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Title: I miss CoH
Post by: HeatSpike1 on June 02, 2013, 04:14:03 AM
Hello everyone,

I'm currently playing SP mode on the Pocket D ski slopes. Two words, First word: Nostalgia! Second word: Sadness :(

Hitting the slopes, hearing the sounds of wind chimes and WOOHOO's, while listening to the "Yodeling" song really makes me miss this one aspect out of the many of CoH. The more time that passes the more I find to miss about this game and our community.  Although we can't all play together, thanks to Codewalker, the rest of the Titan Network, and all others who have made what we CAN access possible.

Share what triggers that nostalgia for you at the moment, what you love, and what you miss the most about CoH!
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Absolute on June 02, 2013, 04:21:25 AM
My desktop background is the Recluse's Victory loading screen at the moment. Sometimes I get to my computer and think I'm about to go in-game.

Surprisingly, every new game I play has one hand on the mouse and the other on the keyboard. CoH was the only game I played where one hand was on near WASD and the other was on the arrow keys. I wish I could play more games like that. I remember almost getting DCUO to not need a mouse whatsoever and the controls were made to be like CoH. If I could bind a key on my keyboard to click my mouse for me so I could shoot, I could actually play DCUO without a mouse. That would be nice, like CoH. That's what I miss the most, my hand position while playing CoH.

Lastly, I downloaded some of the CoH music I like. Sometimes it'll come up on shuffle, other times I'll play it while playing other games. CoH had some really good gaming music.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Tubbius on June 02, 2013, 05:28:32 AM
Several things I miss about COH:

1. My super group that I helped head.  While most of us are real life friends (and I'm certainly still in touch with my girlfriend!), and I'm still in touch with my co-founder through Marvel Heroes, there's something to be said for that sense of togetherness where, no matter what characters you go in as, you know everyone else has your back, you have his/hers, and you know how everyone will act and react.  We were TIGHT.

2. The welcoming chatter and community.  I could log in and, regardless of zone, likely hit up someone to chat with, happily and freely, buddy or not, through a chat channel or in zone local or broadcast speak.  In so many other games, this is missing; I log in, try to start up a conversation or just shout out a "Hi folks!" to the zone, and I get nothing in response.

3. Sights and sounds and music and power activations: stuff that made the game alive.  Knowing that when I hit that "Bow-chicka-wow" music of Blyde Square in Steel Canyon, I was near the base portal.  Getting a kick out of teleporting into a crowd with Waddle the Penguin and Glacier freezing everyone around me or tripping them up with an ice slick.  Shoot, even watching that flaming fists effect on Hasten, even if it didn't really fit all of my characters but still finding it very cool.

4. The Architect Entertainment system.  I teach English.  I love to write.  I've been role-playing for about 25 years, being self-taught on Dungeons & Dragons in the 80s.  The AE system was a wonderful blend of tools (though buggy!) that let me see, in the end, eight polished tales to final stages and to connect four of them into an ongoing arc for developing a favorite character.

5. Finally, the ability to just log in for ten or fifteen minutes, run a radio mission or AE blitz one of my arcs, craft some stuff in the base, talk to some friends at two in the morning, or just hang in Atlas Park and hold a costume contest on Justice. . . .  City was a game where you could have a great time commitment, like running numerous Dark Astoria incarnate missions in a row or getting in a Rikti mothership raid, or you could chill out for a quarter of an hour and still feel fulfilled.  So many games require BIG time investments to get much of anywhere, particularly late game, but even as a level 50 incarnate, I could simply mess around or run a hero tip mish or whatever without needing to have an "epic story" all the time.  I really miss this, perhaps the most.

I hope that NCSoft reopens or sells the game; should they do either, I hope they have the capability and willingness to set us back up with all our old stuff.  I know that might not be physically possible and that all our characters and stories might be long gone due to a simple "format c:\, enter". . . but there's always hope, until we hear otherwise, right?
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Cinnder on June 02, 2013, 06:59:08 AM
I miss EVERYTHING about it.  Even sappers.  Even the layer cake map.  Even the clunky respec mechanic.  (Well, ok, everything except anything related to Twinshot.  But everything else.)  I miss that there were so many different things to do.  And, as Tubbius just said, that some of those things could be done in a fulfilling way even if you had only a short time to play.  I miss that there were so many power sets, making every AT worth replaying many times.  I miss the balance the devs got between humour and realism.  I miss the feeling that each level improved my character's abilities in a way I could detect.  I miss combat I had to think about instead of just spamming attacks.  (I always think of my first Dom -- grav/psi -- when he would take on multiple enemies at lower levels: ok, knock that guy down, then hold that guy, now blast the third guy, knock the first one down again, oops the 2nd one needs to be held again...  In every other MMO I have tried, the most successful strategy seems to be "spam one mob till he's dead, then move on to the next one".)  I miss the way new stuff was always being released for a variety of levels, not just endgame grind missions.  I miss my supergroup.  I miss a game that isn't loot-based.  And, as several have said, I miss the chat -- the generally laid-back and welcoming community.

What I can't figure out is what triggers the nostalgia.  I get random scenes in my head for no apparent reason.  Like just now, while I was getting dressed, I suddenly saw quite clearly the explodable lab equipment room.  To my knowledge, none of my clothes will give me random buffs or debuffs if I destroy them.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Triplash on June 02, 2013, 02:01:17 PM
5. Finally, the ability to just log in for ten or fifteen minutes, run a radio mission or AE blitz one of my arcs, craft some stuff in the base, talk to some friends at two in the morning, or just hang in Atlas Park and hold a costume contest on Justice. . . .  City was a game where you could have a great time commitment, like running numerous Dark Astoria incarnate missions in a row or getting in a Rikti mothership raid, or you could chill out for a quarter of an hour and still feel fulfilled.  So many games require BIG time investments to get much of anywhere, particularly late game, but even as a level 50 incarnate, I could simply mess around or run a hero tip mish or whatever without needing to have an "epic story" all the time.  I really miss this, perhaps the most.

Yep, I'm right there with ya on that one Tubbius. I don't have endless hours of time for playing games like I once did. Looking after Dad all day, I often have to leave the computer unexpectedly for who knows how long. I can pretty much only do things that can be put on hold indefinitely and at a moment's notice. So if I want to play a game, I either have to be able to pause it or be positive that there's no harm in walking away for a while. That's a big part of why I used to love street sweeping; I could be guaranteed there were no patrols or ambushes coming. I could find a quiet section of the street and go deal with whatever little RL task needed doing, and when I got back my character would still be just standing there, chillin', no harm done. Once in a while a passerby had accidentally dragged a mob onto me, but it wasn't common enough to worry about.

Another thing I miss is wandering the back streets randomly and running into really cool people there. Breaking into a spontaneous little RP session just by talking to each other in character, or deciding to run their new AE arc because it sounds cool and they're fun to hang out with ( ;) ).

A really big one for me is the breathtaking variety of different costumes you could make. There was a group called Hero Dawn on Virtue that held regular costume contests, most of them themed, and I went to every one I could. I loved checking out the amazing entries they always had, and after a while I even started entering them myself. That group and their contests is the reason I came to love making costumes so much. I got pretty good at it near the end there, too... which is also entirely thanks to them. Their contests, and the people who gathered there, were downright inspiring.

Even now when I see a cool looking character in a movie or comic, it gives me new ideas and I'll want to jump into the tailor. Cause it wasn't just one kind of character you could make... no no. You could make darn near anything. For example, all morning I've been obsessed with making a robot dog named "Rover 9000". No real reason, it just came to me and I wanted to see how it would turn out. City of Heroes was the only game where that could be a playable character, as opposed to just a nametag over a generic avatar or a generic pet companion. (Well okay, the only game of that kind that I actually care to play.)

Of course, two of my favorite parts have been mostly given back to us thanks to Codewalker's Icon program. I can now zip around checking out the scenery again, in a fully costumed character. And while I would prefer having super jump or ninja run be a travel option as well, you won't catch me complaining! It's already helped a lot just being able to see my characters in motion again, to wander the streets of the city.

