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Started by Ironwolf, March 06, 2014, 03:01:32 PM

Waffles

The first thing i'm going to do when I log in...SMASH (and/or blast) ALL THE TH-

*Forgets how much sledgehammer Hellions hurt*

GETTING REVENGE!

CG

Regarding Babylon 5, season 5:

I bought all the script books when JMS had them up for sale and he talks about what went wrong with Season 5. 

He had a large binder with story notes, plots, ideas, etc that he had been compiling for the previous 5+ years.  He had one for each season.  At the end of season 4, he took the Season 5 binder on a trip and when he got back to his hotel room it was gone.  He assumed that the hotel staff cleaned it up and went rooting through the hotel dumpsters trying to find it.  As he describes, it was not a pleasant experience.

So, as a result, when he started writing Season 5 scripts he didn't have all the notes he had written for years.  That was his explanation for why Season 5 wasn't as good as we expected; he was making it all up on the fly without his prep work.

Sinistar

Quote from: CG on September 05, 2014, 03:09:02 PM
Regarding Babylon 5, season 5:

I bought all the script books when JMS had them up for sale and he talks about what went wrong with Season 5. 

He had a large binder with story notes, plots, ideas, etc that he had been compiling for the previous 5+ years.  He had one for each season.  At the end of season 4, he took the Season 5 binder on a trip and when he got back to his hotel room it was gone.  He assumed that the hotel staff cleaned it up and went rooting through the hotel dumpsters trying to find it.  As he describes, it was not a pleasant experience.

So, as a result, when he started writing Season 5 scripts he didn't have all the notes he had written for years.  That was his explanation for why Season 5 wasn't as good as we expected; he was making it all up on the fly without his prep work.

Now that I can believe, hotel rooms aren't the most secure and who knows what people are on staff.

Also of late JMS is talking about doing a big screen B5 movie reboot, which if he remains in charge I am certain will be fine.

But....if JMS and Warner Bros could sit down with the latest tech and iron out the budget and perform any and all CGI rebuilds needed to get B5 onto BLURAY.......well that would be better. I know of all the tech problems they had with DVD and that many of the props, etc are gone. But CGI has advanced considerably over the years since.

Also if JMS is in charge of that project, I feel confident he won't go crazy with little CGI add ons and changes like Lucas did. 

Not that I overly object to all the Star Wars changes, some tune ups were needed, but the Han/Greedo scene should never have been touched.
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When all seems lost in the effort to bring CoH back to life,
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Super Firebug

Quote from: Sinistar on September 05, 2014, 04:09:04 PM
Also if JMS is in charge of that project, I feel confident he won't go crazy with little CGI add ons and changes like Lucas did. 

Not that I overly object to all the Star Wars changes, some tune ups were needed, but the Han/Greedo scene should never have been touched.

One Star Wars change that I've never seen mentioned, except by me, is one that drives me crazy. In the shot of the ghosts at the end of "Return of the Jedi", Anakin's ghost should never have been changed. Obi-Wan and Yoda are both shown to be as old as they were when they died, but Anakin now looks as he did at the end of "Revenge of the Sith", which was Luke's and Leia's lifetimes ago! He would actually have been in his 40s or 50s when he died, which makes the original shot much more accurate. Restore that, and the Han/Greedo scene, and I won't quibble about the others.
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Harpospoke

Quote from: safehouse23 on September 05, 2014, 11:22:11 AM
I've been following these threads so much lately, and I know it's going to be a while... but for some reason I'm missing the City more than ever today; think I would give just about anything to "get there."

There's a definite ebb and flow. For periods of time I'm fine, but then that longing will creep in. I cannot wait until the answer to "Are we there yet" changes. Well, hopefully changes :)
Same.   I occasionally get the urge to log in.   My mind can't quite process the idea that there is nothing to log in to.   CoH is a real place in my brain.   Intellectually, I realize it's not there, but emotionally it doesn't quite connect.

pinballdave

Quote from: Waffles on September 05, 2014, 04:11:52 AM
This octo be interesting.

All the fish jokes gave me a haddock

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If you must, the ultimate source of fish puns is here:

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dwturducken

Quote from: Super Firebug on September 05, 2014, 04:38:17 PM
One Star Wars change that I've never seen mentioned, except by me, is one that drives me crazy. In the shot of the ghosts at the end of "Return of the Jedi", Anakin's ghost should never have been changed. Obi-Wan and Yoda are both shown to be as old as they were when they died, but Anakin now looks as he did at the end of "Revenge of the Sith", which was Luke's and Leia's lifetimes ago! He would actually have been in his 40s or 50s when he died, which makes the original shot much more accurate. Restore that, and the Han/Greedo scene, and I won't quibble about the others.

This! Thank you! The ghost switch has always bugged me more than any other change! Either switch in Ewan McGregor, too, or don't touch it!
I wouldn't use the word "replace," but there's no word for "take over for you and make everything better almost immediately," so we just say "replace."

Goddangit

I know this is way the hell off topic, but I want to chime in on the Han/Greedo thing.  There are many reasons why it should not have been changed, but aside from revisionist history the thing that disturbs me is it significantly affects Han's arc.  This shows us early on that Han is not a nice guy and he knows he's in a tight place.  It makes that moment when he attacks Vader's fighter and saves Luke that much more satisfying.  It's his redemption. 

Quote from: dwturducken on September 05, 2014, 07:15:54 PM
This! Thank you! The ghost switch has always bugged me more than any other change! Either switch in Ewan McGregor, too, or don't touch it!

