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[CrimsonCapacitor]

Chiming in on several concurrent threads here:

1)  I always wanted to try that redside mission where you fought 8 duplicates of yourself, on a MM, with a team of all MM's.  I can hear my video card whimpering now....

2)  Ran an all blaster ITF once.  Aside from the alpha strike of Rommie, it wasn't too bad at all.  We left the Nictus Crystals in the cave mission until everything was cleared.  Each blaster took a crystal and we counted down, killed all the crystals at once, and then exited the mission before all the ambushes swarmed.

[Talon Blue]

Chiming in on several concurrent threads here:

1)  I always wanted to try that redside mission where you fought 8 duplicates of yourself, on a MM, with a team of all MM's.  I can hear my video card whimpering now....

I remember soloing that mission. My clones weren't that smart however. Not every copy raised their pets, and those that did didn't raise all their pets. And they didn't use bodyguard mode... :)

[ivanhedgehog]

Chiming in on several concurrent threads here:

1)  I always wanted to try that redside mission where you fought 8 duplicates of yourself, on a MM, with a team of all MM's.  I can hear my video card whimpering now....

2)  Ran an all blaster ITF once.  Aside from the alpha strike of Rommie, it wasn't too bad at all.  We left the Nictus Crystals in the cave mission until everything was cleared.  Each blaster took a crystal and we counted down, killed all the crystals at once, and then exited the mission before all the ambushes swarmed.

my wifes plant kin used to solo those ambush spawns easily

[Inc42]

2)  Ran an all blaster ITF once.  Aside from the alpha strike of Rommie, it wasn't too bad at all.  We left the Nictus Crystals in the cave mission until everything was cleared.  Each blaster took a crystal and we counted down, killed all the crystals at once, and then exited the mission before all the ambushes swarmed.

All /Thermal controllers was a super fun run of ITF, even if it did take some time. We ACCIDENTALLY killed one of the end Nictus that no one was even targeting xD

[Dying Breath]

STF is whole other kettle of fish of course.

https://youtu.be/dXrcewnTQ-E

It's possible to do an STF with all scrappers.  It takes patience, and willingness to absorb debt.  Also lots of IO's and inspirations.

The TF in the video was run on Guardian, and while it wasn't pretty, I think it still counts as a win.  Also, it was tons of fun.

[Vee]

I was much more willing to absorb debt than i am to absorb billy joel.

[hejtmane]

https://youtu.be/dXrcewnTQ-E

It's possible to do an STF with all scrappers.  It takes patience, and willingness to absorb debt.  Also lots of IO's and inspirations.

The TF in the video was run on Guardian, and while it wasn't pretty, I think it still counts as a win.  Also, it was tons of fun.

The All Scrapper STF from the scrapper forums (we ran it on the test server of course) we did quite well even beat it with the repairman bug in fact Ghost widow was a breeze but then again we all IO out builds and every dam person had Maneuvers.

Build wise for us I know the most effective person tanking Lord recluse was the Broad Sword/Shield Scrapper

We also ran an all Scrapper ITF from the forums as well was great fun

[hejtmane]

I see no reason an all scrapper team couldn't easily beat ITF. my widow and my friend's PB finished the last two mishes of it after the rest of the team left because they were dying too much. We did have the -regen from poison dart but the damage output from 8 scraps should easily make up for that. STF is whole other kettle of fish of course.

Just to note Iggy on the scrapper forums soloed an ITF with a katana/WP yes he was that good

[Tubbius]

I was much more willing to absorb debt than i am to absorb billy joel.

Hmmm.  Odd reference. . . .  Reminds me of a panel I read in a Dazzler comic (or was it X-Men?) where Dazzler is in her apartment, stressed out, saying she will "gentle down to some Billy Joel," which unconsciously triggers her sound-to-light powers.

[Vee]

Hmmm.  Odd reference. . . .  Reminds me of a panel I read in a Dazzler comic (or was it X-Men?) where Dazzler is in her apartment, stressed out, saying she will "gentle down to some Billy Joel," which unconsciously triggers her sound-to-light powers.