Now I'm just wondering how hard it would be to organize a costume contest using screenshots. Hmmm...
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Noyjitat on June 02, 2013, 02:39:46 PM
1. Friends and the family like feeling I had playing with some of them.
2. The game as a whole.

I never have had as many online friends as I had in city of heroes. Now I'm basically solo again with one, sometimes two friends that play CO, STO and DCUO with me. I've been trying to seek out some of my friends from Liberty but I'm guessing most have simply stopped playing mmos completely. I had a group of friends in SWTOR but friendships and fun have been ruined over time by greed and other factors. Our guild fell apart because people couldn't get along. One guy was kicked because he couldn't follow the Raiding rules; Rule which normally wouldn't exist in Coh because of its completely different raid system. We eventually joined the guild her went to when ours fell apart and that one eventually fell apart as well due to greed and other factors and finally just gave up after our raid team fell apart.

Our raid team lost members due to the bickering and the dislike for the new raid content. The transition from EV and Karagga to Explosive conflict wasn't fun at all for any of us. The swtor team decided to listen to people saying the content was too easy and made even the normal mode of this new raid ridiculously hard and quite lengthy compared to the previous raid content. I heard the next raid was a little more relaxed but our group fell apart so I'm pretty much just not playing anymore.

I've basically made DCUO and STO my home until we get CoX back. I have made a CoX Liberty League in dcuo hoping to find some of my friends from liberty to team and raid with but if someone reading this knows me from liberty and has a group with that liberty family feeling to it I might be interested in joining. I really miss my liberty friends.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Thunder Glove on June 02, 2013, 05:07:15 PM
What's really frustrating is when I try to describe all (or even SOME) of the things I miss about CoH to people who never played it, and I get reactions like I'm making up a fantasy wishlist of impossible game features (as opposed to talking about an actual game I played for years).

It still continues to amaze me how unique CoH was.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: LadyImmolatasia on June 02, 2013, 05:12:00 PM
God, I miss the game in so many ways. I remember and get nostalgic every time I hear the soft tones of Steel Canyon's music off of the tram near The Copper District; it was one of the first big sights that wowed me when I started playing nine years ago. I had my ill-fated Blaster/devices toon back in "The City of Blasters" issue zero days. Got her up to level 14 and remembered getting there right after Perez Park.

I miss Atlas, I miss Pocket D, Port Oakes, Cap. I remember running missions with my first big villain-turned hero Lady Immolatasia, made her close to when Villains launched and she became my staple main. It's been a long history, and I've seen the dawn of the game, to the rise of Praetoria to its end. This game needs to come back. It's just not fair to have lost such an enormous piece of gaming history and creative expression.

I've played the game with two of my real life best friends, and made countless others through the game itself.

So, even after six months, like a lot of others, I'm not going to give up hope. If CoX is too big, we have the Phoenix Projects. Someday we will have what we love again.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: LaughingAlex on June 02, 2013, 05:53:26 PM
What's really frustrating is when I try to describe all (or even SOME) of the things I miss about CoH to people who never played it, and I get reactions like I'm making up a fantasy wishlist of impossible game features (as opposed to talking about an actual game I played for years).

It still continues to amaze me how unique CoH was.

I feel the same way.  The standard of MMO's has litterally devolved rather than evolved anymore.  Many have stated that the MMO genre has lost tons for losing CoH because it was very unique in that it wasn't filled with the fake longevity of excessive grinding nore did teaming require everyone conform to the holy trinity.  Teaming was about fun, as was playing the game in general.  When I describe that we had buffs/debuffs and crowd control that really stopped incoming damage people often reply to me "yeah, right.".  They even go as far as to say Guild wars 2 failed at that(god I hope not, but I don't wanna bother with it with the way NCSoft and Nexxon have rubbed me the wrong way).

It's honestly sickening to me, I refuse to play most mmo's because well thats all they are; carbon copies of one another that had no innovation for the past decade, and they think i'm the loser for it.  Well, I think they are the losers for playing carbon copies of games from the 1990s.  Here we had this little light in the darkness of clones and NCsoft snuffed it.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Nebularian on June 02, 2013, 06:13:54 PM
I miss so much about COH.

Yeah, I miss teaming with my friends.   and I miss the times I went solo.

I miss the satisfaction of keeping a team alive (despite the best efforts of tanks that thought they were bigger and badder than they really were  ;D)

I miss the story arcs...sigh....I created a toon concept completely around her hatred of the Council.

I don't think I ever lost the sense of awe I felt when I first played.  And I think I miss that most. In comparison, all other games pale.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: LadyVamp on June 02, 2013, 08:04:39 PM
There are too many things I miss about Coh to list them all.  But if forced into naming one thing about the game that is about the game that I miss, I miss getting on my assault/devices blaster and joining an assault blaster team.  There's nothing like laying down full auto with targeting drone and the accuracy power from the leadership pool power set.  Can't be blinded.  With 8 of us, talk about a slaughter.

If I could name 2 things, it would be my fire/rad corruptor.  She was fun.  Almost unhittable.  She would have to tie with my fire/kenetics corr.  The fire/kin could drop some serious dmg.

But in truth what I miss most about the game isn't so much the game as it is all of you.

Sometimes, I will often turn on the coh music while playing other mmos.  Interestingly enough, the music fits well there too.  Sometimes even better than the mmo's music fits itself. 

I have been considering taking one of the open source back end engines and building my base.  Maybe even put in the elements that I could only use my imagination for.  It would take a lot of work but I could host the back-end on one of my many Linux or FreeBSD VMs.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Blondeshell on June 02, 2013, 09:00:51 PM
What's really frustrating is when I try to describe all (or even SOME) of the things I miss about CoH to people who never played it, and I get reactions like I'm making up a fantasy wishlist of impossible game features (as opposed to talking about an actual game I played for years).

It still continues to amaze me how unique CoH was.

Just print out this list and read/show it to them.

I Knew an MMO that... (http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,5754.msg65089.html#msg65089)
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Blitzwing on June 02, 2013, 11:52:12 PM
We all miss it in our own ways....

Mine take the form of memories of classic moments from my time there(July 2004 to November/December 2009).  :)

I think it was the original Positron TF(and I'll gladly stand corrected on facets of this story), and we had finished a particularly rough mission; beaten-up, but intact...; we exited the building, and the hairs on the back of my neck stand up with no warning...I look to the left...and see a rather large mob heading STRAIGHT FOR US!!  O_O;

Cue a collective 'Oh, SHI-' from the group as it proceeds to lay into us while we're still recovering...I'm still not sure how we managed to get out of that ambush in 1 piece....   8)
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: JaguarX on June 02, 2013, 11:59:31 PM
What's really frustrating is when I try to describe all (or even SOME) of the things I miss about CoH to people who never played it, and I get reactions like I'm making up a fantasy wishlist of impossible game features (as opposed to talking about an actual game I played for years).

It still continues to amaze me how unique CoH was.

Goes to show the sheer amount of potential customers PS/NCsoft missed by not egtting the word out.


I dont think I came across a single person that I described the game to that said, "Man, that game sound like it sucked." Like most other games, when described get mixed reaction. Even CO. Not COX though. And not a single one of them ever even heard of the game prior to me telling them about it pre- and post closing.

As time go on, and more people I come across that said the ywould play a game as described. Three yesterday, not friends, complete strangers, said they would have never even bothered with WoW if they knew a game like COX existed. And that is merely a few within a an half hour within a small desert town. Now imagine in places like LA, Atlanta, New York City, Chicago (assuming they dont get shot first), St Louis, Seattle and etc.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Blue Pulsar on June 03, 2013, 12:32:04 AM
5. Finally, the ability to just log in for ten or fifteen minutes, run a radio mission or AE blitz one of my arcs, craft some stuff in the base, talk to some friends at two in the morning, or just hang in Atlas Park and hold a costume contest on Justice. . . .  City was a game where you could have a great time commitment, like running numerous Dark Astoria incarnate missions in a row or getting in a Rikti mothership raid, or you could chill out for a quarter of an hour and still feel fulfilled.  So many games require BIG time investments to get much of anywhere, particularly late game, but even as a level 50 incarnate, I could simply mess around or run a hero tip mish or whatever without needing to have an "epic story" all the time.  I really miss this, perhaps the most.


