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Re: Flash Season 2
« Reply #200 on: January 27, 2016, 10:17:09 AM »
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Re: Flash Season 2
« Reply #201 on: January 27, 2016, 02:59:36 PM »
I love the Reverse Flash!

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First - I love the Matt Letscher's Reverse Flash.  Sociopathic, but not a megalomaniac.  He was less enraged than his last appearance after killing Barry's mom.  He hasn't hit peak anger yet, which was a nice touch.  It makes me wonder what the circumstances are that lead to he and Barry travelling back to that night.  Presumably we'll see that story from the other side at some point. 

I still feel bad for Tom Cavanagh who apparently joined the show to be the Reverse Flash but won't get to be him going forward.  They do take every opportunity to get Tom into the suit though.  Cicso's scream was priceless!

I liked that Barry was able to get the win in terms of speed/combat over RF this time.  He was badly outclassed in Season 1.  This is probably because we're catching RF earlier in his career, but later in Barry's.  A nice touch.  It's also hard to claim to be the fastest man alive when you keep losing to other speedsters.  I think they will need to find another theme than "I'm not fast enough"; two seasons of that is enough.

It looks like they're going to meet each other in reverse order, which is a fantastic touch.  Barry's meeting the RF in chronological order, whereas the RF is meeting him in reverse order.  In Season 1, Barry get his powers, meeting RF for the first time and RF is seeing him at the end of his life for their "final" encounter.  This time, they've both met before but Barry doesn't know the encounter where RF meets Barry for the first time.  I assume there will be a bunch of "middle meetings" over the next few seasons.  I also hope that the last time we see RF in the series is when RF meets Barry for the first time.  It would have some fantastic symmetry!

Presumably Barry goes to the future at some point for their first meeting and it doesn't go well.  This leads RF to start exploring backwards in time to find Barry.

I didn't like the explanation for why Eobard isn't dead.  "Because Speed Force!"  But, it's a comic book show and RF is a great character so it's ok (but not great).

I also loved that RF didn't seem to be all that concerned about being captured.  He's happy to chill in the cell, knowing that time would start to unravel and they'd have to let him out or face catastrophic circumstances.  Literally "chillin like a villain".  I loved it!  Plus Cisco's big question is where did you get the ring and the costume and RF's like "Really?  *That's* what you want to know?"

I was a little surprised that there wasn't a betrayal by Eobard when they were sending him home.  Maybe grab Barry or cause him to wipe out or something.  Again, he doesn't seem to have hit peak rage and he's always put a priority on getting home.  It was a nice surprise to see them skip the cliche.

I never read much about the RF in comics, but I adore the version in the show!

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Couldn't they use the tech that Well-RF used to re-power his speed after he was stranded to help Jay?

Jay's refusal to use Velocity-6 in the face of death is a little puzzling.
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Re: Flash Season 2
« Reply #202 on: January 28, 2016, 12:08:29 PM »
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Plus Cisco's big question is where did you get the ring and the costume and RF's like "Really?  *That's* what you want to know?"
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Actually, he asked how Thawn gets the costume into the ring, which is a much more Cisco sort of question.
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Re: Flash Season 2
« Reply #203 on: January 28, 2016, 03:23:00 PM »
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Actually, he asked how Thawn gets the costume into the ring, which is a much more Cisco sort of question.
Ah, I misunderstood a word in there.  I heard 'and' instead of 'in'.

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I'm going to guess it's with help from the Atom at some point.

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Re: Flash Season 2
« Reply #204 on: January 28, 2016, 05:53:52 PM »
Ah, I misunderstood a word in there.  I heard 'and' instead of 'in'.

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I'm going to guess it's with help from the Atom at some point.

Didn't Wells say he would be able to do it for Barry?

And I misheard it as well.

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Re: Flash Season 2
« Reply #205 on: January 29, 2016, 02:13:33 AM »
Thawn is back because the Earth 2 Eddie will come to E1 and take over his life as a detective.

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Re: Flash Season 2
« Reply #206 on: February 03, 2016, 01:23:28 PM »
Cisco after doing some hacking: who's the greatest computer hacker?

Everyone else: Felicity Smoak!

I laughed.
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Re: Flash Season 2
« Reply #207 on: February 03, 2016, 01:37:32 PM »
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Re: Flash Season 2
« Reply #208 on: February 03, 2016, 02:27:02 PM »
That was an ok episode.

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Chromosomal Damage to Barry as a result of Wells' drain seems like a very serious problem.  I wonder if this will become a plot point for Barry or just dropped?

Obviously they're going to have to get Jay's speed back at some point this season.  Maybe the mapping from what Barry's original DNA was to his current speed-drained DNA will provide clues to help Jay?

Does draining the speed of others cause damage to Zoom, too?

Tarpit was underwhelming.

Feels like they were just setting up for next week's trip to Earth-2.  Apparently, while Barry's in Earth-2, Jay will have to defend Central City.  Will Jay be taking Velocity-6 or will they be trying something else?

