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[LateNights]

No.

I made my stance clear, an offline mode is not impossible, and would be nice to have.
- Also, I said games - not just strictly MMO's - I can also see one reason it wasn't done - just so everyone would be playing as part of the same community.

Stop putting words in my mouth, and just read what I've actually said - which was little more than it was a feature I'd have liked - but not once did I demand ANYTHING.

Just because I don't put much weight into any of the arguments against it being done, you've assumed I'm making the argument that I didn't get what I paid for - rather than it simply being something nice that could have been done "just in case" of this kind of eventuality - that there was no sequel and the game was simply left to rot.

That aside, let's see what someone like Codewalker has to say about just how possible it might have been, he seems to make the impossible look like a challenge rather than an opportunity to lecture as to why it's beyond the realm of reality.

That said, don't for a moment think you can tell me how and why to spend my money.

You have no idea how often I've spent more than I had to so I could get the limited edition content of games I've played, nor how often I've bought multiple copies - even just so I could run it straight from my Xbox.

Nor how much I've spent money on premium services just to contribute because I felt it was the right way to show I cared about the effort people had made to create these worlds.

Nor any idea how long I paid a sub for CoH & CoV, nor my second subscription.

Nor any idea of how I felt about it...



I did half - jokingly say that it was "almost criminal" that the game could just be ripped away after the time and care people put into it, but again, I didn't demand a thing.

It would have been nice to have had the feature, and yes I do believe that it is "wrong" that the game can be taken away like that, but I didn't demand ANYTHING.

So, why are you in this thread if you don't feel like it was wrong the game was taken away?

And how can you justify using Paragon Chat if you think the way you do?

Because those two view points don't seem to add up, or do you really not understand what it means to use the Paragon Chat program in the context of this conversation - and how ridiculous it makes your stance on not being entitled to play because the company that owns the game told you so?

[Vee]

I for one am just happy i got to read all that before the mod bat comes along :P

[blacksly]

I for one am just happy i got to read all that before the mod bat comes along :P

Me too. I wonder how much entertainment I've missed over the past 3 years because a Wandering Mod happened to come by before I did.

Oh, and ... LateNights... :
"how ridiculous it makes your stance on not being entitled to play"

I'm not sure that you're using the word "entitled" in its correct form. Correctly, those like slickriptide and Taceus who have argued that it may be a shame and unpleasant that we can't play, but that we're not actually ENTITLED to any form of the game from the company, are using the word properly. It is a very rare situation where any consumer anywhere is ENTITLED to continue obtaining a service from a provider that desires to stop providing that service, and I cannot see how CoH comes anywhere close to the kind of necessary service that may qualify as an entitlement.

[Medispider Reznov]

I am... suspecting the main post is not being edited anymore, that scares me. Anyhow can someone give me a brief summary of what I have missed in the last... year and half since this got posted?

[Arcana]

Me too. I wonder how much entertainment I've missed over the past 3 years because a Wandering Mod happened to come by before I did.

I often have the opposite problem, remembering discussions that no longer exist, and therefore I ought not to reference.  Its like being Worf in the TNG episode "Parallels."  Apropos of nothing posters will often assert something contradicted by their history, except for the fact they have a history of having their history be modded into history.

[Codewalker]

Anyhow can someone give me a brief summary of what I have missed in the last... year and half since this got posted?

Lots of random tangents, wild theories, unconfirmed (and probably wrong) rumors, and off-topic discussions.

[LateNights]

Me too. I wonder how much entertainment I've missed over the past 3 years because a Wandering Mod happened to come by before I did.

Oh, and ... LateNights... :
"how ridiculous it makes your stance on not being entitled to play"

I'm not sure that you're using the word "entitled" in its correct form. Correctly, those like slickriptide and Taceus who have argued that it may be a shame and unpleasant that we can't play, but that we're not actually ENTITLED to any form of the game from the company, are using the word properly. It is a very rare situation where any consumer anywhere is ENTITLED to continue obtaining a service from a provider that desires to stop providing that service, and I cannot see how CoH comes anywhere close to the kind of necessary service that may qualify as an entitlement.

Why do you think I used the word exactly?

[Biz]

I often have the opposite problem, remembering discussions that no longer exist, and therefore I ought not to reference.  Its like being Worf in the TNG episode "Parallels."  Apropos of nothing posters will often assert something contradicted by their history, except for the fact they have a history of having their history be modded into history.

Or is it modded out of history?

Also, history is a very strange word when you repeat it over and over

[Codewalker]

I'm not wearing my mod hat at the moment (I try to avoid that unless absolutely necessary), but just a reminder that personal attacks are against the acceptable use policy, regardless if they use language that is censored or not. The last person who used that phrase in a post got a temp ban for it, and that was while the pancake filter was still in place. The meaning is far more important than the exact words used.