QFT
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: HeatSpike1 on June 03, 2013, 01:47:30 PM
Goes to show the sheer amount of potential customers PS/NCsoft missed by not egtting the word out.


I dont think I came across a single person that I described the game to that said, "Man, that game sound like it sucked." Like most other games, when described get mixed reaction. Even CO. Not COX though. And not a single one of them ever even heard of the game prior to me telling them about it pre- and post closing.

As time go on, and more people I come across that said the ywould play a game as described. Three yesterday, not friends, complete strangers, said they would have never even bothered with WoW if they knew a game like COX existed. And that is merely a few within a an half hour within a small desert town. Now imagine in places like LA, Atlanta, New York City, Chicago (assuming they dont get shot first), St Louis, Seattle and etc.

True. 

Almost none of my friends had ever heard about CoX until I mentioned it.  But based on the uniqueness and originality that I explained to them, they all loved the game after trying it.  NCSoft should have made greater efforts in advertising CoX.  Afterall, I only heard of it through word of mouth from a friend...
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Mazz vs The World on June 03, 2013, 03:39:10 PM
I never heard anything about COH. I just so happen to be in Wal-Mart (don't judge me) one day cruising for a new xbox or ps3 game and I came across this blue box with a hero on the front. I picked it up, read about it, and bought it. My love for COH grew from there! This was an amazing game. I'm sure like all games it has it's fair share of "haters", but most people who I've introduced it to loved it. I still can't believe a game of it's caliber is gone cause nothing touches it right now but maybe that's why it closed. It was too good and would take away from other games that other companies want to put out like the Marvel crap game that's out now.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: JennSpace on June 03, 2013, 04:13:45 PM
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: saipaman on June 04, 2013, 01:21:38 AM
One thing I miss is the opportunity to rant in chat about just about anything.

I got lots of mileage out of the change in footstep sounds.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: MindBlender on June 04, 2013, 04:34:09 AM
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Lycantropus on June 04, 2013, 06:29:29 AM
I've logged into the Icon program at least once a day (and now seed the Beta client since I learned there was a difference, though I'm not a fan of torrents) since I got it.

I miss it too. My whole SG still does. Our first 'rebound' was SW:TOR, and that was... less than satisfying. We're playing The Secret World now, and while we enjoy it we inevitably gripe about team size, game mechanics, and travel options as the most obvious complaints. Whatever we don't like though, we inevitably end it (and reconcile) with the phrase "there's no place like home" as that's all there is to say on the topic. There just isn't.

Lyc~
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Nyghtshade on December 08, 2013, 09:41:27 PM
I keep seeing people posting that they're using the ICON client to load into CoH and then going to the Ski Chalet.  How is this done?  When I load into through the ICON costume creator, my alt loads out into Atlas Park and is stuck there. 

How can someone zone from AP into the Pocket D, and from there into the Ski Chalet?

Thanks for any help with this.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Blondeshell on December 08, 2013, 11:59:16 PM
I keep seeing people posting that they're using the ICON client to load into CoH and then going to the Ski Chalet.  How is this done?  When I load into through the ICON costume creator, my alt loads out into Atlas Park and is stuck there. 

How can someone zone from AP into the Pocket D, and from there into the Ski Chalet?

Thanks for any help with this.

Paragon Wiki to the rescue! (http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Titan_Icon)

Specifically:
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Alpha Series on December 09, 2013, 01:03:05 AM
Very Simply: I miss everything you all have written, and I miss all of you.

Happy Holidays, everyone.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Drauger9 on December 09, 2013, 02:06:04 AM
Quote
This was much more than a game!

This is so true, when my bestfriend died (we were bestfriends for 20 years). City of Heroes and the community was there for me. AE had just came out and everyone was farming it. An old friend of mine was on Agent Boiling Point. He was playing a fire/kin and asked if I had a Stone tank. I said sure, So I switch and face planted on every mob for hours cause my eyes where full of tears. He never said anything about it, he just keeped going. After about 4 hour with out him even knowing what was going on in my personal life. I told him I was sorry and I couldn't tank. He replied with that's fine, grab an alt and door sit if you want. After countless wipes and me majorly over pulling. He responded with that's fine, grab and alt and door sit.

Now without City of Heroes, every year on my bestfriends memorial. I just watch anime videos and cry. LOL!

That's what I miss the most. No matter what's going on in your life.  You could log in and like magic someone would always be there. You could have the worse day of your life, be completely un able to function and someone would say "Grab and alt and door sit if you want." No questions asked.

/em holdtorch
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: LaughingAlex on December 09, 2013, 03:40:59 PM
I miss the roleplaying that was actually good, especially with AE around, it felt like we got to play each others plots out, rather than trying to pretend, and then dealing with some tool who'd infinitely one-up everyone else because that, other, games freeform system makes them think it's ok to roleplay being on god mode.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Angel Phoenix77 on December 09, 2013, 10:18:12 PM
I too miss city of heroes, but in someway after all of my global friends left I never really recovered. (survivors guilt) that was abit of the end of me. but now I know I could have teamed up more and made new friends. I miss just logging in and watching the players just going about their business. :(
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Tubbius on December 10, 2013, 01:29:13 AM
I still stand by everything I wrote six months ago on this thread.

I also still miss City of Heroes.  With every other game I've played, it's been the situation where I could pick the game back up if I wanted (my home consoles and even some old DOS games), or I had made my peace with a game and cut ties to it (when Diablo deleted my level 45 Warrior while patching, I knew that was it for me; when I logged in to find GunZ no longer online after a few months away, it was just a brief "Meh" and done).

I didn't really get to do either of those with City of Heroes, apart from giving a fourth AE arc that gave a hopeful resolution to the story of Waddle the Penguin, of the PENGUIN Project from Crey Biotech.  I'd still be playing City of Heroes today if I could, as I think we all agree we would be.

I keep meaning to try Icon, but I keep hesitating.  Part of it's not knowing how I'll take logging in to an empty Paragon City.  Part of it's concern over, of course, the legality of the software accessing even a limited portion of the game.

All in all, City of Heroes was, and arguably still is, an amazing part of my life.  It's one I'd love to have back in full.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: HEATSTROKE on December 10, 2013, 02:17:07 AM
i tried Icon... I cant do it..
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Tubbius on December 10, 2013, 02:18:21 AM
Can't do it emotionally, or can't figure it out?
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: LadyVamp on December 10, 2013, 04:46:33 AM
i tried Icon... I cant do it..

You got further than I did.  I didn't even download icon.exe.  Couldn't bring myself to even try.  I really can't re-enter that world without all of you.

Those wounds run pretty deep.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: CoyoteSeven on December 10, 2013, 07:34:24 AM
I wonder if there is a way to get Icon to erm... you know... link several clients together so people can cavort online together inside the ski chalet...

I erm... I'm just asking for the game to come back, aren't I? Sigh.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: DJMoose on December 10, 2013, 08:10:34 AM
What I miss the most about CoH is all the things I was not able to experience.

Thanks to ICON, I was able to experience the ski slopes of the Pocket D Chalet for the first time.

Void Summoner hitting the slopes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAEh5Akhhk0)

Would be nice to have other players around. :'(
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Nyghtshade on December 10, 2013, 08:44:37 PM
I've read the wiki-links for CoH maps, and I'm sadly still clueless.  I didn't see any in the map code-string listings for the ski chalet.   Help?

I did download the Icon mini-program, Icon 1.7.1.0, which is still in my 'download' folder.  From there I'm able to open the Costume Creator, and the load into Atlas Park.  But once in AP, of course, it's a closed-loop map.

Can someone give me more basic directions on what to do next?  I really would love to visit the ski chalet map again this month.

Thanks.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: JanessaVR on December 10, 2013, 09:43:27 PM
I keep meaning to try Icon, but I keep hesitating.  Part of it's not knowing how I'll take logging in to an empty Paragon City.  Part of it's concern over, of course, the legality of the software accessing even a limited portion of the game.
That's already been discussed here, more than once in fact.  You're totally in the clear - we have researched and established legal precedent for continuing to use software no longer supported by it's creator(s), and CodeWalker published the source code for Icon, to prove that it was independently developed from official CoH source code.  You're worrying about nothing for no reason.

