Question from a Mids Noob

Started by That.Retro.Guy, March 05, 2009, 06:56:57 PM

SaintNicster

Quote from: Roscoe on March 16, 2009, 10:58:40 PM
I was messing around with Mids, and I saw something that really confused me.  From what I can see, all Purple Recipe enhancements are Unique.  How the heck do you get the 5-slot Set bonus if you can only use 1 Unique per toon?
You can only slot 1 of each piece in the set.  If you put 5 pieces from the same set into one power, you get the set bonus.


That.Retro.Guy

Quote from: SaintNicster on March 16, 2009, 11:13:53 PM
You can only slot 1 of each piece in the set.  If you put 5 pieces from the same set into one power, you get the set bonus.

But isn't that true of all Sets?  I mean, I'm using Crushing Impact with one of my attacks, and I can only slot 1 Acc/Dam, 1 Dam/Rch, etc . . .

Is the Mids just messing with me?

Geez!  That sounds paranoid!   ;D

Steiner

Yea, that's true of all sets.

All set IO's are power unique meaning it's designed so you can only put one type of each set in each power, but outside of purple sets you can use that set as many times as you want in other powers.

Then you run into ones marked "Unique" which for the most part can be slotted once in entire build.

Finally, keep in mind to watch your bonuses, if you have 6 different sets with a 10% recharge bonus it will only stack up to the 5th, meaning the 6th recharge bonus is useless. However if your 6th set has a different number, 6.5% for example, that will stack with the other 5 sets.

Never realized how confusing they made IOs, lol.

~Steinerd

Bliz

Quote from: Steiner on March 19, 2009, 12:24:41 PM
Finally, keep in mind to watch your bonuses, if you have 6 different sets with a 10% recharge bonus it will only stack up to the 5th, meaning the 6th recharge bonus is useless. However if your 6th set has a different number, 6.5% for example, that will stack with the other 5 sets.

Actually this is mostly true, but there are some exceptions. The game registers set bonuses under a certain name, so you can only have that named bonus 5 times in a build. But there are some bonuses that come under different names that allow stacking.

Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Recharge Speed, Gives a 7.5% recharge set bonus under the name of the IO.
Mocking Beratement: the 6th bonus is +7.5% Recharge, but it's bonus is labeled something like 'Large Increased Recharge Bonus.' (A generic label.)

So actually, you could have five 6-piece sets of Mocking Beratement slotted WITH 5 of the Luck of the Gambler Recharge pieces in your build and they all stack for a whopping 75% recharge bonus. I of course, don't recommend doing this.

The valuable knockback protection IOs (Karma, Steadfast, Blessing of the Zephyr) work the same way, as the set bonuses are named: NAME OF IO: KNOCKBACK PROTECTION. So if you were really crazy, you could have 5 of each of those in a build, giving you 60pts of KB protection. Which pretty much means only Rikti A Bombs will knock you around. Again, I don't recommend this, but it shows some important exceptions, as there aren't a great deal of IOs that break the usual rules.
Liz

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Steiner

yea, Had a feeling there was a work around.

I knew it was based off either the name or the bonus, sadly I just assumed the game was more # oriented than name oriented... dumb Steiner :D.

Thanks for the clarification.
~Steinerd

That.Retro.Guy


How much Global Recharge bonus do I need to have Perma-Hasten?  Hasten has (or will have) 3 L50 IO Recharge Enhancements.

Tazhyngarth

I forget how I have my Character setup now, but his Hasten is only down for like 45 secs or something close to that.  I'll have to see if I still have the File at home and check it out.  Someone once said how to do it though....

Bliz

I think for Perma Hasten you need about 110% global recharge... but at that point, why bother with Hasten? :P
Liz

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Tazhyngarth

Cause Hasten makes you Uber Fast! :P

Apparently I don't have my Save Files anymore....can't find any of them....sorry.

Steiner

Perma-hasten is 80% on the dot. If you get your character's recharge to 80% or up, it will go off exactly as it is turning off.

