New efforts!

[MWRuger]

TheDevilYouKnow, I like your signature.

Thanks! I put it there so that people who are just checking in can see current status. I post a lot so there's a good chance they will see one from me.

[kiario]

I have lately been thinking about what this new team has to offer ncsoft that will shift their desicion this time when the previous attempts have failed.

Is it this particular team composition that has a more positive effect on ncsoft or is it just more money in the pot and marketing ensurance?

[The Fifth Horseman]

He was part of the team that cracked Enigma.

*cough cough cough* I'll try to be as polite as possible, but you did unintentionally punch one of my berserk buttons.
Enigma, kind sir, has not been cracked by the British. Oh, they certainly did independently solve it in 1937.
But it was already broken in 1932. By Polish Cipher Bureau (did I mention I'm damn proud of my country?).
At the time, Ventris was 10 and would not even be drafted into RAF until ten years later. :)

[PSI-on]

Yet another alternative might be to make all previously purchasable packs free for the first, say, 3 months of the restart - then after that, put them back in the store.
Of course, this is all assuming that they would need a cash injection at launch, or wouldn't have the account data available to see who'd purchased what in the past.

CoH had around 100k active accounts at the shutdown, so if they got even 10% of those back fro the restart, selling the game at $25 would still bring in a useful quarter of a million dollars to help keep the momentum going.

I like this idea a bit, also let's not forget that some of the new powersets and costumes we know about now with Icon and I24 were likely to be bought, not free. I know I24 was going to come with two free, but I read once on the wiki that the planned new powerpools like "Sorcery" were to be purchased. If they likely get everything code wise for the game up til and including I24, and decided to give us all powersets and costumes for free (vet and edition things would be a lovely gesture *like Architect or the DVD edition in-game content*) for a bit, they could still make a good start with the inventory slots, character slots, neat little travel powers, and such to keep them floating til they finish the costumes and powers they were going to eventually sell anyway. I imagine it wouldn't be hard to pick those out either since there's hinting former people who worked on the game are part of this and I wouldn't be surprised if you could turn to Posi or BAB and ask them what they were gonna do with it.

Also, if they can't recover our account or character info, can you imagine how many people will buy character slots day one of the return? I think they'll do very well for a start if they go with GG's idea.

[Felderburg]

*cough cough cough* I'll try to be as polite as possible, but you did unintentionally punch one of my berserk buttons.
Enigma, kind sir, has not been cracked by the British. Oh, they certainly did independently solve it in 1937.
But it was already broken in 1932. By Polish Cipher Bureau (did I mention I'm damn proud of my country?).
At the time, Ventris was 10 and would not even be drafted into RAF until ten years later. :)

Well that's very interesting. I don't know that I'd heard anything more about Enigma than "it was cracked and decisively led to allied victory." I had assumed it all happened during WWII. The wikipedia page is interesting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptanalysis_of_the_Enigma#Polish_breakthrough

[MWRuger]

*cough cough cough* I'll try to be as polite as possible, but you did unintentionally punch one of my berserk buttons.
Enigma, kind sir, has not been cracked by the British. Oh, they certainly did independently solve it in 1937.
But it was already broken in 1932. By Polish Cipher Bureau (did I mention I'm damn proud of my country?).
At the time, Ventris was 10 and would not even be drafted into RAF until ten years later. :)

No, I wasn't trying to push any buttons. I merely meant he worked on the British team. Also, if it was done independently then it should still count as a impressive success for the British cryptologists.

It was more about Linear A than Enigma. I am not 100% conversant with the Enigma history so pardon my error. I'll modify the original post.

[PSI-on]

If you want to give up on SCoRE, then that's fine, give up on SCoRE.  Will CoT launch before it's finished?  I don't know, probably.  Will CoH relaunch before it's finished?  Maybe, but even if so, that won't be the end of SCoRE, as the people working on it have expressed to me that they don't want to be caught flat-footed if the game shuts down again in the future.

This darn near brought me to tears again. If we get the game back and pay for it that's fine, but my biggest fear is it being in the hands of ANYONE who could shut it down and take it away again if they wanted/"had" to. Knowing these guys will still work on it so that if that horrible nightmare day ever comes again that we might be able to keep playing inspite of it means everything to me. If you can Tony, please tell them I said thank you. For that and everything else they've done so far.

[Harpospoke]

Ok, If and when we start from scratch, what will everyone be rolling first? I'm going with support because I know about half the population is gonna be scrappers and brutes(easy for me to get on teams). On the other hand, if I24 goes live, we may see a lot of people chasing the snipe/to-hit build. Thoughts?

Definitely a Controller.   

[Harpospoke]

I have another question. How many will be racing to 50? I know I want to get back to incarnates ASAP, that's the part of the game I crave. Only then did I feel really super!

I'll get there as quick as I can.   I have to admit I'm not the best PL'er though...I'll probably finish last in that "race".    ;D

[Palladiamors]

Definitely a Controller.

A mastermind.  And then...a mastermind.  And then another mastermind.  And THEN a gravity controller,  cause I always regretted not leveling one of those.

[Raven]

Depends on the server.  I do want to get back to incarnates asap myself.  I however have another obligation.  I figure there will be alot of newbies trying cox out when it comes back, I'm kind of obliged to make some guides on how to play the game well and not fall into the trap of the holy trinity(also known as, dying the instant you fight anything other than council or the instant you get ambushed).

I just want to level high enough to do the sewer missions and fight Hydra. I was on 5 teams and none of them ever beat Hydra. 

