New efforts!

[Super Firebug]

Probably the same way that a guy with an RV unloads the contents of his toilet tank. Go to a location with the necessary equipment, attach a hose to a port somewhere on the freak, wait while everything gets sucked out.   :)

That adds a whole new meaning to the last line of your signature.

[Fanta]

Well, I ran a WOW server emulator on a 3ghz P3 Northwood running Vista and only 4gig of RAM some years back... Supported about 32 players, no worries.

I was trying to ease into it, but I'd really like to be able to run incarnate trials from home if it came to it. I've got an extra quad core with 16 gig on mem sitting right now. I'd love to be able to host. Clearly this is way out there so.....

[mrultimate]

I'll be there (hope there's a Guardian server LOL. what can i say? It's home!)

Guardianites Represent!

[Scendera]

Well, I ran a WOW server emulator on a 3ghz P3 Northwood running Vista and only 4gig of RAM some years back... Supported about 32 players, no worries.

I ran an EQ one on the same machine I use for NAT, firewall, and personal use, 2.9 Ghz C2D, 2 gb ram, without having to sacrifice anything or noticing any lacks. To be fair, we never had more than 4 clients logged in at a time, from 2 separate machines.

Vanilla Minecraft was frankly considerably more demanding...it could actually put a hurtin' on the machine with only 2 clients logged in. EQ felt like it coulda kept going as long as there was bandwidth, and being purely LAN, there was plenty of that.

[Dannii]

Guardianites Represent!

Here and waiting for the word!

[Mistress Urd]

Ok ...follow me for a moment, here
Has anybody else ever wondered how the freak tanks and slicers ...err ...wipe?

They don't have to wipe, they have no torsos.

[Ironwolf]

Wait, what? Now I'm confused again. I thought that Paragon Studios, led by Brian Clayton, was in secret talks to buy the game. The talks fell through, and the next day we learned about the shutdown. Following that announcement, TonyV started the SaveCoH campaing, and then even farther after that, VV & others got started with the Task Force Hail Mary stuff. I was under the impression that VV knew as much as any of the players about the Paragon Studios buy out - that is to say, nothing, until interviews brought out info much after the fact.

I thought it was because the Run is near The Maw, a bunch of black holes, and if you fly properly near them, you can literally take a shorter distance than other routes, because a massive group of black holes does crazy things to space / time.

Whoops forgot about the Brian Clayton led one! So there were at least 3 efforts and a couple that never got past first base. I know of a couple that got tired of no replies and gave up. I can't stress enough it is honestly getting the name of the lead person that got us through the door. In true big company fashion the little fish stand in front of all the big fish. However if you can name drop the big fish - it gets you instant street cred to get past the minions.

[FloatingFatMan]

Per the Lore AMA (http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Lore_AMA/Sorted#200) they're relatively close:

And I think I mentioned that the short lifespan is integral to the Nictus origin story - extending it is why they started munching on other Khelds in the first place.

Yes. I know. I know the Kheldian backstory (what there is of it), extremely well.  I'm a roleplayer and writer, I'm quite capable of fixing the problems AND still keeping Nictus origin intact. ;)

[FloatingFatMan]

I was trying to ease into it, but I'd really like to be able to run incarnate trials from home if it came to it. I've got an extra quad core with 16 gig on mem sitting right now. I'd love to be able to host. Clearly this is way out there so.....

I also ran the client on that same machine, so I could play with my friends.  Ran just fine. ;)

[FloatingFatMan]

I ran an EQ one on the same machine I use for NAT, firewall, and personal use, 2.9 Ghz C2D, 2 gb ram, without having to sacrifice anything or noticing any lacks. To be fair, we never had more than 4 clients logged in at a time, from 2 separate machines.

Vanilla Minecraft was frankly considerably more demanding...it could actually put a hurtin' on the machine with only 2 clients logged in. EQ felt like it coulda kept going as long as there was bandwidth, and being purely LAN, there was plenty of that.

That's the difference between writing your server code in C/C++, and crappy Java! :p  Minecraft has some of the cruddiest code I've have had the displeasure to nose through...

[LaughingAlex]

The first group who tried to buy the game was the Paragon Studio buyout with VV and company and they were buying the game still running.
The second group never got past the preliminary stages before they stopped - I am not sure if NCSoft stopped or they did - I believe it was NCSoft seeing they were not capable of running the game.

Why did they cut a profitable game?

