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I miss CoH

Started by HeatSpike1, June 02, 2013, 04:14:03 AM

HeatSpike1

I can't seem to stop planning new builds in mids hero designer, and then heading over to Titan icon to create the character. Body, costume, powers, weapons, animation fxs.... And then entering paragon city or the rogue isles. There's always a little part of me that still has hope that once I enter, I'll be greeted by other players and able to play the game and it's full content.

*sigh*  :( I miss coh

CoyoteSeven

Once I finish developing and then building my time machine, I have plans to pull Commodore and Atari from the hands of those who flew them into ground. Through careful planning and martial prowess (as well as knowledge of the future), I will combine them into something bigger and better than Microsoft and Nintendo combined.

So that by the time City of Heroes comes along, and they're looking for a publisher and a much needed infusion of cash to get their project off the ground, I will be there at the right place and at the right time. NCSoft will never have a chance to even enter the picture. And CoH will remain online until the end of time.

It's my dream, so I make up whatever I want. :D

Drauger9

QuoteOnce I finish developing and then building my time machine, I have plans to pull Commodore and Atari from the hands of those who flew them into ground. Through careful planning and martial prowess (as well as knowledge of the future), I will combine them into something bigger and better than Microsoft and Nintendo combined.

So that by the time City of Heroes comes along, and they're looking for a publisher and a much needed infusion of cash to get their project off the ground, I will be there at the right place and at the right time. NCSoft will never have a chance to even enter the picture. And CoH will remain online until the end of time.

It's my dream, so I make up whatever I want.

LOL I could see Posi going to his mail box. Opening it up with a letter in it saying. "I'll fund your studio and City of Heroes" "Love the future!"

On a side note, if you happen to need a toaster for your time machine. I have one handy. :P

batqueen

Those toaster time machines don't always work so well. ( DOH! )

Eoraptor

how about the doritos ones?
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Twisted Toon

From what I've seen, the Doritos Time Machines only go into the future, and not Back from the Future. Although, if you could get a Hot Tub Time Machine, that might be interesting.
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Taceus Jiwede

I have a time machine that you can use.  But it only works at normal speed.  So you stand in a box for 2 years and you come out 2 years later.  Interested?

HeatSpike1

Quote from: Taceus Jiwede on March 05, 2014, 08:53:51 PM
I have a time machine that you can use.  But it only works at normal speed.  So you stand in a box for 2 years and you come out 2 years later.  Interested?

I'll take it!


JanessaVR

I've remarked before that I know lots of time travelers - namely, everyone.  We're all traveling into the future at a rate of 1 second per second.  It's slow and a one-way trip, but it's time travel.   ;D

healix

I have a special machine the size of a pocket watch that can zap me anywhere in time. I am setting it for 100 years from now, and here I go.
I'm back....want to see it again?
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Twisted Toon

Quote from: healix on March 06, 2014, 09:53:30 PM
I have a special machine the size of a pocket watch that can zap me anywhere in time. I am setting it for 100 years from now, and here I go.
I'm back....want to see it again?

I blinked. I didn't get to see it.  :(
Hope never abandons you, you abandon it. - George Weinberg

Hope ... is not a feeling; it is something you do. - Katherine Paterson

Nobody really cares if you're miserable, so you might as well be happy. - Cynthia Nelms

healix

Ok....there. Want to see it again?
Listen to the 'mustn'ts'. Listen to the 'don'ts'. Listen to the 'shouldn'ts', the 'impossibles', the 'won'ts'. Listen to the 'you'll never haves', then listen close to me... Anything can happen . Anything can be.

Twisted Toon

Hope never abandons you, you abandon it. - George Weinberg

Hope ... is not a feeling; it is something you do. - Katherine Paterson

Nobody really cares if you're miserable, so you might as well be happy. - Cynthia Nelms

Cinnder

 :)

Speaking of time travel, there have, of course, been many discussions of the problems with its portrayal in fiction, but one topic I've never seen mentioned is the whole "we can move you in time, but not in physical location" paradigm.  Books or films sometimes use this to mandate that the time traveller who enters a machine in New York 2014 will come out in New York 1814, for example, and not Egypt, Peru, etc.

But surely, if one takes into account the rotation of the Earth, the revolution of the Earth around the sun, the motion of our solar system inside our galaxy, and the motion of our galaxy in the universe, the chances that any time traveller would end up even close to Earth are miniscule.  Who knows, maybe the cold dead heart of space is littered with the frozen bodies of erstwhile time travellers...

Eoraptor

Quote from: Cinnder on March 08, 2014, 05:10:39 AM
:)

Speaking of time travel, there have, of course, been many discussions of the problems with its portrayal in fiction, but one topic I've never seen mentioned is the whole "we can move you in time, but not in physical location" paradigm.  Books or films sometimes use this to mandate that the time traveller who enters a machine in New York 2014 will come out in New York 1814, for example, and not Egypt, Peru, etc.

But surely, if one takes into account the rotation of the Earth, the revolution of the Earth around the sun, the motion of our solar system inside our galaxy, and the motion of our galaxy in the universe, the chances that any time traveller would end up even close to Earth are miniscule.  Who knows, maybe the cold dead heart of space is littered with the frozen bodies of erstwhile time travellers...
heh, I wrote a little ficlet about this very think a few months back. guy sent his pocket watch five minutes into the past... but couldn't find it... six weeks later it turn up orbiting the moon.

Spoiler for Hidden:
According to Albert Einstein, Stephen Hawking, Ho Chen, and others, Time Travel is not impossible. And in an infinite universe, if something is not impossible; then not only is it possible, but it almost certainly has already happened.

