she'd keep the goggles.

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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2018, 11:21:10 AM »
Ah that's easy - the steel metal roof broker her fall.
Cool. Doc is Supergirl now... more powerful than a locomotive... roof.

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Re: Doctor Who season... 11?
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2018, 09:54:35 AM »
I officially don't like Ryan, even though the Call of Duty bit was amusing.

And I didn't care for the new TARDIS interior.  I might not mind it if it was brighter.  Maybe paint the strange roundish wall lattice white, and then light the crystals with blue or a cool green instead of that sickly honey colour.  But at least it has a biscuit button, which is almost as good as a muffin button.
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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2018, 02:00:32 PM »
I officially don't like Ryan, even though the Call of Duty bit was amusing.

And I didn't care for the new TARDIS interior.  I might not mind it if it was brighter.  Maybe paint the strange roundish wall lattice white, and then light the crystals with blue or a cool green instead of that sickly honey colour.  But at least it has a biscuit button, which is almost as good as a muffin button.


It was better when the doors opened right into the console room. Had the illusion of the inside being bigger then the outside.

Now it looks like they walk through the box like a hallway into another space.

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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2018, 03:53:20 PM »
I always prefer the inside brighter like it was for Pertwee and the 80s, but I dig the new design.

All of the companions are still leaving me cold. I hope this improves.

The plots are still meh, but passable.

But I love 13!

And love the new opening.
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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2018, 01:50:16 AM »
I always prefer the inside brighter like it was for Pertwee and the 80s, but I dig the new design.

All of the companions are still leaving me cold. I hope this improves.

The plots are still meh, but passable.

But I love 13!

And love the new opening.

Yeah - my little niggle about the new TARDIS set aside - I think she is great.

Didn't bother me in the first place they cast a woman, and it still doesn't.

I like the opening and music - a nice callback to the older days with simple titles.

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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2018, 09:42:50 AM »
Don't know how I feel about episode 3 overall.  It was kinda boring.  Had a couple of good character moments.  Ryan was still annoying.  Yaz was bland.  But Graham was pretty good.  The villain was throwaway and ultimately got thrown away.  For a moment it seemed like he could be important - and maybe he will be later.
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« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2018, 12:40:22 PM »
On another board, it was postulated that they got rid of the villain in possibly the worst way possible. Sending him further back in time will only lead to bigger and worse time screw ups. Maybe he'll return. I sure hope the writers don't think that was a good ending for him.

Yaz is still bland, but likable, I guess. Ryan got better, imo, as did Graham.

I think the plot got kind of cheesy with the politics at times, especially that ending.
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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2018, 01:00:16 PM »
This episode with the spiders was terrible.  It built up a fair enough premise, but failed to deliver a satisfying conclusion.  And the Evil American Businessman who loves guns was cartoonishly bad, and will likely be elected in 2020.

Graham had some good character moments.  Yaz managed to continue to avoid developing any character.  And Ryan continues to be annoying, punctuating it with music this time.
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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2018, 02:38:47 PM »
Still nothing close to a good villain in this season.

13 continues to be the only really good thing about the episodes.

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Frankly, I think masses of smaller spiders are creepier than giant ones. These just didn't impress me very much. And I sort of agreed with the semi-antagonist (Trump-lite) guy in the end-- it was a mercy killing, and TeamTARDIS should have been trying to kill the spiders. They were a threat to everything, everywhere, and their existence was an unnatural man-made thing.

I sort of think one of the companions should have died in this episode. My vote would have been for Ryan.
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Re: Doctor Who season... 11?
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2018, 01:57:16 AM »
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The problem is while you could say it was a mercy killing his intention CLEARLY wasn't as one, so I can understand the Doctor's anger.

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« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2018, 01:54:13 PM »
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The problem is while you could say it was a mercy killing his intention CLEARLY wasn't as one, so I can understand the Doctor's anger.

Would it had made any difference if that was his intention?

Either way I think she would have been angry with him - which in hindsight what he did probably was the best thing to do in that case.

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« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2018, 02:10:57 PM »
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I cannot accept the Doctor's entire premise regarding these horrible creatures. IMO, if animals are ever a threat to people, they need to die ASAP. Screw conservation. But these spiders were truly unnatural abominations created by man and a danger to the ecosystem.

Kill them all with as much fire as you can possibly use without destroying much property.

I'm a big Liberal and this guy might get my vote in 2020. TBH, he came across as more of an Alec Baldwin (the anti-Trump) than Trump.
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« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2018, 02:41:22 AM »
Would it had made any difference if that was his intention?

Either way I think she would have been angry with him - which in hindsight what he did probably was the best thing to do in that case.

Yeah, I think it would have made a difference. She wouldn't have been happy but I don't think she would have been as angry.

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« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2018, 04:41:02 AM »
Maybe the new Doctor doesn't need a rational reason to be angry.
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« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2018, 04:28:53 PM »
And this week's baddie seems to be brought to us from the Lilo and Stitch cartoon series.

The B story pregnancy's purpose seemed to be to keep the guys out of the action.  It might've had the secondary purpose of saying "ooo... look at all of this role reversal we've got going on."

All in all I'd say the episode was inoffensively mediocre.
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« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2018, 04:48:03 PM »
At this point, I'm just getting kind of fed up with the lack of good villains and Ryan.

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This episode ended with TeamTARDIS without a TARDIS. I hope that's addressed next ep.
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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2018, 04:08:51 AM »
All in all I'd say the episode was inoffensively mediocre.