Do you really think the police and an army of NCSoft lawyers are going to kick down your door for using Icon?  Seriously, this is "legal hypochondria" here.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: JanessaVR on December 10, 2013, 09:50:01 PM
I've read the wiki-links for CoH maps, and I'm sadly still clueless.  I didn't see any in the map code-string listings for the ski chalet.   Help?

I did download the Icon mini-program, Icon 1.7.1.0, which is still in my 'download' folder.  From there I'm able to open the Costume Creator, and the load into Atlas Park.  But once in AP, of course, it's a closed-loop map.

Can someone give me more basic directions on what to do next?  I really would love to visit the ski chalet map again this month.

Thanks.
1)  Enter "/loadmap_prompt" in the chat/command line.

2)  Enter the map code for the Ski Chalet...which I just looked for and can't find.  Tried to find the Tiki Room in Pocket D while I was at it, and no luck there, either.  Huh, I'll have to look around and see if I can find it somewhere.  The Pocket D arena is on the lists, however.  How odd.

EDIT:  See this post:
http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,7238.msg91876.html#msg91876

That might be it.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Blondeshell on December 10, 2013, 10:25:46 PM
The Ski Chalet and Tiki Room are separate areas of the general Pocket D zone -- there is no separate map for them.

What should work is to load up Pocket D and use the alternate spawn point hotkey until you end up where you want to be.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: JanessaVR on December 10, 2013, 10:34:09 PM
Thanks, Blondeshell!   :)
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Pearl Dragon on December 11, 2013, 02:19:39 AM

Whenever I select the origin ' City of Heroes Going Rogue ' before creating a toon, then try to enter the Going Rogue tutorial, I end up in the Chalet.  It has happened 3 times now.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Nyghtshade on December 11, 2013, 04:01:14 AM
Eureka!  Typing in to the chat window:    /loadmap [Map maps/City_Zones/City_02_04/City_02_04.txt]   
worked, and I loaded straight into the Chalet map. 

Thanks to everyone for your help!!  Now all I need to do is figure out whether it's possible to load a jingle-jet.   :-)
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Tacitala on December 11, 2013, 04:22:46 AM
Whenever I select the origin ' City of Heroes Going Rogue ' before creating a toon, then try to enter the Going Rogue tutorial, I end up in the Chalet.  It has happened 3 times now.

Yeah, that's where it will always take you.  I'm not quite sure why, but my guess is that it's because the Praetorian tutorial was spread across several maps.  To get to the starting map, the outdoors one, try maps/City_Zones/P_City_00_05/P_City_00_05.txt as the location.  Down in the tunnels, where you chose your alignment, should be maps/Missions/Unique/P_Tutorial/TunnelVersionOfP_Tutorial.txt

If you skip the tutorial and directly select, Loyalist will drop you off in Nova by Dominatrix's steps.  Resistance will get you a random spawn point in Imperial City.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Nyghtshade on December 11, 2013, 04:44:57 AM
Now that I've learned enough about the Titan Icon program to actually load into the CoH costume creator, and then load into the game and choose what map in which to run around, I finally got Nyght back to the Ski Chalet.  Oh, how I've missed the music and the yodeling there!  (and the occasional "moo"), and all the snow.

Thanks again to everyone who offered help, a terrific reminder of why this was and always will be the best MMO community.

So, here's my Holiday Greetings to one and all, and my wish that whatever Season you might be celebrating, that it's a good one, with a wonderful New Year in 2014.

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=farm8.staticflickr.com%2F7317%2F11318589594_52bcfb9ba7_z.jpg)
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Codewalker on December 11, 2013, 05:12:53 AM
Yeah, that's where it will always take you.  I'm not quite sure why, but my guess is that it's because the Praetorian tutorial was spread across several maps.

It's a relic from the first version of Icon that enabled so-called "serverless" mode. There was no /loadmap command yet, so it was hardcoded (aka hacked) to load specific maps and send you to preset coordinates based on what character type you picked from the creator.

Atlas and Mercy were obvious enough, and of course the Outbreak tutorial for nostalgia (and Breakout would have been not too useful since without working doors you're stuck inside unless you use noclip). For Loyalist and Resistance I used Nova and... Imperial City I think. I didn't think anyone would really care about the Precinct Five tutorial, so I used that one to sneak in a little easter egg and send you to Pocket D instead, as it was a popular hangout.

Which of course also means the Ski Chalet (hooray for ski slopes!), as the default state of Pocket D is with the Chalet visible. Bit of trivia, but the server would actually send instructions to the client to make the chalet invisible every time you went to Pocket D out of season...
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Stealth Dart on December 11, 2013, 10:20:50 AM
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i44.tinypic.com%2Fmjv529.jpg)

From the depths of the Ski Chalet....Pocket D
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Illusionss on December 11, 2013, 05:21:56 PM
i tried Icon... I cant do it..

Although I have very mixed feelings when loading into ICON, its still better than being completely shut out of the game. One thing I have noticed is, that I now have to ability to really see a lot of zone detail now that I am not being chased or harassed by NPCs, or other players in PvP zones. I can go anywhere, and take my time to look at everything.

A lot of times when I worked out in the morning [I work 12 hour night shift], I would log in and take a given character to a zone and collect all the exploration badges, move onto the next zone etc. When I got tired I would log off and go to bed. I found this activity strangely soothing; not really playing the game per se, but just flying around listening to the zone music, watching chat channels and seeing the sights. One fun game I used to play with myself was to go to Eden and see if I could get that one badge that had a line of level 50+ Devouring earth guarding it, without getting killed. They had +Perception, so the answer was usually no.  8)

The loss of CoX meant the loss of my main source of stress-relief.

At least once a week I load into ICON and just fly around. It makes me feel a tiny bit better. And as I have said before, just flying around in ICON is still more fun than any game I have tried since. Isnt that sad.

My Bane Spider, lord of all he surveys in Warburg. [p.s. Picturetrail, you suck.]

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Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Achilles6 on December 11, 2013, 10:53:49 PM
And as I have said before, just flying around in ICON is still more fun than any game I have tried since. Isnt that sad.

same here...nothing comes close. I'm very "meh" about any other game I try to play.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: CoyoteSeven on December 12, 2013, 12:03:05 AM
I'm kinda curious, would Icon have worked when the game was still live?
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Tubbius on December 12, 2013, 12:14:11 AM
Thanks, folks, for the relief in knowing that the legalities have been addressed.  I might just try this out yet once my semester is over next week.

I have too much work right now to spend the rest of the night tearful over missing CoH.  :(
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Codewalker on December 12, 2013, 02:04:48 AM
I'm kinda curious, would Icon have worked when the game was still live?

Yes, though in its current form, it would have been a pain to maintain as the code offsets would change with each patch.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Nyghtshade on December 12, 2013, 03:05:51 AM
Just out of curiosity, how does one manage to fly when loading in through the Icon program? 

And if there any other travel powers available, how does one access them?

Is it possible to load the "Holiday Rocket Pack" and use that?
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Codewalker on December 12, 2013, 03:37:36 AM
Press 1 to toggle flight on and off. It isn't so much a travel power as just telling the engine that you're flying (you might say it's a state of mind).

The commands and their key bindings are documented in the patch notes, but they're probably easier to find on the wiki page (http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Titan_Icon#How_to_Operate) since they're all on one place.

See my answer to your third question here (http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,7238.msg135948.html#msg135948).
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: MWRuger on January 08, 2014, 06:40:01 PM
It's a fast fly too.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Inkitgee on January 15, 2014, 11:06:42 AM
I think what I miss the most is just being able to play the game.  I came to CoH during the times I couldn't stand WoW and then ultimately left WoW to remain at CoH.  I was able to meet my real life friends and family there and play with them, have logical conversations with people I didn't even know... it was just nice.