But there is a rather massive leap between something being theoretically possible, and scientifically practical. Practically Impossible, we call it.

To build up an example most people can understand of this practical impossibility, we look at one of the first experiments in time travel by a physical mass. Doctor Drew Lipsky attempted to send his pocket watch five minutes into the past, an attempt to recreate numerous thought experiments in practice.

He succeeded in the translocation, but with unexpected results. The watch successfully traveled through time, but he was unable to located it for three weeks after the conclusion of both the entrance and the exit.

The reasons why are illustrated in his foundation paper "In Principia Temporalis." To start with the Earth has a rotational velocity of point four seven kilometers per second. Meaning that over a span of five minutes, the watch remained in in the same position in the physical dimensions, but the earth spun beneath it a total of one hundred and forty one kilometers, backwards. In addition to its rotational movement, the planet also orbits its parent star at twenty nine point eight kilometers per second. So the planet Earth had moved eight thousand nine hundred forty one kilometers away from where it was at the start of the temporal colocation.

Beyond these two factors of movement, there are dozens of other similar numbers introducing huge uncertainties into temporal colocation, or "time travel." The earth not only has rotational velocity on its axis, but that axis is not fixed. It oscillates back and forth over a twenty one degree arc, adding a wider cone to what would otherwise be a simple line trajectory. And the Earth's velocity is not constant in its travel around the sun; instead it moves in an ellipse, moving slower or faster at different points, and the ratios of that ellipse also change over time.

And then there is the fact that the Earth's rotation speeds up or slows down over time as well, affected by seismic events tidal events, and the distance of the moon and sun on its spin.

And that is just the sun-earth-moon system. It doesn't account for other changes such as the effects of the gravity of other planets, moons, and extra-solar stars on the Earth. It also doesn't take into account that the entire solar system is moving, as a group of collected bodies, around the galaxy at one hundred eighty seven kilometers per second, and that the galaxy itself is also moving through the greater universe at one hundred thirty kilometers per second. And all of these velocities are constantly shifting through a complex interaction of fields of gravity and energy, and so none are constant.

At the end of Lipsky's experiment, he located his watch, which had fallen into the gravity of the moon and was loosely orbiting there at a lunar altitude of fourteen hundred kilometers; and that was only over a time-span of five minutes! Granted it was also a blind transit with no attempt to compensate for any of the above factors. In a follow-up experiment with an identical watch, Lipsky attempted to calculate all knowable variables including the velocity and rotation of the earth, the moon, the sun, and observable velocity of the solar system through the milky way galaxy.

Even with some of the most powerful computer systems available, working from a relatively fixed point in space-time colocation Lipsky was only able to achieve an accuracy of four hundred and six kilometers spherical. And given that thirty percent of that was beneath the solid body of the planet, and another fourty percent was in the upper atmosphere of the planet, Lipsky determined that manned time travel was a practical impossibility over all but a few minutes span.

Similar experiments returned similarly disheartening results over the years, with one notably tragic mishap occurring when a collocated vortex was opened up inadvertently between the target laboratory and the inner layers of the sun. The lab and all personnel were destroyed, and the vortex only closed when the equipment which had opened it was vaporized and shredded by nuclear fusion and gravity.

And so Time Travel, while a scientific possibility and certainty, is still practically impossible.

Which is why when you need to do it, you call in Kim Possible.
"Some people can read War and Peace and come away thinking it's a simple adventure story, while others can read the back of a chewing gum wrapper and unlock the secrets of the universe!"
-Lex Luthor

Super Firebug

Quote from: Cinnder on March 08, 2014, 05:10:39 AM
:)

Speaking of time travel, there have, of course, been many discussions of the problems with its portrayal in fiction, but one topic I've never seen mentioned is the whole "we can move you in time, but not in physical location" paradigm.  Books or films sometimes use this to mandate that the time traveller who enters a machine in New York 2014 will come out in New York 1814, for example, and not Egypt, Peru, etc.

But surely, if one takes into account the rotation of the Earth, the revolution of the Earth around the sun, the motion of our solar system inside our galaxy, and the motion of our galaxy in the universe, the chances that any time traveller would end up even close to Earth are miniscule.  Who knows, maybe the cold dead heart of space is littered with the frozen bodies of erstwhile time travellers...

The TV show, "Seven Days", addressed this. During a seven-day backstep, Parker had to guide the chronosphere to keep it near Earth, in the hopes of landing it somewhere close to where he needed to be.
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Cinnder

Quote from: Eoraptor on March 09, 2014, 12:49:30 AM
heh, I wrote a little ficlet about this very think a few months back. guy sent his pocket watch five minutes into the past... but couldn't find it... six weeks later it turn up orbiting the moon.

Brilliant!!  Thank you for addressing that.  You've quelled a concern I've had for years.  Nice work!

[P.S. The editor in me can't help but point out that "forty" doesn't have a "u" in it.]

CoyoteSeven

Quote from: Super Firebug on March 09, 2014, 01:43:32 AM
The TV show, "Seven Days", addressed this. During a seven-day backstep, Parker had to guide the chronosphere to keep it near Earth, in the hopes of landing it somewhere close to where he needed to be.

A certain Sam Beckett didn't have this problem. In fact, he worked around it quite cleverly. Though he did sort of have a few other problems with his method...

Graydar

I just had a dream about City of Heroes. It was back with new zones and an expansion on the ordinary lvl 50, to lvl 55.  :gonk:

Felderburg

I don't know about the location problem... it seems to me, that because the general movement of planetary bodies is so consistent, a sufficiently powerful computer would be able to calculate the exact location of a certain spot at various points of time.
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