Jack Emmert re: CoH - "Tell NCsoft to call me"

Lightslinger · April 05, 2013, 11:34:42 AM

Quote from: Ironwolf on April 05, 2013, 11:23:53 AM
Lightslinger, you aren't wrong.

I am responding to your call and agree. I want to actually put my money where my mouth is at. We have emailed folks, sent regular mail, sent masks and even had people start working to restore the game.

I want to start an advertising campaign to get the game back. Spend a little money and if we can get some banner designs and a video(s) to link to even better. I don't want to take other people's money but I am willing to donate my own. My skills are not in the making of videos or artwork (a man has to know his limitations) - I do however have some spare cash I have been saving to start a server. If however I can spend some to get the game back even better.

And your suggestion and work so far toward that is probably the only real reason I'm going to continue with the Call to Action if Titan will have it, the ultimate goal of us advertising is HUGE and I want to help coordinate that.

And I just really needed to vent some frustrations and thought a place other than the Call to Action, since it was brought up anyway, was better for that. Do want to say though that several people have been very kind and supportive, you included, and I appreciate that.

saipaman · April 05, 2013, 12:05:15 PM

Another bonus to advertising is that it is sure to generate another round of stories in the game press.

Lightslinger · April 05, 2013, 12:27:42 PM

Yeah, correct me if I'm wrong but has a game community EVER ran ads against a publisher/ex-publisher before? Even at the height of the NGE scandal I never heard anything like that.

Ironwolf · April 05, 2013, 12:37:47 PM

Don't get me wrong - I don't want any negative ads for my part. Positive relentless action towards our goal.

Jack Emmert spoke up and I fully intend to use that angle. NCSoft must agree and they won't desire to help us if we shed the light on them as the evil doer. If we shed the attention on them as the SAVIOR of the game passing our TORCHES back to Cryptic........

I would love to see a banner ad with Positron handing a Torch to Statesman, saying - We all know heroes never truly die.

Captain Electric · April 05, 2013, 12:50:15 PM

So...

I guess this rules out Statesman bursting through the NCSoft logo like the Kool-Aid Man?

Ironwolf · April 05, 2013, 12:52:34 PM

That would be cool as well! Not really disrespectful but fun :)

Not even NCSoft could contain the Statesman!

eabrace · April 05, 2013, 01:05:41 PM

Quote from: Captain Electric on April 05, 2013, 12:50:15 PM
So...

I guess this rules out Statesman bursting through the NCSoft logo like the Kool-Aid Man?

"Oh yeah!"

Greg Lloyd · April 05, 2013, 01:09:05 PM

I think these ads, if they ever go live, should appear to be a romantic theme -- stick with me on this -- they start like a love letter.

First banner reads: "Dearest NCSoft, I know we've reached a point where we can no longer live together..."

Second banner reads: "... but the result of our union shouldn't be taken from us. We want our beloved back."

Third banner. "Give us our world back."

Something like that.

Lightslinger · April 05, 2013, 03:00:46 PM

Quote from: Greg Lloyd on April 05, 2013, 01:09:05 PM
I think these ads, if they ever go live, should appear to be a romantic theme -- stick with me on this -- they start like a love letter.

First banner reads: "Dearest NCSoft, I know we've reached a point where we can no longer live together..."

Second banner reads: "... but the result of our union shouldn't be taken from us. We want our beloved back."

Third banner. "Give us our world back."

Something like that.

Pretty cute but we definitely have to keep it short, simple and attention grabbing considering an internet attention span is about as long -SQUIRREL

Ironwolf · April 05, 2013, 03:08:28 PM

Maybe a simple Flash banner showing the names of super heroes who have died and have risen from the grave to fight again, then Statesman slowly standing up and the message Click to #Savecoh and going to a video link of our best videos?

Yoru-hime · April 05, 2013, 03:55:35 PM

Quote from: Ironwolf on April 05, 2013, 03:08:28 PM
Maybe a simple Flash banner showing the names of super heroes who have died and have risen from the grave to fight again, then Statesman slowly standing up and the message Click to #Savecoh and going to a video link of our best videos?

Not a bad idea, but it may run afoul of various copyright gods. We'll have to be careful here, NCSoft is going to be hard-pressed to ignore us taking out banner ads on MMO sites, so giving them any grounds to file an IP complaint and kill it would be unwise.

Perhaps we should link the banner to a new petition (including said video link) asking Perfect World to make an effort to acquire CoH? A few thousand signatures could prove that the community still has legs, even after all this time?

And if a Paypal link goes up, I'll be glad to drop some cash towards an ad blitz.