Even though I have it,  I miss actually hearing the music of CoH while playing the game.  Music has to be the biggest trigger of memories for me so when I hear the melodies of Paragon, it sends me reeling and wishing I had spent more time on the game than I did. 

I also have a CoH playlist that I listened to when I didn't have the background music on so even if I hear just one song, I get a bit agitated. 

I also still have this problem... I keep asking my bud if she wants to get on City of Heroes.  I don't catch myself until after I said it and we both give a sad look.

I freaking miss that game, man!
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: MWRuger on January 15, 2014, 05:20:12 PM
Yeah, You said it. I miss my crew, my game and my characters. It really helped during a few tough times and it really would help to be able to play again.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Azrael on January 15, 2014, 07:55:07 PM
It's a fast fly too.

It's great to fly that fast.  Faster than 'Turbo' Flight I wonder? 

Cool to be able to fly over the Hollows so quickly without the dreary slowness of 1 SO slotted flight. :P

Azrael.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: LadyShin on January 21, 2014, 04:57:59 PM
Phew...I'm still homesick.

I miss staring down from the tops of the skyscrapers around the perimeter of Atlas Park while the mysterious blimp drifts slowly by.

I miss gazing up  in wonder at the colossal statues off the shore of Peregrine Island.

I miss reflecting upon the monument erected in Galaxy City in rememberance of a fallen hero.

I miss cautiously making my way through the Night Ward, and suddenly stumbling on a little patch of brightness in the midst of eternal shadow.

I miss running up the seemingly endless gargantuan cables of a mile-long bridge on my way to save the Terra-Volta reactor.

Surprisingly, I also miss the quirky, airheaded, often hotheaded brainless verbal eruptions from the young heroine known as Flambeaux - admit it, you do too.  ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9k-k8609go
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: johnrobey on January 22, 2014, 12:57:18 PM
Greetings to Illusionss, LadyShin, and everyone.  Yeah, I agree with the sentiments expressed, from things we loved to not finding other MMO's enjoyable, to finding ICON of some consolation.  I am just saying hello since it seems I only log into Titan Network sporadically now.  Still hoping though.  /em holdtorch
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Risha on January 23, 2014, 03:49:00 AM
Another BAD first for me.  My editor wanted cover ideas for a book and for the first time in years I couldn't show a character in a landscape I thought would be appropriate (no, I'm still not able to technically handle getting into settings via icon/other...I will have to have time to follow detailed steps and make mistakes).  Yes, a first and I sure didn't like it.  :'(
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: dwturducken on January 23, 2014, 06:41:52 PM
A few like-minded folks here:

http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/01/23/the-think-tank-what-past-or-future-mmo-do-you-wish-you-could-pl/
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: johnrobey on January 23, 2014, 06:59:06 PM
I am always glad when City of Heroes is mentioned in online gaming magazines.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: dwturducken on January 23, 2014, 08:24:44 PM
I was struck by the lack of comment at all from Eliot. He has always been kind to the game, even if he wasn't as vocally opposed to the closure. I was just coming to the realization that we haven't seen a recent "A Mild-Mannered Reporter" column. (Correction: there was one just after New Years. Not sure how I missed it, since I check their "front page" every day...)
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Thunder Glove on January 24, 2014, 07:35:46 AM
"A Mild-Mannered Reporter" has been scaled way back to a monthly column that just gives short overviews of what's happening in all the existing superhero MMOs.  It's been that way since last May: http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/06/05/a-mild-mannered-reporter-rounding-up-mays-superhero-news/

Belated edit: "A Mild-Mannered Reporter" actually got scaled back even further - in that there hasn't been one since January.  (I write this edit in October, 2014)  Eliot is still busy, though, with a new semi-regular column The Mog Log, which talks about FF11 and FF14 the way he used to talk about CoH, plus lots of individual stories. (And I do mean "lots")
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: LaughingAlex on January 24, 2014, 06:24:03 PM
Every developer has been saying city of heroes should not have been shut down pretty much, it was deeply bothering to them that NCSoft did that.  It's no surprise they mention it.  NCSoft really needs to take the "hint" so to speak but cannot take a hint.

I agree with Eliot saying that nothing is very bad.  I honestly blame CO's community for that as much as I blame the devs though.

Edited, deleted other post.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Eoraptor on January 24, 2014, 07:54:17 PM
I want my damned game back.

that's all there is too it.  >:(
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Azrael on January 24, 2014, 09:06:20 PM
I want my damned game back.

that's all there is too it.  >:(

:/

*nods understanding.

Azrael.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Devil_Boy on January 28, 2014, 05:54:41 PM
Don't think I've want it more than now..don't know what you've got till it's gone ..seriously has a lot of meaning
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: LadyVamp on January 29, 2014, 04:36:53 PM
I want my damned game back.

that's all there is too it.  >:(

+1

Damn straight.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: healix on January 30, 2014, 09:16:24 PM
Very few things in my life I ever missed more...
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Hyperstrike on January 30, 2014, 11:03:20 PM
You got further than I did.  I didn't even download icon.exe.  Couldn't bring myself to even try.  I really can't re-enter that world without all of you.

Those wounds run pretty deep.

Sorry about the late reply on this.  But my sick mind inserted "Over Macho Grande" in there...
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Eoraptor on January 31, 2014, 07:34:18 PM
No, we'll never be over Macho Grande
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: LadyVamp on February 02, 2014, 06:13:23 PM
Sorry about the late reply on this.  But my sick mind inserted "Over Macho Grande" in there...

Always nice to run into fellow Airplane fans. 
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: LaughingAlex on February 04, 2014, 08:59:21 PM
I miss the game to and still hope someday the game will get back up on it's feet.  It just feels that there has been a hole that cannot be filled when it comes to gaming for me.  Champions online doesn't really do it for me, DC Universe Online to me isn't a true rpg(because of the trinity problem, honestly every mmorpg is like a team fortress wannabe), so that fails to fill the void to.

Fact of the matter is, city of heroes defeated the holy trinity and it did it properly and because of that, to me, it was a truer rpg than any other mmorpg.  You weren't pidgin-holed anywhere and you were still encouraged to come up with a wildly different variety of play you just do not see in mmorpgs.  And it had it's positive quirks and it retained it's identity.  Other MMORPGS get cornered into a team-fortress wannabe game that pidgin-holes people in teams to doing exclusively one thing rather than a wide variety of things.  Someone only healing or exclusively only using a very small selection of attacks or only flipping the finger or exclusivey using only a couple of overly situational crowd control abilities to me, is not freedom.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Illusionss on February 12, 2014, 03:57:38 AM
Now I know just how Zod and Co. felt, wandering around the galaxy in their one little ship looking for some ribs to kick, home planet blasted to smithereens and they were never going to set foot on it again. Longing for something that never could be, wanting to turn back time. Home, loved ones, culture, science, even their worst enemies: all gone into the void and nothing left except ashes and ruins and longing that could never be assuaged. Because home was gone forever.

I would like to activate the World Engine right over NCSoft's headquarters. [Preferably while Superman is busy doing something else.]

The depth and duration of my distress more than a year later is very shocking to me. Its like Im missing a body part.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: houtex on February 12, 2014, 05:09:54 AM
Always nice to run into fellow Airplane fans. 

Truthfully, I like to avoid them.  I mean, it really kinda hurts when we smack into each other.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: johnrobey on February 12, 2014, 05:33:13 PM
Now I know just how Zod and Co. felt, wandering around the galaxy in their one little ship looking for some ribs to kick, home planet blasted to smithereens and they were never going to set foot on it again. Longing for something that never could be, wanting to turn back time. Home, loved ones, culture, science, even their worst enemies: all gone into the void and nothing left except ashes and ruins and longing that could never be assuaged. Because home was gone forever.

I would like to activate the World Engine right over NCSoft's headquarters. [Preferably while Superman is busy doing something else.]

The depth and duration of my distress more than a year later is very shocking to me. Its like Im missing a body part.

*sympathies, Illusionss*  I am sorry for that, but I sure do understand it.  Even after one has grown accustomed to the loss, the sense of loss persists.