Agree!  I hated the ghost switch.

Arcana

Quote from: Super Firebug on September 05, 2014, 04:38:17 PM
One Star Wars change that I've never seen mentioned, except by me, is one that drives me crazy. In the shot of the ghosts at the end of "Return of the Jedi", Anakin's ghost should never have been changed. Obi-Wan and Yoda are both shown to be as old as they were when they died, but Anakin now looks as he did at the end of "Revenge of the Sith", which was Luke's and Leia's lifetimes ago! He would actually have been in his 40s or 50s when he died, which makes the original shot much more accurate. Restore that, and the Han/Greedo scene, and I won't quibble about the others.

If you've never seen that mentioned before, I think you have a defective internet connection.

It also means you've never heard of Redlettermedia, which is practically a crime.  Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABcXyZn9xjg&list=UUrTNhL_yO3tPTdQ5XgmmWjA.  Now binge-watch the rest of the Plinkett reviews: http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/.  See you in a couple days.

Super Firebug

I'm really glad that I was actually able to find a DVD set, of the first three Star Wars movies, that has the original theatrical releases, as well as remastered versions. It's a relief to know that the originals are there.

Sorry, Georgie, but y'done messed up.
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DocHornet

Quote from: Irish_Girl on September 05, 2014, 04:58:39 AM
I imagine Paragon City has more than 2 janitors...

They didn't have any until Water Blast. :)

Angel Phoenix77

Quote from: Super Firebug on September 05, 2014, 07:37:51 PM
I'm really glad that I was actually able to find a DVD set, of the first three Star Wars movies, that has the original theatrical releases, as well as remastered versions. It's a relief to know that the originals are there.

Sorry, Georgie, but y'done messed up.
Im one of a few that likes the updated versions :), I remember watching the originals at the movies with my mom and aunt before she passed on. I understand there are those that love the original versions and in a way so do I, and there are some parts in the updated versions I don't like such as the dance part in Jedi it seemed out of place.
Also I read somewhere Disney is going to release the original versions on Blu-ray  and dvd;s.
I hope Jms knows what he is doing to relaunch Babylon 5 it was my favorite space sci-fi show :)
One day the Phoenix will rise again.

BadWolf

Quote from: artbunker on September 05, 2014, 12:16:51 AM
My favorite season one was the one that introduced Mr Morden of course.

Totally tooting my own horn, but I did write a brief piece of fanfic that was an encounter between the Eleventh Doctor and Morden. :) http://fraggmented.blogspot.com/2013/03/what-do-you-want-doctor.html

Harpospoke

Quote from: Goddangit on September 05, 2014, 07:19:22 PM
I know this is way the hell off topic, but I want to chime in on the Han/Greedo thing.  There are many reasons why it should not have been changed, but aside from revisionist history the thing that disturbs me is it significantly affects Han's arc.  This shows us early on that Han is not a nice guy and he knows he's in a tight place.  It makes that moment when he attacks Vader's fighter and saves Luke that much more satisfying.  It's his redemption. 
Even more than that....it makes no sense at all in that scene.

Geek tme!!!!    :D

For one thing, he didn't shoot Han on sight...that would have been easy if he just planned to kill him.   "Going somewhere, Solo?"

Secondly, Han mentions that Jabba is Greedo's boss.  Does Jabba want a dead body delivered to him?   Jabba didn't even kill Han later in RotJ.   Remember, "He's no good to me dead" from Boba Fett in ETB?   

Thirdly, Greedo gives Han the option to give the money to him.  Was he really going to shoot Han and lose that opportunity?

Fourthly, Greedo says, "Tell that to Jabba...he may only take your ship".    Obviously Greedo was planning to take Han to Jabba.

Fifthly, We see a closeup of Han readying his gun not once, but twice.    If that's not a narrative setup, I don't know what is!   :)


The whole "Greedo shot first" thing makes zero sense in context.  Lucas doesn't think things through very well.

MM3squints

Quote from: DocHornet on September 05, 2014, 08:06:32 PM
They didn't have any until Water Blast. :)

Lies they never even had a janitor. Everywhere I seen the trash flying around xD (good old trash physics)

Kistulot

Quote from: MM3squints on September 05, 2014, 10:09:33 PM
Lies they never even had a janitor. Everywhere I seen the trash flying around xD (good old trash physics)

Not to mention how many gate doors and telephone booths heroes broke not watching where they were going! :D
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blacksly

Quote from: MM3squints on September 05, 2014, 10:09:33 PM
Lies they never even had a janitor. Everywhere I seen the trash flying around xD (good old trash physics)

Personally, I blame all the Grav Controllers. Other superheroes leave the trash in the landfill instead of using them as projectile weapons.

okami

Quote from: Super Firebug on September 05, 2014, 04:38:17 PM
One Star Wars change that I've never seen mentioned, except by me, is one that drives me crazy. In the shot of the ghosts at the end of "Return of the Jedi", Anakin's ghost should never have been changed. Obi-Wan and Yoda are both shown to be as old as they were when they died, but Anakin now looks as he did at the end of "Revenge of the Sith", which was Luke's and Leia's lifetimes ago! He would actually have been in his 40s or 50s when he died, which makes the original shot much more accurate. Restore that, and the Han/Greedo scene, and I won't quibble about the others.

I'm not condoning the switch, nor am I saying Lucas thought of this, but that'd be the age of when Anakin was "killed" by Vader.