well things got complex.

[Nyx Nought Nothing]

I seen crazier ideas.

And in a legal context they fail. Hard.
i've seen many of those "crazier ideas" and they generally result in sanctions against the person who brought them before a judge. As far as i can tell Joshex's plan requires that whatever judge he presents the case to have even less understanding of how the legal system works than he does. Based on what he's said so far it's unlikely anyone who has actually ever been inside a courtroom knows less, so i wouldn't get my hopes up. i am not a lawyer, but following various legal proceedings has become a hobby of mine. Frankly Joshex's plan sounds like perfect fodder for Lowering the Bar. (This one in particular seems especially relevant.)
i'm willing to support any effort that has a reasonable chance of bringing the game back, but trying to involve yourself in a case that was settled years ago when you have no standing at all is roughly equivalent to claiming you're going to build a bridge across the widest part of the Grand Canyon and drive an APC over it using nothing but a 5 pound bucket of Lego and a small box of paper clips.

Between this, the nebulous plan for game boxes, and the "i can read .dll" that was somehow going to allow him to reverse engineer the game despite the fact that he repeatedly demonstrated that he didn't completely grasp what he was actually looking at...
Yeah, while i find Joshex's plans entertaining in a surreal and whimsical way i won't put much stock in them until they can pass the sniff test. Seriously, i appreciate the wild-eyed enthusiasm of these plans and the manic cleverness invested in them, but i prefer slightly more practical solutions. Living in a magical realist teen adventure world where strength of will and purity of shart can make even the most cracked and absurd dream come true would be nice, but it's not the reality i live in.

[Aggelakis]

purity of shart

Hee hee hee hee hee hee......purity of shart....hurrr hee hee hee...

[dwturducken]

Am I the only one who saw Agge's name and think the thread had been closed? :D

Actually, I'm impressed with all of us. As energetic as the debate here has been, and as widely disparate the opinions have been, it's a testament to this community that it's stayed civil.

[JaguarX]

And in a legal context they fail. Hard.
i've seen many of those "crazier ideas" and they generally result in sanctions against the person who brought them before a judge. As far as i can tell Joshex's plan requires that whatever judge he presents the case to have even less understanding of how the legal system works than he does. Based on what he's said so far it's unlikely anyone who has actually ever been inside a courtroom knows less, so i wouldn't get my hopes up. i am not a lawyer, but following various legal proceedings has become a hobby of mine. Frankly Joshex's plan sounds like perfect fodder for Lowering the Bar. (This one in particular seems especially relevant.)
i'm willing to support any effort that has a reasonable chance of bringing the game back, but trying to involve yourself in a case that was settled years ago when you have no standing at all is roughly equivalent to claiming you're going to build a bridge across the widest part of the Grand Canyon and drive an APC over it using nothing but a 5 pound bucket of Lego and a small box of paper clips.

Between this, the nebulous plan for game boxes, and the "i can read .dll" that was somehow going to allow him to reverse engineer the game despite the fact that he repeatedly demonstrated that he didn't completely grasp what he was actually looking at...
Yeah, while i find Joshex's plans entertaining in a surreal and whimsical way i won't put much stock in them until they can pass the sniff test. Seriously, i appreciate the wild-eyed enthusiasm of these plans and the manic cleverness invested in them, but i prefer slightly more practical solutions. Living in a magical realist teen adventure world where strength of will and purity of shart can make even the most cracked and absurd dream come true would be nice, but it's not the reality i live in.

well I was talking about crazier ideas here on this forum.

Although some crazy ideas did work.

"I got fat, I don't feel like working. Say, I'll sue MCDonalds."

[Floride]

I was kinda hoping someone switched the I24 harddrive out with a different one that was "wiped-honest" and smuggled the real one out to one of the Titan crew.   But I have a feeling that that didn't happen.  That sounds just like a mission you would find in CoH.  Dang I still miss that game.

-Fuegocito [Pinnacle]

It was a radio mission "Recover the P.L.O.T. device", lol.

[Captain Electric]

brb bio

[Aggelakis]

You're just replying so it comes back up to the top and gets more replies and the crazy just continues, Cap'n. :p

[Captain Electric]

No, well, yes but look we're never going to get this thing off the ground without a plan of attack. We can't just wing it--does a tricycle run on just two wheels? Never mind. Just look at the subject title. Says it all right there.

We're going to need a diagram.

[eabrace]

We're going to need a diagram.

No, we're going to need a montage.

[dwturducken]

How about a trailer!

http://vimeo.com/70941166#at=0

[Captain Electric]

I usually don't care for movie mashups like that, but that is indeed an epic 6 minutes of time not wasted. I bet if a movie ever comes out that epic, the time space continuum will implode around it. In which case, it will mean only one thing....

We're going to need a Montague.

[Captain Electric]

Decided to read about who made it. Although the article below doesn't mention it, the guy is now working on Hollywood movie trailers according to his Facebook.