I should post this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayJLlQhcK0I in the "What Are You Listening To?" thread, since your post inspired me to listen (once again) to the theme from Firefly.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Devil_Boy on February 12, 2014, 09:13:43 PM
*sympathies, Illusionss*
I should post this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayJLlQhcK0I in the "What Are You Listening To?" thread, since your post inspired me to listen (once again) to the theme from Firefly.

yess a firefly thats it .. started listening to it and I immediately recognized it but couldnt remember what it was from then i read the rest of your post .. doh **facepalm**
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: johnrobey on February 13, 2014, 12:06:45 AM
Hi, Devil_Boy;  I hope you are having a good/better day today.   I like how on Titan we are all united in our love for CoH and desire to bring it back.    I think the CoH Community has done really well, considering.  I continue to hope that one of Task Force Hail Mary will in time be successful, or that SCoRE is a success, and that at minimum one or more of the Plan Z projects will launch in a year or less.  I certainly wish we had our game back--but then I wish a lot of things.  Until then, while I don't hang out and post to Titan Network forums at anything like the rate I did right after server shutdown, nonetheless, /em holdtorch.  Have a great day!   :)
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Tubbius on February 26, 2014, 03:00:15 AM
Just missing City a bit tonight while working on rhetorical precis final drafts from my students.

Times like this, I'd host a costume contest in Atlas Park on Justice, usually getting folks to do silly things while competing, like hanging fishing poles over the back of the platform to "fish" in the water there.  Man, I miss the game.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Triplash on February 26, 2014, 03:59:08 AM
usually getting folks to do silly things while competing, like hanging fishing poles over the back of the platform to "fish" in the water there.

Man, those sound like some contests I'd have loved attending :D

One day, my friends. It might be in a different city, but we'll fly and punch things and stand around looking funny have costume contests again.

/e holdtorch
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: OzonePrime on February 26, 2014, 12:29:20 PM
/em holdtorch
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: HeatSpike1 on February 26, 2014, 02:44:51 PM
I can't seem to stop planning new builds in mids hero designer, and then heading over to Titan icon to create the character. Body, costume, powers, weapons, animation fxs.... And then entering paragon city or the rogue isles. There's always a little part of me that still has hope that once I enter, I'll be greeted by other players and able to play the game and it's full content.

*sigh*  :( I miss coh
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: CoyoteSeven on March 03, 2014, 10:03:31 AM
Once I finish developing and then building my time machine, I have plans to pull Commodore and Atari from the hands of those who flew them into ground. Through careful planning and martial prowess (as well as knowledge of the future), I will combine them into something bigger and better than Microsoft and Nintendo combined.

So that by the time City of Heroes comes along, and they're looking for a publisher and a much needed infusion of cash to get their project off the ground, I will be there at the right place and at the right time. NCSoft will never have a chance to even enter the picture. And CoH will remain online until the end of time.

It's my dream, so I make up whatever I want. :D
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Drauger9 on March 03, 2014, 11:31:29 AM
Quote
Once I finish developing and then building my time machine, I have plans to pull Commodore and Atari from the hands of those who flew them into ground. Through careful planning and martial prowess (as well as knowledge of the future), I will combine them into something bigger and better than Microsoft and Nintendo combined.

So that by the time City of Heroes comes along, and they're looking for a publisher and a much needed infusion of cash to get their project off the ground, I will be there at the right place and at the right time. NCSoft will never have a chance to even enter the picture. And CoH will remain online until the end of time.

It's my dream, so I make up whatever I want.

LOL I could see Posi going to his mail box. Opening it up with a letter in it saying. "I'll fund your studio and City of Heroes" "Love the future!"

On a side note, if you happen to need a toaster for your time machine. I have one handy. :P
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: batqueen on March 03, 2014, 07:16:28 PM
Those toaster time machines don't always work so well. ( DOH! )
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Eoraptor on March 05, 2014, 06:00:08 PM
how about the doritos ones?
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Twisted Toon on March 05, 2014, 07:30:10 PM
From what I've seen, the Doritos Time Machines only go into the future, and not Back from the Future. Although, if you could get a Hot Tub Time Machine, that might be interesting.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Taceus Jiwede on March 05, 2014, 08:53:51 PM
I have a time machine that you can use.  But it only works at normal speed.  So you stand in a box for 2 years and you come out 2 years later.  Interested?
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: HeatSpike1 on March 06, 2014, 12:09:16 AM
I have a time machine that you can use.  But it only works at normal speed.  So you stand in a box for 2 years and you come out 2 years later.  Interested?

I'll take it!

Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: JanessaVR on March 06, 2014, 03:27:37 AM
I've remarked before that I know lots of time travelers - namely, everyone.  We're all traveling into the future at a rate of 1 second per second.  It's slow and a one-way trip, but it's time travel.   ;D
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: healix on March 06, 2014, 09:53:30 PM
I have a special machine the size of a pocket watch that can zap me anywhere in time. I am setting it for 100 years from now, and here I go.
I'm back....want to see it again?
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Twisted Toon on March 06, 2014, 10:38:39 PM
I have a special machine the size of a pocket watch that can zap me anywhere in time. I am setting it for 100 years from now, and here I go.
I'm back....want to see it again?

I blinked. I didn't get to see it.  :(
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: healix on March 06, 2014, 10:48:04 PM
Ok....there. Want to see it again?
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Twisted Toon on March 07, 2014, 03:49:43 AM
Ok....there. Want to see it again?

Umm....

Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Cinnder on March 08, 2014, 05:10:39 AM
 :)

Speaking of time travel, there have, of course, been many discussions of the problems with its portrayal in fiction, but one topic I've never seen mentioned is the whole "we can move you in time, but not in physical location" paradigm.  Books or films sometimes use this to mandate that the time traveller who enters a machine in New York 2014 will come out in New York 1814, for example, and not Egypt, Peru, etc.

But surely, if one takes into account the rotation of the Earth, the revolution of the Earth around the sun, the motion of our solar system inside our galaxy, and the motion of our galaxy in the universe, the chances that any time traveller would end up even close to Earth are miniscule.  Who knows, maybe the cold dead heart of space is littered with the frozen bodies of erstwhile time travellers...
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Eoraptor on March 09, 2014, 12:49:30 AM
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Super Firebug on March 09, 2014, 01:43:32 AM
:)

Speaking of time travel, there have, of course, been many discussions of the problems with its portrayal in fiction, but one topic I've never seen mentioned is the whole "we can move you in time, but not in physical location" paradigm.  Books or films sometimes use this to mandate that the time traveller who enters a machine in New York 2014 will come out in New York 1814, for example, and not Egypt, Peru, etc.

But surely, if one takes into account the rotation of the Earth, the revolution of the Earth around the sun, the motion of our solar system inside our galaxy, and the motion of our galaxy in the universe, the chances that any time traveller would end up even close to Earth are miniscule.  Who knows, maybe the cold dead heart of space is littered with the frozen bodies of erstwhile time travellers...

The TV show, "Seven Days", addressed this. During a seven-day backstep, Parker had to guide the chronosphere to keep it near Earth, in the hopes of landing it somewhere close to where he needed to be.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Cinnder on March 09, 2014, 06:39:22 AM
heh, I wrote a little ficlet about this very think a few months back. guy sent his pocket watch five minutes into the past... but couldn't find it... six weeks later it turn up orbiting the moon.

Brilliant!!  Thank you for addressing that.  You've quelled a concern I've had for years.  Nice work!

[P.S. The editor in me can't help but point out that "forty" doesn't have a "u" in it.]
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: CoyoteSeven on March 10, 2014, 06:42:37 AM
The TV show, "Seven Days", addressed this. During a seven-day backstep, Parker had to guide the chronosphere to keep it near Earth, in the hopes of landing it somewhere close to where he needed to be.