~Steinerd

That.Retro.Guy

#30
My Global Recharge is only 20%  :(  but if I'm reading it right, Hasten will only be down for about 80 seconds or so.  Here's the Info:

Crushing Impact
(Sting of the Wasp)
  MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
  15.1 HP (1.12%) HitPoints
  7% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)

Numina's Convalescence
(High Pain Tolerance)
  12% (0.67 HP/sec) Regeneration

Aegis
(High Pain Tolerance)
  5% RunSpeed

Scirocco's Dervish
(Flashing Steel)
  10% (0.56 HP/sec) Regeneration
  3.13% Resistance(Negative)
  9% Enhancement(Accuracy)

Shield Breaker
(Flashing Steel)
  2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery

Aegis
(Mind Over Body)
  5% RunSpeed

Crushing Impact
(Divine Avalanche)
  MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
  15.1 HP (1.12%) HitPoints
  7% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)

Numina's Convalescence
(Fast Healing)
  12% (0.67 HP/sec) Regeneration

Luck of the Gambler
(Indomitable Will)
  10% (0.56 HP/sec) Regeneration
  15.1 HP (1.12%) HitPoints
  9% Enhancement(Accuracy)

Numina's Convalescence
(Health)
  12% (0.67 HP/sec) Regeneration

Luck of the Gambler
(Stealth)
  10% (0.56 HP/sec) Regeneration
  15.1 HP (1.12%) HitPoints
  9% Enhancement(Accuracy)

Scirocco's Dervish
(The Lotus Drops)
  10% (0.56 HP/sec) Regeneration
  3.13% Resistance(Negative)
  9% Enhancement(Accuracy)

Shield Breaker
(The Lotus Drops)
  2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery

Performance Shifter
(Stamina)
  5% JumpSpeed, 5% JumpHeight, 5% FlySpeed, 5% RunSpeed
  25.1 HP (1.87%) HitPoints

Performance Shifter
(Quick Recovery)
  5% JumpSpeed, 5% JumpHeight, 5% FlySpeed, 5% RunSpeed
  25.1 HP (1.87%) HitPoints

Numina's Convalescence
(Rise to the Challenge)
  12% (0.67 HP/sec) Regeneration

Dark Watcher's Despair
(Rise to the Challenge)
  20.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
  2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
  5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)

Crushing Impact
(Gambler's Cut)
  MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
  15.1 HP (1.12%) HitPoints
  7% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)

Kinetic Combat
(Soaring Dragon)
  MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%
  20.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
  3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)
  5% RunSpeed, 5% FlySpeed, 5% JumpSpeed, 5% JumpHeight

Scirocco's Dervish
(Golden Dragonfly)
  10% (0.56 HP/sec) Regeneration
  3.13% Resistance(Negative)
  9% Enhancement(Accuracy)

Shield Breaker
(Golden Dragonfly)
  2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery

Performance Shifter
(Resurgence)
  5% JumpSpeed, 5% JumpHeight, 5% FlySpeed, 5% RunSpeed
  25.1 HP (1.87%) HitPoints

Serendipity
(Heightened Senses)
  4% (0.22 HP/sec) Regeneration
  10 HP (0.75%) HitPoints
  3% Enhancement(Accuracy)

Aegis
(Strength of Will)
  5% RunSpeed

Devastation
(Shuriken)
  12% (0.67 HP/sec) Regeneration



Edit:  Here's the Active Set Bonus Window:

+3.75% Defense(Smashing)
+3.75% Defense(Lethal)
+1.88% Defense(Melee)
+69% Enhancement(Accuracy)
+20% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
+20% FlySpeed
+200.8 HP (15%) HitPoints
+20% JumpHeight
+20% JumpSpeed
+MezResist(Immobilize) 9.35%
+10% (0.17 End/sec) Recovery
+114% (6.37 HP/sec) Regeneration
+9.38% Resistance(Negative)
+35% RunSpeed

That.Retro.Guy


Sorry for the double-post, but I figured that I would post the proposed build, and let everybody take a look at it.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.401
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build!