[Mistress Urd]

The obvious inference and insults aside, that is an absolutely true statement.

Don't expect to change other people's minds simply because you think you know more than they do.

As for this effort, I absolutely do hope it works out.

The first character I'll play obviously can't be my favorite (a Warshade) due to the level requirement, so I think I'll opt for a scrapper....close enough. ;)

Dark/Dark scrapper, they feel similar to some warshade builds. Do you plan to make a PB too?

I thought they later removed unlocking to VIP/sub players. (Hard for me to know since I unlocked mine a long time ago so hard to notice changes)

[Harpospoke]

A mastermind.  And then...a mastermind.  And then another mastermind.  And THEN a gravity controller,  cause I always regretted not leveling one of those.

My second toon was a Grav/Emp.   I didn't really like the Emp set either...my brother talked me into it.  Got him to 50 somehow.  Always kinda meant to try Grav/Storm since I heard so many people raving about that combo.

[Fanta]

Dark/Dark scrapper, they feel similar to some warshade builds. Do you plan to make a PB too?

I thought they later removed unlocking to VIP/sub players. (Hard for me to know since I unlocked mine a long time ago so hard to notice changes)

Had perma lightform on my PB. Not worth it IMO. Lots of KB, poor AoE, compared to a WS. Teamed with AlienOne on his, mostly speed ITFs, WS>PB. EASY! I only kept mine because it had the first anniversary badge.

[Felderburg]

Dark/Dark scrapper, they feel similar to some warshade builds. Do you plan to make a PB too?

I thought they later removed unlocking to VIP/sub players. (Hard for me to know since I unlocked mine a long time ago so hard to notice changes)

Per the wiki, it was level 50 for most of the game, then dropped to level 20, then anyone who paid money.

I remember being very satisfied with myself that I had unlocked one by getting to 50 before they announced the drop to level 20. Couldn't say the same for some of the defeat / healing badges though - I felt sort of bad that I got the same Rikti Monkey badge (Zookeeper) for a fraction of what older players did (it was still terrible).

[AlienOne]

Dark/Dark scrapper, they feel similar to some warshade builds. Do you plan to make a PB too?

I thought they later removed unlocking to VIP/sub players. (Hard for me to know since I unlocked mine a long time ago so hard to notice changes)

Absolutely! I had a 50 PB before I had a 50 Warshade (PB was my 2nd toon I ever made after an Elec/Elec Blaster...why do I remember all this stuff? I have no idea). I liked how much better my PB felt after the last Kheldian changes, and I had planned on eventually making a PB guide later on down the road...

I also had a Dark/Dark Scrapper at 50, and he was a load of fun to play... It's definitely similar to the Warshade, but it felt a lot more end heavy and didn't have the advantage of the end recovery from Stygian Circle that the Warshade had. As a result, my "timing" for my attack chain felt a little off when I'd switch to my Dark/Dark after playing the WS.

Still fun to play though!

I had already unlocked my Khelds long ago as well, so I wasn't affected by the level change...although I must admit I was a little disappointed by it. I felt waiting to at least having one level 50 under your belt was a fair price to play the sometimes more complicated Kheld ATs...

[Fanta]

Per the wiki, it was level 50 for most of the game, then dropped to level 20, then anyone who paid money.

I remember being very satisfied with myself that I had unlocked one by getting to 50 before they announced the drop to level 20. Couldn't say the same for some of the defeat / healing badges though - I felt sort of bad that I got the same Rikti Monkey badge (Zookeeper) for a fraction of what older players did (it was still terrible).

I played my first character to 50 so I could unlock them. Took me about six months on my BS/DA, due to debt, back when there really was a price to be paid for poor play. Got my PB to 50 and it sat until I could respec it into perma lightform. It was probably a good thing to lower the quantities on some badges, due to the total number of them added over time.

[Mistress Urd]

My 2nd 50 was a PB, I was rather disappointed due to all of the KB, but the -KB IO allowed me to dust off my PB and use her again.

WS was 10th to 50 when I was on my long term quest to run 1 of each AT to 50. It was a much easier experience mostly due to the V/Q changes. They were just a slightly nastier mob, not a very deadly one. I think my PB died more times to 10 than my tank did ever. WS died a few times on the way to 50, but the experience just kept getting better and better as I leveled. Sidenote: PB was Triform, WS was Human only.

Hardest to 50 at least at the time I did it: Stalker, Dominator and PB. Everyone else was a very fun experience. The change to stalkers was most welcome, no more lolstalkers and being the pity spot only. Post changes the only AT I would have some issue playing to 50 would be a PB. However, even if the servers are not reset, I might run a new one up to 50 and perhaps see if the experience is better on the 2nd run.

[Blackstar5]

Ok, If and when we start from scratch, what will everyone be rolling first? I'm going with support because I know about half the population is gonna be scrappers and brutes(easy for me to get on teams). On the other hand, if I24 goes live, we may see a lot of people chasing the snipe/to-hit build. Thoughts?

A brute, possibly Dark/wp unless I have enough to purchase some power sets then it will probably be Street justice/wp or titan weapon/wp.

[Nitekilla]

Any of you ever tried a Fire / Ice tank ?  I took one to 50 and it was loads of fun.  I remember back in the day when we had the Dreck map.  My friend would use it for Pling with his Fire / Fire tank.  One day he asked if I could take over with my Fire / Ice tank and it was the most fun I have ever had in my gaming years (and I am 47 years old) !  I wish other MMO's could be this fun !