Oh look! We saved an MMO. Just not ours....=(

[Sugoi]

And the pessimist in me says we'll know that it was saved by ArenaNet when NCSoft axes their next old game.

[Memorandum]

[FatherXmas]

Posted on Sept 5, 2012.  So not really new info.

And now the site requires registration or knowledge of who you are.  Great.

[Empyrean]

Ok, so, I posted a similar thread to this one about a positive influence on the industry hopefully due to our efforts, but it was in regards to Champions Online rather than Guild Wars 1 or some other fantasy MMO, and I was immediately locked--unlike this very Guild Wars 1 thread. 

I know that the rationale is that I was locked because there was a discussion about this topic on the Champions forum, but I was actually talking about the exact same thing as this thread--the fact that that our efforts have possibly made a positive difference for another game. 

Honestly, it seems like the reason that there is a special Champions forum is just so that that game is walled off from general discussion as much as possible.

I know that there are  "Heroes and Villains" and "The Phoenix Project" in the works, but there is also Champions Online---and that is ok.  It seems like any other Superhero MMO is a touchy subject on these boards--which is understandable, I guess, but it's not really healthy.

I know I'll get flamed or banned or whatever for this, but--it isn't a zero sum game, and Champions isn't the enemy.  The healthier the Superhero MMO niche becomes, the better for all of us.  There is an old saying--the rising tide lifts all ships.

[FatherXmas]

We have a entire sub-board devoted to CO and I haven't seen anyone get up in arms about any other MMO, superhero genre or otherwise unless it's an NCSOFT product in which case it's discussed in the other games section where NCSOFT bashing on general principle is frowned upon.

That's the reason the CO threads here are locked with a notice about posting in the thread in CO's sub-board.

[Golden Girl]

Honestly, it seems like the reason that there is a special Champions forum is just so that that game is walled off from general discussion as much as possible.

To prevent infection.

[Empyrean]

To prevent infection.

FatherXmas, I really do understand your point, and I believe that you feel that way, but Golden Girl just obligingly illustrated my point.

I just don't think this attitude is healthy and I think it is more part of the culture here than anyone wants to publicly admit... except for GG.

Anywho, nuff said.

[Golden Girl]

This is a City of Heroes fan site - we need to maintain a certain standard of quality.

[Tacitala]

certain standard of quality.

How about not acting like a facetious snot?  Is that a standard of quality we can live up to?

[Golden Girl]

Standards of quality are important - and untill enough gamers demand better standards of quality, then corporate scum like PWE and their fellow scammers will continue to pollute the market with their garbage.

[Stormsurge]

I think anyone who wants to work with NCSoft now realizes that they have to cover their asses first. I have no doubt in my mind that NCsoft would like nothing more then to shutdown GW1. Too bad for them that ArenaNet seems to be smart enough to know how to deal with them.

[Aggelakis]

Standards of quality are important - and untill enough gamers demand better standards of quality, then corporate scum like PWE and their fellow scammers will continue to pollute the market with their garbage.

PWE has some pretty great games. Your repeated, vociferous, unprompted toxicity is bordering on inappropriate.

[FatherXmas]

FatherXmas, I really do understand your point, and I believe that you feel that way, but Golden Girl just obligingly illustrated my point.

I just don't think this attitude is healthy and I think it is more part of the culture here than anyone wants to publicly admit... except for GG.

Anywho, nuff said.

And that's why we have the Other Games board where she can't come in and slap people around for mentioning anything that's not the one true MMO or it's self declared children.  But outside that board she will gourd you and any game you mention and their devs and publishers. 

And if you really want to see get really nasty, suggest that Wildstar or GW2 are pretty fun games.  But wear you fireproof suit because it's going to get toasty.

[JaguarX]

And that's why we have the Other Games board where she can't come in and slap people around for mentioning anything that's not the one true MMO or it's self declared children.  But outside that board she will gourd you and any game you mention and their devs and publishers. 

And if you really want to see get really nasty, suggest that Wildstar or GW2 are pretty fun games.  But wear you fireproof suit because it's going to get toasty.

And that is very sad.

Like some talking out the two sides of the mouth. One side saying "We are accepting laid back mature community." The other side saying stuff that is anything but. Sad.

I do get Empyrean point, it shouldnt even have to be that way if the community is as accepting and mature as the ysay they are. But since it is that way, that means it is not the way they say they are.

[Golden Girl]

PWE has some pretty great games.

They have some great connections with gold farming operations - that's the only "great" thing about them.

[JaguarX]

They have some great connections with gold farming operations - that's the only "great" thing about them.

Ironically I seen more gold farmersi n COX than STO, NW and CO combined.

Not sure about the others. Are gold farmers bad in those other offerings of PWE outside the mentioned three?

[Aggelakis]

PWE has some pretty great games. Your repeated, vociferous, unprompted toxicity is bordering on inappropriate.

It's the second part of this post that's really important, GG. Please pay attention to the whole post instead of just what you're interested in. " "

[Empyrean]

Evidently, Golden Girl is undergoing an unfortunate secondary mutation, and becoming...

The Golden Troll!

Seriously, GG, you might want to think about how many people are going to want to play a game made by someone doing this kind of trolling.

[General Idiot]

Evidently, Golden Girl is undergoing an unfortunate secondary mutation, and becoming...

The Golden Troll!

Seriously, GG, you might want to think about how many people are going to want to play a game made by someone doing this kind of trolling.

No, she was that years ago. It's just slightly more obvious now.

[Quinch]

Can we all settle down a bit, please?