Oh look! We saved an MMO. Just not ours....=(

[Turjan]

The same goes for others I knew. We pretty much just stopped and had to ask ourselves if we'd have had the courage to speak up and do something that we sincerely thought was wrong. How would we have reacted if Tabula Rasa players invaded CoH, telling us how sub-par the game is, and how badly they wanted their old one back? Sure, we agreed it blows, but we never cared for the game, we're not affected, so why do we care?

I think Jaguar is right on this. I believe I would've contentedly continued to play City of Heroes until the inevitable hit us, only to finally go... "Hey wait a minute!", but years too late.

That's the key here, now. Nobody feels threatened. At the very most, there's idle and inactive pity towards the people that were affected, and that's it.

Evocative words indeed there Mako. They remind of a famous quote by pastor Martin Niemoller concerning how long it took the people in 1930s Germany to realise what was happening to their country :-

First they came for the communists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

    Then they came for the socialists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

    Then they came for me,
    and there was no one left to speak for me.

Now, obviously we're not facing jackbooted, uniformed thugs from NCsoft dragging people out of their beds at 3 in the morning (at least, not that I know of... *glances uneasily around*) but the psychology remains the same. Generally speaking, the majority of people are very slow to react to something that doesn't seem to concern them directly.

Our challenge as gamers is that games tend be like sports or musical tastes in that they very quickly - and very firmly - form cliques out of their participants in an almost tribal way. And it takes something pretty special to unite a bunch of tribes under the same banner, and then manage to keep them there long enough to win a war.

[MysticFortune]

Where'd I leave my copy of Guild Wars... I think it's time I smash it with a hammer...

[JaguarX]

First they came for the communists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

    Then they came for the socialists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

    Then they came for me,
    and there was no one left to speak for me.

I want to use that as a sig. but it might be too long. Yeah, in RL and games I seen this.


First they came for Auto Assault,
    and I didn't speak out because I didnt play Auto Assault.

    Then they came for Exteel,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasnt at home in Exteel.

    Then they came for the Tabula Rasa,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't part of Tabula Rasa.

    Then they came for COX,
    and there was no one left to speak for me.

[onyxprincess]

You're talking big...

My first MMO was GW1 9 years ago, expanded it with all the ExpandAlones but never got the EOTN Expansion Pack. And I still love to play it on occasion. 2 or so months ago I got GW2, nice game but it has a lot of WoW and RuneScape influence in it (Needing to know crafting your own armors, weapons and clothes). That changes the landscape- and makes me uninstall that title. I still play GW1 because of the simplicity of it.

As to City of Heroes Freedom, we need to do a Full Court Press to bring it back in maintenance mode... or if anyone can purchase some servers in their parts of the country, get NCSoft to sell the game to us for hosting in a regional style (Northeast, ect.) That could see if it brings the game back to life!

[FatherXmas]

You're talking big...

My first MMO was GW1 9 years ago, expanded it with all the ExpandAlones but never got the EOTN Expansion Pack. And I still love to play it on occasion. 2 or so months ago I got GW2, nice game but it has a lot of WoW and RuneScape influence in it (Needing to know crafting your own armors, weapons and clothes). That changes the landscape- and makes me uninstall that title. I still play GW1 because of the simplicity of it.

As to City of Heroes Freedom, we need to do a Full Court Press to bring it back in maintenance mode... or if anyone can purchase some servers in their parts of the country, get NCSoft to sell the game to us for hosting in a regional style (Northeast, ect.) That could see if it brings the game back to life!

Honestly I don't think I've ever crafted my own armor in GW2, costs too much.  Much easier to use drops or buy what you want off the player market, which is mainly drops.