Only an odd reference if you didn't click the youtubes link i was responding to :P

[Tubbius]

Only an odd reference if you didn't click the youtubes link i was responding to :P

Ahhhhh!  :D  I seeeeeee now!

Big Billy Joel fan, here.

[pinballdave]

... you had to be a big shot, didncha, had to open up your mouth, had to be big shot, dincha, all your friends were so knocked out...

[Power Gamer]

Now I have the Piano Man album playing in my head.

Thank you, thank you very much.  ;)

[Tubbius]

Now I have the Piano Man album playing in my head.

Thank you, thank you very much.  ;)

But "Zanzibar" and "Big Shot" are on 52nd Street, not Piano Man.  :o

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[pinballdave]

,,,Now here you are with your faith
And your Peter Pan advice
You have no scars on your face
And you cannot handle pressure!

[LaughingAlex]

Since some have mentioned the scrapper and tanking, I agree they can be excellent tanks.  Honestly I can't help but notice, but many have a mindset of "If it does more then one thing it has to automatically suck especially in a balanced game" which, in a truely balanced game isn't true at all.  So when they tried to play city of heroes, they underestimated anything(which was nearly everything in reality anyways) that did more then one thing.  They underestimated corruptors/defenders playing as true corruptors/defenders and assumed that, cause they did more then healing, that they sucked in general. 

Reality of course was the person who litterally specialized only in restoring health points was far less effective, but they would assume he/she was the best.  They'd likely make the mistake of assuming the tanker was essential for tanking and the scrapper sucked at it, when in reality even a few buffs would bring a scrapper to tank levels of durability.  I even met people in CO who were "Oh, CoX sounds like everyone just plays hybrids like here" which wasn't at all true.  The very person in mind actually felt every single person was supposed to only heal, or tank, or dps.  He outright hated that people didn't need healers and wanted near everything nerfed specifically so he'd be needed.

All because some mmorpg players, or even a lot, litterally think everyone is supposed to only do one thing in a team because otherwise, if anyone could do more then even one thing effectively teamplay went out the window.  Course, that wasn't true.  Fact is some people are so one-track-minded and intolerant of anyone having fun in any way other than their own, it's a wonder they even have any friends at all.  So when they move to city of heroes or tried it out, they'd get their butts kicked, and rarely have a smooth pug, because they spent all their time looking for the over-specialized players who also crippled themselves.

They only have fun as I often say, being cogs in a machine that can only move or do anything when everything else is rolling perfectly exactly as they think it's supposed to.  And I'd even say that mindset leads to further problems including even the social degradation we see in many mmorpgs when we try to go to those games.  They never think, so they also lose social skills for it in addition to creativity and the ability to recognize when anything doing more then one thing can be effective.

[Power Gamer]

But "Zanzibar" and "Big Shot" are on 52nd Street, not Piano Man.  :o

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You live your fantasy world and I'll live in mine.  ;D

[hejtmane]

You live your fantasy world and I'll live in mine.  ;D

Remember we Did not start the fire; It was always burning  :P

[Stitchified]

Anyone ever notice that CoH/CoV and Guild Wars, two American made games caused (and in Guild Wars' case, still is) NCsoft to gain money versus lose it but Aion, Lineage 2 and Wildstar, three Korean-made games are causing NCsoft to lose money?

Seems rather ironic to me.
I mean, TWO games not even made by a company based in Korea are/was gaining NCsoft money and yet THREE games made by a company based in Korea are causing NCsoft to lose money!

[Kelltick]

Anyone ever notice that CoH/CoV and Guild Wars, two American made games caused (and in Guild Wars' case, still is) NCsoft to gain money versus lose it but Aion, Lineage 2 and Wildstar, three Korean-made games are causing NCsoft to lose money?

Seems rather ironic to me.
I mean, TWO games not even made by a company based in Korea are/was gaining NCsoft money and yet THREE games made by a company based in Korea are causing NCsoft to lose money!

Except for the fact that WildStar is very much an American made game.  Carbine Studios is based in CA, founded by former Blizzard/WoW devs.