Yeah, I have to agree with you there.

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« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2018, 01:32:35 PM »
Well, that was basically just a flashback.  Witnessing events without really interfering or changing anything.  Pointless alien presence, too.
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« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2018, 12:36:08 PM »
The Kerblam episode was pretty good, actually.  The bad guy fakeout was predictable.  Ryan was verging on likable.  The Doctor saved the day.

Looking forward to Alan Cumming's appearance in next week's episode.  Although for some reason when I saw the preview I thought it was an oddly young Eric Idle.
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« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2018, 05:32:00 PM »
The entire time I was hoping they wouldn't fake out like that, but on the other hand, I like it when machines aren't the bad guys. Agreed, pretty good episode.
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« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2018, 09:40:45 PM »
Very creepy Witch episode. It felt the most like a classic Doctor ep to me. But it lost something around the end. Cummings was awesome as King James! Even Ryan was pretty good this ep.
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« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2018, 02:57:49 PM »
King James chewed the scenery yea verily.  I was enjoying the episode right up until the main baddy revealed itself as Rita Repulsa cosplaying a muddy entwife.
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« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2018, 10:08:51 AM »
Wow, that episode felt like it was written by Madeleine L'Engle.
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« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2018, 12:24:27 PM »
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Didn't care for the whole "let's be friends" thing at the end. Again, we're cheated out of a real villain. Ryan was okay again.

I don't really understand how, at the beginning, the Doctor is out in the forest and still doesn't know where/when they are. This is usually info the TARDIS displays. She should know this before they even open the door, and it seems really stupid to open the door without knowing this.
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« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2018, 01:27:25 PM »
And just in case it didn't seem stupid, let's eat some dirt just to make sure it is.
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« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2018, 12:31:54 PM »
IMO, that was the best of the season, with eps 2-9 as nothing but filler.

Not even sure I'm looking forward to the New Years ep.

Okay, who am I fooling? Of course I am. But only because I'm a nerd.

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Tzim Sha was really the only good villain the whole season. The Doctor needs to get over this sillystupid "no kill" nonsense. Graham was awesome... until flaking out at the end. Ryan was actually pretty good. Yaz may as well not exist.
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« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2018, 04:54:33 PM »
It was alright.  The plot was a bit of a rehash of The Pirate Planet, only not as good.  I was disappointed to see Tim Shaw.  He had been pretty satisfyingly wrapped up already.  I think the space racist would've been a better villain to return for a more fitting comeuppance. 

New Year's is just not an interesting holiday for specials.
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« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2018, 05:46:10 PM »
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Tzim Sha wasn't dealt with after ep1, either, just sent away like Krasko, the racist guy. And frankly, I still don't think Tzim Sha was dealt with, just imprisoned. Tzim was a much cooler villain, imo, plus has a huge emotional connection to the team. If this is truly a "Fam," then Tzim is absolutely the archnemesis.

The racist guy was really a nothing. They didn't even properly sell any of his motivations. Yes, he potentially could be something, but as it stands, nothing he did amounted to anything at all. The story was really quite vapid and only served to talk about Rosa Parks, not develop any sort of story.

The Morax weren't effectively dealt with either, just imprisoned to become someone else's eventual burden.

None of the other antagonists truly qualify as villains.

Yes, but this Doctor is not an interesting thing for a holiday special. :D

If anything, I would say New Year's is TOO interesting of a holiday for a special. Christmas is the boring holiday where people sit home and be bored at the TV. New Year's is where they're too busy having fun to watch TV.
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« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2018, 07:44:03 PM »
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Tzim Sha wasn't dealt with after ep1, either, just sent away like Krasko, the racist guy. And frankly, I still don't think Tzim Sha was dealt with, just imprisoned. Tzim was a much cooler villain, imo, plus has a huge emotional connection to the team. If this is truly a "Fam," then Tzim is absolutely the archnemesis.

The racist guy was really a nothing. They didn't even properly sell any of his motivations. Yes, he potentially could be something, but as it stands, nothing he did amounted to anything at all. The story was really quite vapid and only served to talk about Rosa Parks, not develop any sort of story.

The Morax weren't effectively dealt with either, just imprisoned to become someone else's eventual burden.

None of the other antagonists truly qualify as villains.

Yes, but this Doctor is not an interesting thing for a holiday special. :D

If anything, I would say New Year's is TOO interesting of a holiday for a special. Christmas is the boring holiday where people sit home and be bored at the TV. New Year's is where they're too busy having fun to watch TV.

Maybe the show will seem better watched with a hangover.

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« Reply #34 on: December 10, 2018, 09:05:45 PM »
I meant New Year's wasn't interesting in that it lacks the myths, traditions, and stories that other holidays have.  It's essentially just a poor excuse for idiots to get hammered and cause trouble.  Basically just a weekend (New Week's Eve, woo...) that somebody made a big production out of.
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« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2018, 03:44:29 PM »
I would think New Years would lend itself to the Doctor more than Christmas. At least New Years is time-related. Making the Doctor do something special for Christmas has always seemed a massive shoehorn to me. The only point is to sell a timeslot on TV.
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« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2018, 09:21:28 PM »
Time is more normal for the Doctor... but normal isn't special.
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« Reply #37 on: January 02, 2019, 02:25:50 PM »
Well, the New Year's episode had a Dalek, I guess.  I liked the pre-ending as an ending better than the cheesy power of love ending.
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