It's a Vimeo staff pick with more than 170,000 views. It's been hailed as a "bone-crushing 6 minutes of awesome" by Adweek and "so spot-on, you'll want to watch it twice" by Crushable. Slate calls it the "epic movie mashup to end all movie mashups" and Canada.com dubs it the "greatest, most epic movie trailer ever made."

Thing is, it's not actually a movie trailer. It's lots and lots and lots of movie trailers. And instead of being an advertisement for a Hollywood film, it is, in effect, an advertisement for a 24-year-old Belarusian video editor named Vadzim Khudabets.

Khudabets spoke to TIME via email about what led him to create the Eterna trailer. Turns out it's been years in the making.

He started by making video-game movies, but found it was the music used in movie trailers that stuck in his mind. "I got goosebumps listening to it and began to get [to know] the trailer music," he says, first using it for his gaming projects. He made his entrée into the world of promos with a 2009 supercut that garnered enough attention on YouTube to help him get hired to do trailers for Russian films. "I did not expect success of 'Trailer Cut – Volume 1′ because I think I made it poorly," he says, "and I really wanted to make the second part better."

So, for years, every time Khudabets would watch a Hollywood trailer, he was looking for moments that held his interest, filing them away for later. By the spring of this year, the previews on his list would have taken a full day to watch end-to-end. (Just how many movie appear in this clip? You can count for yourself.) Given the abundance of material, it took him several months to end the clips down; he says he was expecting to have 3 minutes worth of material but had so much that his mega-trailer ended up twice as long.

And, rather than just stringing together favorite clips, this time Khudabets tried to find repeating shots and patterns that would match the music he used, to give meaning to the trailer. He also decided to give his imaginary mega-movie a plot and a name: Eterna would be about the eternal struggle between good and evil, which is what he believes all the movies included end up focusing on. Despite the time invested and the pain of the technical work required, he says it was worth it to fulfill the goal.

"It was one of the works that you are doing for the soul, not for the client," he says. "Favorite music, favorite movies—what could be better?"

So what's next? Part three, Khudabets hopes, won't be on Vimeo or YouTube. Unsurprisingly, he's hoping for the multiplex instead.



Read more: http://entertainment.time.com/2013/08/02/the-greatest-most-epic-movie-trailer-and-how-it-was-made-2/#ixzz2hGEtHavJ

From http://entertainment.time.com/2013/08/02/the-greatest-most-epic-movie-trailer-and-how-it-was-made-2/

[Kederren]

We're going to need a Montague.

Not a Capulet?

[healix]

well, a rose by any other name still smells as sweetly....

[Captain Electric]

Not that Montague, this Montague!

https://paragonwiki.com/w/images//thumb/8/8b/Montague_Castanella.jpg/100px-Montague_Castanella.jpg

I was going to make a montage of Montague, but tonight I think I'm going to curl up with a good dynamic link library.

[PSI-on]

ROFL, I didn't even notice that. As an actor I approve *bows* good catch.

Not a Capulet?

[doc7924]

I have copies of a lot of the public court documents and part of the reason this case was dismissed was that Marvel had employees signing up for City of Heroes - creating copies of their own superheroes and then saying "See all these people copying Marvel heroes - that's infringement" .  The judge threw most of the case out because of that.

This is also the same Marvel Comics that in suit claimed they a) invented Super Heroes and b) they invented Mutants.

Both are ridiculous since super heroes were around long before Marvel or even DC comics existed in the 40's and mutants and mutations are part of evolution and have been around for millions of years.

So I don't buy this Marvel lawsuit shutting them down after 8 years - that was already dismissed.


Oh and here's an excerpt I Love

32. Marvel is informed and believes, and based thereon alleges, that
Defendants have knowingly and willfully copied numerous Marvel Characters, and
the expression they contain, including, but not limited to, Captain America,
Wolverine and The Incredible Hulk in the creation, distribution and marketing of
their City of Heroes game. Among other things, Defendants' "Statesman" character
is a blatant rip-off of Marvel's Captain America. Defendants had direct access to
the Marvel Characters by virtue of the widespread and long-term public exposure of
the Marvel Characters in both the printed and audio-visual media. Indeed, the
Marvel Characters are among the most recognizable in the "world of comic books"
that Defendants claim to "bring alive" in City of Heroes, and Defendants' principals
have mentioned Marvel as an inspiration in several articles and interviews.


Statesman is a rip off Captain America - yeah right

[Codewalker]

Statesman is a rip off Captain America - yeah right

What a blatantly false claim to make... He's obviously a Superman rip-off.

[Yoru-hime]

What a blatantly false claim to make... He's obviously a Superman rip-off.

This. If anyone had cause to sue, it was DC. Flight, super strength, laser eyes, impervious to everything but plot devices, personality of a cinder block. Really, all they missed was the big S on his chest.

[Flow-Vector]

This is a bit of a play on words...

But i think things are starting to get 'complex'

:)