A certain Sam Beckett didn't have this problem. In fact, he worked around it quite cleverly. Though he did sort of have a few other problems with his method...
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Graydar on March 10, 2014, 01:40:17 PM
I just had a dream about City of Heroes. It was back with new zones and an expansion on the ordinary lvl 50, to lvl 55.  :gonk:
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Felderburg on March 11, 2014, 02:10:42 PM
I don't know about the location problem... it seems to me, that because the general movement of planetary bodies is so consistent, a sufficiently powerful computer would be able to calculate the exact location of a certain spot at various points of time.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Illusionss on March 13, 2014, 08:34:37 PM
Some twit was in the CoX channel in Champions yesterday, telling everyone how stupid they were for missing their characters and if we had read the EULA, we would feel lucky NCSnot allowed us to keep our characters as long as they did, "because they could have taken them away anytime!" Then he told us that if we mourned our dead characters we "would never grow as writers."

I don't consider rolling an alt to bestow the title of "author" upon me, but whatever. This person "only played an alt until it served its purpose" and then he was done with it. Isnt that special! At that moment I really missed Assassin Strike.

Wow, I cant even. If someone wants to play a game with no emotional attachments to their character, that is their right... but this does not mean everyone else is wrong. I did wonder for a minute if this person owned any pets, and if so how they fared. Or if he had a significant other. If so, I kind of feel sorry for them, and or scared for them because that guy lets sentimentality stand in the way of NOTHING.

Then someone mentioned Wildstar, and there was a most satisfying outburst of rage from just about everyone else over NC and their treatment of customers.

So I still miss CoH. So do many others.  8)
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Tubbius on March 14, 2014, 01:42:21 AM
I just had a dream about City of Heroes. It was back with new zones and an expansion on the ordinary lvl 50, to lvl 55.  :gonk:

Plug me into your head!  I want to plaaaaaaay.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: LadyShin on March 14, 2014, 04:10:28 AM
Guys, I backdoored into that guy's head. Just completed another Hami raid.

it was AWESOME.  8)
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: JanessaVR on March 14, 2014, 05:12:31 AM
I keep hoping to stop having to work 14 to 24 hour days and finally get a chance to sort through and upload my 2TB of CoH recorded gameplay.  Your post reminded me of that as one of the things I saved was a full Hami raid.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Drauger9 on March 14, 2014, 07:54:46 AM
Quote
Your post reminded me of that as one of the things I saved was a full Hami raid.

Oh god, I'd love to watch that when you get the chance to upload it. That was one of my favorite things to do in CoH.

Though I only did about 5-6 of them. :(
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Illusionss on March 14, 2014, 10:06:32 AM
Hami raids were the most boring stand-around-and-wait-for-45-minutes thing in CoH.

With that said, I would happily queue for one right this minute.

You know what I really miss is the Underground trial, with a bunch of Tier 2 and 3s. Maaaaaaan...... steamrollin' everything in sight, on the most beautiful maps ever.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Tubbius on March 14, 2014, 05:17:23 PM
My favorite stuff in City had to be the Winter Events.  I got into the game in August 2008, and the game hit the Winter Event for that year within the first few months of my gameplay.  I loved it and was thrilled to see it happen every year after.  Having Tubbius fly around Atlas Park in his Santa costume collecting presents was delightful.  :)
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Eoraptor on March 14, 2014, 05:43:02 PM
I want my halloween back! ToTing... hunting the giant pumpkins! the howls of werewolves and random zombie incursions!
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: healix on March 14, 2014, 05:59:36 PM
I hated Snaptooth (Valentine event) with a passion, but would give anything to ket stomped by him again.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: JanessaVR on March 14, 2014, 06:35:30 PM
I have Winter Events (Winter Lord and all holiday missions), Halloween (ToT-ing, Whispered Rumor mish, and Banners Event), and some trials recorded as well.  Not sure about Valentine's - except for final Snaptooth mission - that one I have.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: LadyVamp on March 14, 2014, 11:55:43 PM
I could certainly go for a hami raid but 40+ mins of stand around?  no sir.  took us about 20 mins to get it done.  We did no retreat raids!

Then the usual Reichman TF after and CoP before.

Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Little David on March 15, 2014, 04:50:59 AM
Some twit was in the CoX channel in Champions yesterday, telling everyone how stupid they were for missing their characters and if we had read the EULA, we would feel lucky NCSnot allowed us to keep our characters as long as they did, "because they could have taken them away anytime!" Then he told us that if we mourned our dead characters we "would never grow as writers."

I imagine that attitude would go over really well with people in the comic books industry. (Not.)
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Drauger9 on March 15, 2014, 09:31:55 AM
I liked Hami raids more for the grouping, since I didn't group much when I played. It was nice seeing 10+ people doing the drum dance on the safety rock. LOL! Then everyone working together to take hami down.

Quote
You know what I really miss is the Underground trial, with a bunch of Tier 2 and 3s. Maaaaaaan...... steamrollin' everything in sight, on the most beautiful maps ever.

I'll agree to that any day. :)
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Illusionss on March 15, 2014, 04:26:54 PM
I could certainly go for a hami raid but 40+ mins of stand around?  no sir.  took us about 20 mins to get it done.  We did no retreat raids!

The 45 minutes was not the amount of time that it took to do the raid. Most of my Hami experiences took place on Guardian, and were orchestrated by one particular SG. They would fool around for an hour building the league, and this was vastly annoying to those of us who wanted to just get things done.

Would do it again right now though, if I could. *sigh*
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: statesmanjr on March 15, 2014, 05:39:49 PM
I still get on City Of Heroes and just go through all the maps and take pictures.. I miss kicking Lord Recluse A55 in The Statesman Task Force With my Full Blown Incarnate Invul/Super Strength Statesman J.r...
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Peacemaker on March 16, 2014, 01:11:39 PM
I am really missing the art threads from the forums and seeing peoples new commissioned art or just pictures of the cool costumes they came up with for a character. 
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Azrael on March 19, 2014, 10:56:09 PM
I miss force fields, the energy, energy set, the water nova..., the electric Domi I had with 4 pets and a flawed 4.5 billion influence build with perma Domi and Hasten...(lament...), I miss beating on Council, I miss flying, I miss my devastating SS/Shield Brute with it's super fast super AoE devastation...I miss the character creator's vast horizon, I miss the early levels, mob hunting/street sweeping in the Hollows, Steel Canyon and Brickstown.  I miss...

...warehouse missions.  Duo-ing.  Back to back over lap defenders (tying soloing...shudders...*) with F.Fields...  I miss my Ice/Ice blastoller...(a revelation after the disappointing Ice/Rad controller...)

I miss the sound of the 'tell' reply button and it's yellow on black text.

I miss my Diamond hard Invul/Energy tanker.  Stacks of resist and loads of defence cap.  'ard was he.

I even miss the devastating sneaky Elec. stalker which I got to L42 on and the game ran out of time.

I don't miss the Carnie or Perez. :o

Azrael.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Twisted Toon on March 20, 2014, 03:28:09 AM

I don't miss the Carnie or Perez. :o

Agent Standin took his Endurance back from the Carnies after he savagely beat them down. Stygian Circle was a very nice power.

Of course, Standin hated fighting ghosts or drones or anything else that failed to leave a corpse for him to drain.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Hyperius X on April 16, 2014, 02:49:24 PM
I've tried playing other MMO's but my heart just hasn't been into it.  I suppose I should have just moved onto another game and accept the fact that nothing last's forever, but I certainly will not settle for anything less. I look forward to the day that I am able to customize my character's and play out my childhood fantasies as a Hero with a Cap. I guess, I read way too many comics as kid.  All that to say I miss COH too. :-(
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Botzo on April 17, 2014, 03:29:08 AM
Made me kinda sad the other day when I put my music on shuffle everything, only to pull into my driveway exactly when the little mission complete jingle came up. I ended up spending the next day at work trying to figure out how I could make a CoH/CoV brawler in the vein of the old Xmen beatemup. Maybe someday. No matter how much I say I want to be done with this game, I don't think I ever could.

We gotta break the game outta the Zig. 8)
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Senkan on April 18, 2014, 02:02:57 PM
You know things are bad when you miss farming.  Also miss crafting and going to WW to try to find a deal on a couple purples I need to complete my build.

Was looking at a CoH facebook page I'm subscribed to and was thinking of my Traps Defender and Bot/Traps Mastermind that I only got to play at level 50 for a couple months.  Blah!
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: johnrobey on April 20, 2014, 07:46:03 PM
You know things are bad when you miss farming.  Also miss crafting and going to WW to try to find a deal on a couple purples I need to complete my build.