Ironwolf · April 05, 2013, 04:22:32 PM

I don't think just a simple list of names would run afoul of copyright laws, especially since we aren't selling anything.

We have no product other than letting NCSoft and the MMO gods know - WE STILL LIVE! That last bit from John Carter of Mars (one of the first books I read at age 9).

Samuraiko · April 05, 2013, 06:32:47 PM

So this one is on my radar - I'm also trying to finish the 9th anniversary video for COH, so please bear with me, as I also hold down a full-time job and have a major project going on the sides on the weekends.

Michelle
aka
Samuraiko/Dark_Respite

Ironwolf · April 05, 2013, 06:35:41 PM

I would be more than happy to use the 9th anniversary video :)

In fact maybe we can get a page here with many of the videos all listed and tie it to a banner ad.

Samuraiko · April 05, 2013, 06:37:45 PM

Quote from: Ironwolf on April 05, 2013, 06:35:41 PM
I would be more than happy to use the 9th anniversary video :)

In fact maybe we can get a page here with many of the videos all listed and tie it to a banner ad.

http://cohtube.blogspot.com

Enjoy!

Michelle
aka
Samuraiko/Dark_Respite

antarcticaa · April 05, 2013, 07:41:58 PM

Quote from: Samuraiko on April 05, 2013, 06:37:45 PM
http://cohtube.blogspot.com

Enjoy!

Michelle
aka
Samuraiko/Dark_Respite

Really enjoyed the video tribute. Funny how many layers of thought went thru my brain as I watched. Everything from "I wanna do a raid/tf" to "I sure loved being able to change costumes" to a profound feeling of loss as once again video memories reminded us of our tangible loss. Thanks for taking the time to do these vids. We can all identify with VV's toons as we watch. We may be down but it's not over yet!

Keshka · April 07, 2013, 06:34:17 PM

Quote from: Cobra Man on April 01, 2013, 03:22:25 PM
I'm in if Jack can resurrect COH.

I was never into the whole Jack hate thing. I joined around i5 and all I saw was a guy that created CoH. From what I could read into ED, it was necessary to make CoH the hugely enjoyable game that it turned out to be.

You might even argue that the introduction of Incarnate powers detracted from the overall enjoyment of the game - or not as the case may be :)

If it did go ahead, I would be pushing strongly for Statesman to also get on the resurrection train.

I'm not going to derail this thread but I think the handling of the death of Statesman was an all time low from the devs.

ED was necessary, I didn't see the hate as justified, its just he poorly communicated it, from my understanding, but nonetheless. I enjoyed the Incarnate System as well, it was just another layer to improve the character in terms of game play, and fixed some holes that certain AT's had.

At this point, if ANYONE is able to pick up the title, pick up the old Dev Crew, some of which is already at Cryptic. I'd be happy, I cried on the day the announcement hit. The day before Labor Day weekend. "Sup, happy Labor Day! Oh, by the way. Your all fired."

I cried. But.. that being said.

Who cares. It being back in the hands of a studio and a publisher that actually -wants- the game, with a vibrant community willing to dump money in micro transactions for appearance items, and subscriptions, its a good means to make the company look even better.

The only reason I see a MMO needing to die, is simply if the community dies outright, and it no longer becomes profitable.

NCSoft has made bad decision after bad decision, and their stocks reflect that.

therain93 · April 07, 2013, 07:07:39 PM

Quote from: Triplash on April 04, 2013, 07:48:24 PM
Yep. CoH, in maintenance mode at I24 state, could keep me busy for years. Further development would be ideal, but I could live with things the way Resurgence would have made them. Happily.

Absolute agreement, which also makes the entire shutdown bewildering and frustrating.

therain93 · April 07, 2013, 07:10:24 PM

Quote from: saipaman on April 05, 2013, 12:05:15 PM
Another bonus to advertising is that it is sure to generate another round of stories in the game press.

DINGDINGDING - we have a WINNAH! ( ' :

The question becomes -- do you advertise directly on something like mmorpg.com/massively/ign, which can get expensive fast, but gives you a multimedia presentation OR do you go after something like google AdWords OR do you keep it grassroots and start start with twitter/facebook/instagrams?

Jetfire99 · April 07, 2013, 11:44:06 PM

On a whim today I had a feeling I should check a little ray of hope makes me smile and hey chompers I ain't gone yet even if I'm not the most noisy of people. i'll take any functional COH even if there's no dev and I'm willing to give him a chance he's willing to do this? I think most people would forgive him honestly. I know I'd sure as heck would.