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Re: Flash Season 2
« Reply #209 on: February 03, 2016, 03:03:53 PM »
Maybe he'll get his speed back with some Quick math.
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Re: Flash Season 2
« Reply #210 on: February 03, 2016, 03:50:05 PM »
Maybe he'll get his speed back with some Quick math.

nice pun.

Somehow they're going to have to steal back some of the speed that Zoom has stolen (how does that work anyway?)  So, I am betting Jay will get his back at that point, and that Jesse will get some too, to make her Jesse Quick.  And maybe Wally will get some too.  Oh, and that might also be where Velocity comes from since there was that news story recently about that part being cast...

Of course, all this is just speculation.

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Re: Flash Season 2
« Reply #212 on: February 10, 2016, 10:12:05 AM »
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Re: Flash Season 2
« Reply #213 on: February 10, 2016, 10:21:04 AM »
Mayor Snart! ;D
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and appearently Zoom never stole Jay's speed.
How's that for a plot twist?
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Squee.

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I honestly thought the E2 Cisco was going to be the other half of Deathstorm.

Since we ruled out most of the main cast this round, I am really leaning toward E2 Wally being Zoom and something to do with the Velocoty 6 serum.


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Re: Flash Season 2
« Reply #214 on: February 10, 2016, 02:03:16 PM »
Earth-2 has cooler cars.

Sonic hat punch is awesome.

Edit:  Thought I was close enough to the end that I wouldn't have anything else to say.  Any idea who the guy in the roboskull mask knocking on the glass was?
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Re: Flash Season 2
« Reply #215 on: February 10, 2016, 02:38:21 PM »
Edit:  Thought I was close enough to the end that I wouldn't have anything else to say.  Any idea who the guy in the roboskull mask knocking on the glass was?
Apparently he's supposed to be a mystery until later

Earth-2 looked amazing!  I love the Art Deco look!
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[notaspoiler]Barry's an idiot.[/notaspoiler] 
Keep your eye on the prize and get Jesse/stop Zoom. 

Unless there have been other people from Earth-1 coming to Earth-2 through the breaches (highly unlikely), then references to more breachers means there are other connected worlds (which we knew was possible).  I wonder if the endgame for the breaches will be that kind of extra-dimensional hopping.

Note the visions when Barry went through the tunnel: Old Oliver, Supergirl, looks like John Wesley-Shipp Flash, Jonah Hex.

Floyd Lawton coming back was awesome since he got buried on Arrow.

Barry talking to his Mom?  Damn.  That's probably worth the entire trip as far as Barry's concerned.

So many easter eggs!

Nice to know that Zoom doesn't drain speed directly.  I wonder how he's going to keep Barry from leaving the lair unless Zoom just sticks around and babysits?

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Also, it looks like Zoom isn't Barry's Dad (unless he's got a fantastic alibi).  Not Joe either. 

Notably absent from the episode was Eddie Thawne, but that might just have been an availability thing for the actor.  Also, Wally wasn't in Earth-2, but that might have been because Francine never came back.

I think we're running out of credible dopplegangers for Zoom to be.
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Re: Flash Season 2
« Reply #216 on: February 10, 2016, 05:18:47 PM »
Wild Zoom hypothesis: Jay's lost speed given form.
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Re: Flash Season 2
« Reply #217 on: February 10, 2016, 05:56:42 PM »
Apparently he's supposed to be a mystery until later

Earth-2 looked amazing!  I love the Art Deco look!
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[notaspoiler]Barry's an idiot.[/notaspoiler] 
Keep your eye on the prize and get Jesse/stop Zoom. 

Unless there have been other people from Earth-1 coming to Earth-2 through the breaches (highly unlikely), then references to more breachers means there are other connected worlds (which we knew was possible).  I wonder if the endgame for the breaches will be that kind of extra-dimensional hopping.

Note the visions when Barry went through the tunnel: Old Oliver, Supergirl, looks like John Wesley-Shipp Flash, Jonah Hex.

Floyd Lawton coming back was awesome since he got buried on Arrow.

Barry talking to his Mom?  Damn.  That's probably worth the entire trip as far as Barry's concerned.

So many easter eggs!

Nice to know that Zoom doesn't drain speed directly.  I wonder how he's going to keep Barry from leaving the lair unless Zoom just sticks around and babysits?

Edit:
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Also, it looks like Zoom isn't Barry's Dad (unless he's got a fantastic alibi).  Not Joe either. 

Notably absent from the episode was Eddie Thawne, but that might just have been an availability thing for the actor.  Also, Wally wasn't in Earth-2, but that might have been because Francine never came back.

I think we're running out of credible dopplegangers for Zoom to be.

I still stick to my guns that Zoom is E-2 Wally somehow. And I'm sure it has something to do with Velocity 6. Wells seemed to know Zoom's origin when this all started, or at least felt responsible.

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Re: Flash Season 2
« Reply #218 on: February 10, 2016, 05:58:03 PM »
Wild Zoom hypothesis: Jay's lost speed given form.

Actually not a bad idea. The comics had a Black Flash - which was like death for speedsters. Sort of looked how Zoom does.


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Re: Flash Season 2
« Reply #219 on: February 10, 2016, 09:09:16 PM »
Any chance they could just make the show Earth 2. That ep was way better than their usual fare.

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