Was looking at a CoH facebook page I'm subscribed to and was thinking of my Traps Defender and Bot/Traps Mastermind that I only got to play at level 50 for a couple months.  Blah!

I don't think that's bad.  Those were aspects of City of Heroes I engaged in and enjoyed (though I admit I was only a very occasional farmer.)  What I don't miss are mapserver disconnections and frame-freezing lag and/or rubberbanding--though at least rubberbanding had the potential to be humorous and non-lethal.

/em holdtorch
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: LadyShin on June 02, 2014, 11:44:39 AM
I still remember that day I flew by the city hall in atlas park, getting ready to queue up for an incarnate trial...when I noticed a bunch of noobs standing around strangely quietly,

(https://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp36/Sheryl_Knowles/NexusProtest.jpg)

got into Ouroboros,

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=img4.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20071022190532%2Fparagon%2Fimages%2Fd%2Fde%2FOuroborosBase1.jpg)

and someone in my super group mentioned something about NCSoft shutting down. it got my attention but I dismissed it as a joke at first.

Till I heard other people on world chat talking about it.

How I felt at that moment...

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.dvandom.com%2FCoX%2Ftour07.JPG)
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Peacemaker on June 19, 2014, 03:43:37 AM
I was watching reruns of Big Bang theory tonight and Leonard and Sheldon were talking about when they play online games they always play good guys.  Leonard makes the comment "when we play city of heroes we're always heroes."  Made me a little nostalgic.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: LadyShin on July 18, 2014, 08:16:19 PM
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=nerdfitti.com%2Fimages%2Fcoh%2Fcaptainsweatpants.png)

when you see it...
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: LadyShin on July 18, 2014, 08:28:28 PM
I still get on City Of Heroes and just go through all the maps and take pictures.. I miss kicking Lord Recluse A55 in The Statesman Task Force With my Full Blown Incarnate Invul/Super Strength Statesman J.r...

 I miss kicking Lord Recluse A55 in the Emperor Cole arc.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Fanta on July 20, 2014, 05:20:20 AM
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=nerdfitti.com%2Fimages%2Fcoh%2Fcaptainsweatpants.png)

when you see it...

Yay, Captain Sweatpants!
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Eoraptor on July 20, 2014, 05:31:31 PM
*grubles* the closed sign is way to subliminal for me right now
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: CrewDog130 on July 21, 2014, 05:25:55 AM
Hi Everyone,

CoH was my first MMO and I don't think any other MMO can compare. I really miss the people I met online and I feel that CoH had the best online gaming community, period.

I also miss how much fun it was to create heroes and villains with back stories to RP with. I would spend hours looking at all the many toons running around and reading their descriptions. There were so many creative and amusing concepts in this game.

I've created some hero concepts that I'm planning on creating my own graphic novel with because I fell head-over-heels in love with them and can't let them go away quietly. I current playing CO and I just don't as excited by the toons I create. Co is just missing that "thing" that made CoH so good.

I can't believe how good this game was and hom much I miss it. I think I'm going to go to bed and cry myself to sleep now.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Power Gamer on July 21, 2014, 05:50:35 AM
Hi Everyone,

CoH was my first MMO and I don't think any other MMO can compare. I really miss the people I met online and I feel that CoH had the best online gaming community, period.

I also miss how much fun it was to create heroes and villains with back stories to RP with. I would spend hours looking at all the many toons running around and reading their descriptions. There were so many creative and amusing concepts in this game.

I've created some hero concepts that I'm planning on creating my own graphic novel with because I fell head-over-heels in love with them and can't let them go away quietly. I current playing CO and I just don't as excited by the toons I create. Co is just missing that "thing" that made CoH so good.

I can't believe how good this game was and hom much I miss it. I think I'm going to go to bed and cry myself to sleep now.

Good grief! We must have been separated at birth!
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Aelinarius on July 21, 2014, 06:08:27 AM
I miss playing every one of my 20+, over contemplated avatars. Several of them never made it past level 10, but I still remember what I had planned to do with every character I made. I had no main.

Most especially, I miss those days when a new design for an awesome character would hit me, and I'd spend hours coming up with a brilliant costume and the path my character would take. Some time after finishing, I'd be fired up and ready to hit up Atlas Park. Some of my best friends in-game came from those lowby team runs in the sewers.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: mrultimate on August 01, 2014, 09:13:17 PM
It's going to be bad for me this weekend. Going to see GOTG and I know I'll be missing CoH even more afterward. If it were not for looking at cat memes I'd hardly need a computer.......LOL
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Carnage Critter on August 04, 2014, 03:33:51 AM
The atlas park music.  Man I just loved that piece of music :)  I fire up Icon every so often just to pop in and hear the music, he he.  I have the music files somewhere as well, but not sure where I put them atm.

The other part I miss is my little "empire" I had essentially built up.  I had insane amounts of characters, level 50's, bases, coverage on every server.

Lastly the biggest thing I miss is playing with my kids.  They loved the game too and it was a joy to share it with them.  My daughter grew up with it for 8 years of her life, lol.  Thats something special.

Its such a tremendous heartache that it was all wiped out, and such joys ended.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: LadyShin on June 07, 2015, 09:23:35 PM
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ic.pics.livejournal.com%2Fkwsapphire%2F1057051%2F356194%2F356194_original.jpg)

COH lives on! Reminds me of those office-raid missions..
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Blackout on June 07, 2015, 10:04:42 PM
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ic.pics.livejournal.com%2Fkwsapphire%2F1057051%2F356194%2F356194_original.jpg)

COH lives on! Reminds me of those office-raid missions..

Oh, I loved the office missions just for that really spooky atmospheric music you got at the beginning of each one.
That and the map layouts posed and interesting challenge.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: FatherXmas on June 18, 2015, 05:25:26 AM
Heard Evanescence's "Bring Me to Life" on the way home tonight.  That song is forever tied to this game for me as one of the first MV for the game.  Thank you DJ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC5lRcxdAyE
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: MaidMercury on June 18, 2015, 10:24:28 PM
Hello everyone,
I'm currently playing SP mode on the Pocket D ski slopes. Two words, First word: Nostalgia! Second word: Sadness :(

how do you do that? I tested out Icon and start in Atlus....just ran it now and got sentimental. :-*
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: pogoman on June 19, 2015, 01:29:47 AM
I sorely miss it as well. I would LOVE to change the name of "Save COH Radio" to "COH Radio" or "We saved COH Radio" or something similar.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Paragon Avenger on June 19, 2015, 06:01:19 AM
I was watching reruns of Big Bang theory tonight and Leonard and Sheldon were talking about when they play online games they always play good guys.  Leonard makes the comment "when we play city of heroes we're always heroes."  Made me a little nostalgic.

Yeah, when I play CoH I always pay the prostitutes.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Leandro on June 19, 2015, 06:06:16 AM
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: blue storm on June 19, 2015, 08:38:01 AM
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Paragon Avenger on June 20, 2015, 02:20:55 AM
SoonTM, about time.
Man, I loved City of ...
But be aware, we might all be starting over from scratch.
Oh to be a level 1 again.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Brightfires on June 20, 2015, 10:15:31 PM
There's a lot to be said for starting fresh, with a whole new clean slate...
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Felderburg on June 22, 2015, 12:41:37 AM
I am eagerly waiting the moment I will finally put out of cryo-sleep my alts I carefully saved with Titan Sentinel!

Just gonna throw it out there that it is very unlikely you will be able to use Sentinel files for any official restart of the game. They're good references, sure, but were always intended for use in private servers, if any came about.
Title: Re: I miss CoH
Post by: Surelle on June 24, 2015, 12:08:53 AM
Just gonna throw it out there that it is very unlikely you will be able to use Sentinel files for any official restart of the game. They're good references, sure, but were always intended for use in private servers, if any came about.

I wouldn't call "Soon" any sort of official restart of the game though.   ;)  And as Titan network made that backup program, I'd be surprised if it didn't function with anything they're working on.