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Started by Codewalker, December 11, 2012, 02:51:44 PM

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Codewalker

Quote from: The Fifth Horseman on December 13, 2012, 10:56:49 AM
In layman's terms:
The client can run the costume creator because all code and assets needed for that are part of the client.
The client is not capable of handling the gameplay on its' own. You'd need something that does the server's work, and that's not happening anywhere in the near future.

The best that could be reasonably done would be to "run around" an empty zone. To do that, you'd need to fool the game into loading a character into its internal "player" structure (demoplay code could probably be abused for that), as well as loading a map. You'd also need to disable the code that checks for a valid connection and gives you the Lost Connection to Mapserver message.

The client does have physics code locally for motion prediction, even though it's the server's physics that "wins" when they disagree. However that sync can be disabled. During the last month I was able to "walk around" Kallisti Wharf by going to Daveland, overriding my client's map files so that it loaded Kallisti Wharf when trying to load the Daveland map (which doesn't exist normally), and then using the debug features to decouple client/server sync -- otherwise I would have just fallen through the map.

So it is possible, though you wouldn't get powers or NPCs -- all of those are handled mostly serverside. However it would be a lot more work than getting the costume creator working, and any effort toward that would be better spent on something like implementing an actual server...

JWBullfrog

Quote from: Codewalker on December 13, 2012, 02:39:17 PM

So it is possible, though you wouldn't get powers or NPCs -- all of those are handled mostly serverside. However it would be a lot more work than getting the costume creator working...

In other words, give Codewalker an hour...
As long as somebody keeps making up stories for it, the City isn't gone.

Tyger

Quote from: Codewalker on December 13, 2012, 02:39:17 PM
The best that could be reasonably done would be to "run around" an empty zone. To do that, you'd need to fool the game into loading a character into its internal "player" structure (demoplay code could probably be abused for that), as well as loading a map. You'd also need to disable the code that checks for a valid connection and gives you the Lost Connection to Mapserver message.

The client does have physics code locally for motion prediction, even though it's the server's physics that "wins" when they disagree. However that sync can be disabled. During the last month I was able to "walk around" Kallisti Wharf by going to Daveland, overriding my client's map files so that it loaded Kallisti Wharf when trying to load the Daveland map (which doesn't exist normally), and then using the debug features to decouple client/server sync -- otherwise I would have just fallen through the map.

So it is possible, though you wouldn't get powers or NPCs -- all of those are handled mostly serverside. However it would be a lot more work than getting the costume creator working, and any effort toward that would be better spent on something like implementing an actual server...
Sounds very Omega Man but I'd love to be able to do that (and I'd love to be able to get round Kallisti Wharf :D

corvus1970

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Lucretia MacEvil

I'm having trouble!  :gonk:

Windows 7

I click the link in the OP, the download thingy comes up at the bottom of the web browser, I click on it, I click "Run" in the box that comes up, and I get an Error window that says "Failed to Launch Process"  Plz help!

Lucretia MacEvil

Quote from: Lucretia MacEvil on December 13, 2012, 05:13:45 PM
I'm having trouble!  :gonk:

Windows 7

I click the link in the OP, the download thingy comes up at the bottom of the web browser, I click on it, I click "Run" in the box that comes up, and I get an Error window that says "Failed to Launch Process"  Plz help!

NVM, I figured it out.

Not a tech person... especially in the morning.

blackjak

Weird. Just tried it out and got the same message. The wierd thing is that I am on a Mac... ???  What did you do, Lucretia?
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mikoroshi

Quote from: blackjak on December 13, 2012, 05:18:35 PM
Weird. Just tried it out and got the same message. The wierd thing is that I am on a Mac... ???  What did you do, Lucretia?
Don't just run it. Check the beginning of the thread for install and usage instructions.
If you see me posting here, you need to tell me to stop it and get back to writing.

Lucretia MacEvil

I moved icon.exe from the "downloads" folder into the "City of Heroes" folder. 

It works now!

THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCHHHHH!!!!!! :D

blackjak

Quote from: mikoroshi on December 13, 2012, 06:28:36 PM
Don't just run it. Check the beginning of the thread for install and usage instructions.
Yeah. Did that.
Copied file, deleted preferences, put Icon in coh folder and replaced plist.
Then got the message.  :'(
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NecrotechMaster

Quote from: blackjak on December 13, 2012, 10:20:43 PM
Yeah. Did that.
Copied file, deleted preferences, put Icon in coh folder and replaced plist.
Then got the message.  :'(

i think mac requires a few extra steps, which i believe are in the original post of the thread

blackjak

Quote from: NecrotechMaster on December 13, 2012, 11:24:32 PM
i think mac requires a few extra steps, which i believe are in the original post of the thread
Oops. Forgot to add 'changed cider names' on my list there.
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Manga

Quote from: Lucretia MacEvil on December 13, 2012, 08:45:10 PM
I moved icon.exe from the "downloads" folder into the "City of Heroes" folder. 

It works now!

THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCHHHHH!!!!!! :D

No wonder I couldn't duplicate that problem...

Xenos

blackjak, the Mac instructions don't seem to be working for every Mac user. There seem to be some differences in the Cider client we have. TheManga mentioned that he's working on a solution for the rest of us. I am sure that it will be up eventually.

DooMTanker

Quote from: Leandro on December 11, 2012, 05:02:38 PM
Those of you who don't have the i24 client, email me at leandrotlz@gmail.com and I'll send it over to you.
Email sent, and thank you to you and Codewalker definitely :D

Mouse-Man

"Thank you" just doesn't seem to be enough words in this situation. I've been unwilling to uninstall CoH on my system... just can't bring myself to do it. Now I don't have to.

richard0427887

You have my eternal gratitude Codewalker!!!  Creating new characters and costumes was a favorite hobby of mine with CoH and you've given that back to me.   Yes...I'm an admitted Altoholic.   Thank you again.   ;D

SirThoreth

Wow, thank you for setting this up!
The hero formerly known as VolksMech (Protector server).

Samuel Tow

OK, this is awesome! Thank you so much for the programme! :) Gotta' say, even with just the costume creator and no game, City of Heroes is still more fun than damn near anything else out there.
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