Soo... might want to edit that post before the real mods come looking.

[LateNights]

I'm not wearing my mod hat at the moment (I try to avoid that unless absolutely necessary), but just a reminder that personal attacks are against the acceptable use policy, regardless if they use language that is censored or not. The last person who used that phrase in a post got a temp ban for it, and that was while the pancake filter was still in place. The meaning is far more important than the exact words used.

Soo... might want to edit that post before the real mods come looking.

How much?

Cause I did actually save it offline just in case it got modded...

[Arcana]

Or is it modded out of history?

Also, history is a very strange word when you repeat it over and over

History is a strange word in general because it can connote being remembered and being forgotten.  As someone that considers themselves, as Peter David used to say, "a writer of stuff" I try to be extremely deliberate with word choice although sometimes for playful reasons.  But I usually have more than one reason for doing anything, and so to here.

Words are the Legos upon which we make our Lego Batman movie.

[Codewalker]

How much?

I would start with the 3 instances of name-calling, including the statement that who you're responding to should go do something to themselves, whether the word is censored or not. And no, "I was going to say X but decided not to" doesn't work -- that's the same thing as saying it and just looks childish.

The "Why the hell are you in this thread" line is borderline and probably would be a judgment call on the part of the moderator, could go either way. I'd tone it down a little to be on the safe side.

The rest of it is probably not a flagrant rules violation.  Whether you intended it that way or not, it does still read like a reactionary post made out of anger: repeated points, unnecessary emphasis on specific parts of an argument that doesn't really matter in the grand scheme, accusations of not reading the post, overall tone. But that's not necessarily mod-bait unless it devolves into a flamewar.

It's your choice. Just as an observer who has honestly lost track of who is arguing which side, I don't think it particularly helps your case as much as a calmer-sounding response would.

[LateNights]

I would start with the 3 instances of name-calling, including the statement that who you're responding to should go do something to themselves, whether the word is censored or not. And no, "I was going to say X but decided not to" doesn't work -- that's the same thing as saying it and just looks childish.

The "Why the hell are you in this thread" line is borderline and probably would be a judgment call on the part of the moderator, could go either way. I'd tone it down a little to be on the safe side.

The rest of it is probably not a flagrant rules violation.  Whether you intended it that way or not, it does still read like a reactionary post made out of anger: repeated points, unnecessary emphasis on specific parts of an argument that doesn't really matter in the grand scheme, accusations of not reading the post, overall tone. But that's not necessarily mod-bait unless it devolves into a flamewar.

It's your choice. Just as an observer who has honestly lost track of who is arguing which side, I don't think it particularly helps your case as much as a calmer-sounding response would.

He started it...

;D

[blacksly]

Lots of random tangents, wild theories, unconfirmed (and probably wrong) rumors, and off-topic discussions.

Not to mention some entirely new theories of space and time that will set the scientific world on its ear as soon as they are properly ironed out and published.
And internet kittens.
Although, to be fair, the kittens referenced are probably old enough by now to have kittens of their own.

[blacksly]

He started it...

;D

Will anyone join me in a nice round of "did NOT!! / did TOO!!" ? :D

[Arcana]

Will anyone join me in a nice round of "did NOT!! / did TOO!!" ? :D

/jranger

[LateNights]

I am... suspecting the main post is not being edited anymore, that scares me. Anyhow can someone give me a brief summary of what I have missed in the last... year and half since this got posted?

One time, Arcana complimented me on my Samuel l. Jackson impersonation...

[eabrace]

Soo... might want to edit that post before the real mods come looking.

https://images.weserv.nl/?url=suzannebrazil.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F04%2FJack-Nicholson.jpg

[slickriptide]

He started it...

;D

LMAO.

I usually try not to use "you" in the general sense because it sounds like "you" means whoever is reading the post or whoever said the most recent thing.

If you feel like I attacked you, said attack was not intentionally aimed in your direction. From my perspective, I wasn't "attacking" anyone, though. Disagreeing with someone is not ipso facto an attempt to troll that person.

Sometimes forums aren't the most conducive environment to spirited discussion.

As for hanging around here, I don't see any conflict between nostalgia for City of Heroes and being realistic about how the MMORPG industry operates and how the general online games industry operates.

Games die all the time, and as someone pointed out upstream, the City of Heroes players weren't exactly pulling out the torches and pitchforks when NCSoft shut down Auto Assault or Dungeonrunner or even Tabula Rasa. That might have been the time, though, for anyone who felt that it was a bad thing to spend money on a game and lose it, for that person to take stock of what they were spending their money on.

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[Vee]

Disagreeing with someone is not ipso facto an attempt to troll that person.

Did I wander onto some parallel earth's internet?