Paragon Studios was making roughly $10 million a year gross. They also were making 2 other games as well as developing CoH. Paragon Studios was not profitable, they were losing money due to the other 2 titles. During this time NCSoft merged with Nexon another multi-billion dollar company. They changed focus to consolidating their assests. CoH was the game making the least money with Paragon Studios losing money. They closed Paragon Studios. CoH was Paragon Studios and when they shut - there was no one to develop the game.

So the 2 things were not seperated by NCSoft. They could have waded through how many people they needed to keep it running - but they chose simply to close the studio and also cut management. Downix also reminded that NC Interactive - whose head was Chris Chung a friend of the game was closed shortly before. I was very angry at NCSoft but once you see what was happening it makes sense. They were pouring way too much money in management of something that technically was losing money.

I suspect that NCSoft didn't want to shut the game down but was wanting someone else to get the studio, but unfortunately they didn't get through the paperwork and whatnot.  That was what was meant by the one signature away.  They probably didn't realise though at the time how popular CoH really was, they may have seen it was profitable but not the studio.  It may even have been that they were on a deadline themselves with Nexon, and they saw no other way to meet that deadline for the merger.

[ObsidianPhoenix76]

Guardianites Represent!

^^  This!

[PSI-on]

There is also Guild War's "Buy to Play" option.

This sort of deal must have some sort of benefit if they not only kept the original but spawned a second game with the same model. I'd love to find out how that worked out for them, I mean they barely ever had anything to buy in their store compared to the other NC games, from a purely money making stand point I'd love to pick the brain of whoever was in charge of the financial portion of that game.

[Scendera]

That's the difference between writing your server code in C/C++, and crappy Java! :p  Minecraft has some of the cruddiest code I've have had the displeasure to nose through...

Word.

[Tubbius]

Peeking in here again after a few pages.  :)  Debating if I want to eat Pringles while I read.

[Fanta]

Peeking in here again after a few pages.  :)  Debating if I want to eat Pringles while I read.

Popcorn or pie!

[Felderburg]

Yes. I know. I know the Kheldian backstory (what there is of it), extremely well.  I'm a roleplayer and writer, I'm quite capable of fixing the problems AND still keeping Nictus origin intact. ;)

How would you do that? Just say "Nictus wanted to live longer, so they started munching other Kheldians?" I imagine it would be a bit more nuanced than that... (and I am aware of your RP - I was the one that linked your story on the Wiki, despite some reservations about it being proper to include on the Wiki, because it was an excellent depiction of the FTL travel method (and the reservations were mostly overcome by the fact the the entire Kheldian article is noted as being essentially copied from a Memphis Bill's guide)).


It's worth noting that the Lore AMA indicates that the Battalion play an integral part in the reasons Kheldians are on Earth. It would be mighty interesting if the Nictus either gave the technology of their Kheldian life-sucking machine to the Battalion, or were helped along to its development by the Battalion... either way, the Battalion benefit by taking the machine and adapting it to power their spaceships with Kheldian energy.



...then again, that whole macguffin sort of falls apart when you realize that after the Kheldian genocide, the Battalion would need a new way to power their ships. Unless it was just a temporary thing anyways, to save their "normal" fuel reserves while they used up the Kheldians.

[primeknight]

^^  This!

Wow... I love your avatar.  Who did it and do they take commissions? 

(sorry for the tangent.  Liberty server here)

[Kaos Arcanna]

How would you do that? Just say "Nictus wanted to live longer, so they started munching other Kheldians?" I imagine it would be a bit more nuanced than that... (and I am aware of your RP - I was the one that linked your story on the Wiki, despite some reservations about it being proper to include on the Wiki, because it was an excellent depiction of the FTL travel method (and the reservations were mostly overcome by the fact the the entire Kheldian article is noted as being essentially copied from a Memphis Bill's guide)).


It's worth noting that the Lore AMA indicates that the Battalion play an integral part in the reasons Kheldians are on Earth. It would be mighty interesting if the Nictus either gave the technology of their Kheldian life-sucking machine to the Battalion, or were helped along to its development by the Battalion... either way, the Battalion benefit by taking the machine and adapting it to power their spaceships with Kheldian energy.



...then again, that whole macguffin sort of falls apart when you realize that after the Kheldian genocide, the Battalion would need a new way to power their ships. Unless it was just a temporary thing anyways, to save their "normal" fuel reserves while they used up the Kheldians.

Well a human inventor came up with a similar device powered by Khelds ... you find that out in the Kheld arcs.

You'd just have to be careful to leave some breeding stock so they'd continue to reproduce...

[Takinalis]

i just had the worst thought ever....

i hope i'm wrong....

what if the server equipment was wiped though... or recommissioned...