UC10 Final: Level 50 Natural Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Katana
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Weapon Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Sting of the Wasp -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg:50(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx:50(3), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg:50(3), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(36), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(40)
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- Numna-Heal:50(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx:50(5), Aegis-ResDam:50(5), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:50(7), ResDam-I:50(7)
Level 2: Flashing Steel -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg:50(9), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx:50(9), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg:50(36), ShldBrk-DefDeb:30(40), ShldBrk-Acc/DefDeb:30(43)
Level 4: Mind Over Body -- Aegis-ResDam:50(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:50(11), ResDam-I:50(11)
Level 6: Swift -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 8: Divine Avalanche -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg:50(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx:50(17), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg:50(19), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(36), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(40)
Level 10: Fast Healing -- Numna-Heal:50(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx:50(13), Heal-I:50(13)
Level 12: Indomitable Will -- LkGmblr-Def:50(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(17), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg:50(27), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg:50(33)
Level 14: Health -- Numna-Heal:50(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:50(15), Heal-I:50(15)
Level 16: Stealth -- LkGmblr-Def:50(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(34), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg:50(34), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg:50(34)
Level 18: The Lotus Drops -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg:50(19), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx:50(27), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg:50(37), ShldBrk-DefDeb:30(42), ShldBrk-Acc/DefDeb:30(43)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod:50(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc:50(21), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg:50(21)
Level 22: Quick Recovery -- P'Shift-EndMod:50(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc:50(23), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg:50(23)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(25), RechRdx-I:50(25)
Level 26: Rise to the Challenge -- Numna-Heal:50(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx:50(31), DarkWD-ToHitDeb:50(39), DarkWD-ToHitDeb/EndRdx:50(39), DarkWD-ToHitDeb/Rchg:50(45), DarkWD-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx:50(45)
Level 28: Gambler's Cut -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg:50(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx:50(29), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg:50(29), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(37), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(42)
Level 30: Soaring Dragon -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(31), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(31), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(37), KntkC'bat-Knock%:35(42)
Level 32: Golden Dragonfly -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg:50(33), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx:50(33), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg:50(39), ShldBrk-DefDeb:30(43), ShldBrk-Acc/DefDeb:30(45)
Level 35: Resurgence -- P'Shift-EndMod:50(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc:50(46), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg:50(46)
Level 38: Heightened Senses -- S'dpty-Def:40(A), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx:40(46), S'dpty-Def/Rchg:40(48), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:40(48)
Level 41: Strength of Will -- Aegis-ResDam:50(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:50(48), ResDam-I:50(50)
Level 44: Invisibility -- DefBuff-I:50(A), DefBuff-I:50(50)
Level 47: Web Grenade -- Slow-I:50(A)
Level 49: Shuriken -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx:50(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I:50(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
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Yes, I know that he doesn't have a travel power.  The idea is for this toon to be as human as possible.  He is a Samurai, after all.  Ignore the name also.  I just typed something there.

Lazoris

and that is why they need cars or something in this game lol. which of course will never happen. Game needs alot of stuff that would make character creation alot more fun.

That.Retro.Guy


I have actually had fun running everywhere.  Running across the Rikti War Zone can be a bit hair-raising at times, though.   :o

I do use my SG's Teleporters as well as the Raptor Pack I got waaaaay back at Level 6.  It still has about an hour and 20 minutes left on it.  The Zero-G Pack still has the full 2 hours on it.   ;D

The Samurai is currently Level 46 (Getting ever so close to 47).

Mids

Nothing gets you used to where everything is better than having no travel power. I did that with a scrapper back before we had access to temp travel powers.

I found I could often arrive at missions ahead of my travel power using teammates. :)
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That.Retro.Guy


Hey, Mids;

When I printed the build, I decided to print the Level History page as well.  Are you aware that the word 'received' is not spelled correctly 6 times?  On the page, it's spelled 'recieved'.  Just thought that I'd bring that to your attention.

Mids

Bah, I always typo that one, one hand types slightly faster that the other, :P
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That.Retro.Guy


So how does the build look to you guys (and/or Ladies)?  Did I miss something obvious?  Is there a better way to make use of the slots?

That.Retro.Guy


The Samurai is only 5 bars (or bubbles) away from Level 50.  He has yet to be defeated.

As soon as I hit L50, I'll be doing the respec to get him ready for the Set IOs.  I know that I asked this question before, but 'Is the build I posted good or is there something that I need to change?'

Mids

It looks okay to me, though personally, i'd suggest taking out stealth and taking build up instead. If you want the option to be stealthy, you'd be better off with a stealth IO in a sprint type power.
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