The Big Giant Icon Thread

[Tyger]

Thanks you!  Although I seem to be missing the ability to change the skirt type.  I'm looking for the wedding one.

After the Skirt update: you pick the style of 'mini' 'midi' 'long' and then the types are the secondary. So you want Mini/Pencil/Long->Bridal.

In NPC mode; you'll see both types listed; make sure to pick 'skirts/shorts' not 'skirts'

[batqueen]

Soooo happy this has been done! I already feel better. thankyou thankyou thankyou thankyou

One quick question- can we use FX in ICON? And if so, how should it be written? (wait, that's two questions...)

[Noyjitat]

I'm looking for an emote but I'm not sure what they have it labeled as. Its in the mission where your doppelganger kills all the really bad versions of you at the portal at the end of the mission. he/she is kinda leaning against a rail and in pain/dying. I thought it might be wounded or something but that wasn't it.

[Noyjitat]

I'm sorry I can't do this anymore, I can't use this program. I just flew over to where a pylon should of been and had a realization that i'll never be able to run another mothership raid and burst into tears. The hardest I've cried since the game was shutdown. People might think this is silly to still be grieving but at the moment of typing this I realize now that I'd do anything to play again. Id run back to back msrs right now if I had some way of getting the game and people to play with.

For now I'm going to avoid using this program. It's just too painful on me.

Thank you for your work codewalker.

[batqueen]

I'm relying on the word of others that eventually, we will be able to fully "log in", and that this is just to keep us busy until something does come along. After all, at one point, just after shut down, I ran out and downloaded all the music I could find, because I would never be able to hear it in Paragon City again.  I hear it every day now.

by the way, Is anyone using FX in their new Icon screenshots? some of them look like it.

[Tahliah]

YMMV.  Being quite familiar with the episode, and that song's original context - a situation where they've "won" a hollow victory, and are singing to reassure themselves that things worked out okay despite none of them really believing it - I've never really cared for its inclusion in that video.  I suppose that if you don't know that, or really listen to the lyrics, it might be seen as genuinely hopeful, but...

"Once More With Feeling" is one of my favorite episodes, and yes, the scene/song does indicate a sort of hollow victory over Sweet, but it's also an awareness that they've all just spent the entire episode baring their souls and that they're not exactly who they've always been or thought they were (thought of themselves or of each other).  The Scoobies, et al, are worried about all they've revealed and all they've learned, their world and foundations shaken, and they try for solidarity, an almost phony unity (that they quickly see as such and drop each others' hands), but it slowly falls apart under the weight of the revelations.

However, they're still "we" and still determined to stay "we" and rebuild as best they can--intending to go wherever they go together.  I think, in these terms, it's a perfect analogy for what's happened with the COH community.  We all had to examine ourselves and our relationship with the game and with each other, we were shaken, felt defeated and confused, but ultimately, we're still "we" and are going to carry on wherever we go together. 

Or some kind of happy horse poop. ;)

[doc7924]

I'm sorry I can't do this anymore, I can't use this program. I just flew over to where a pylon should of been and had a realization that i'll never be able to run another mothership raid and burst into tears. The hardest I've cried since the game was shutdown. People might think this is silly to still be grieving but at the moment of typing this I realize now that I'd do anything to play again. Id run back to back msrs right now if I had some way of getting the game and people to play with.

For now I'm going to avoid using this program. It's just too painful on me.

Thank you for your work codewalker.

I couldn't bear to log in much and play live once I knew the game was shutting down.

Yes I could spend hours doing missions, or TF's or Incarnate missions to boost up my 50s. But for what? I personally felt it was just a waste of time.

I did log in some of my better toons to take screenshots and chat with people about the shutdown, but I had no more urge to actually play the game.

I hadn't logging in for a few months and when I saw the message I felt like I was punched in the gut.

And when I sat thought about all the places I would never be able to run around in again, I actually sat and cried.

And then Icon came along and I was happy to at least get to the costume creator. Once I found out about the updates that you could actually log into a map and walk around again, It was sheer joy for me to set foot in places I thought I would never, ever set foot in again.

And although its just your toon and an empty city - to just be able to see the buildings and the billboards and all the landmarks makes me really happy.

[BenshowSly]

It's all a matter of perception...

Some see it like bringing back bad feelings of sadness...
Others see it like the road to happiness...

Some feel they can't do anything in ICON...
Others feel they can do a lot they couldn't do before...

Some burst in tears seeing it as rubbing their face into the mud and adding some insults to the injuries...
Others see it like an answer to their prayers to bring the game back and to find back the beloved City they lost...

For each human, there is a way to live it. Your memories are yours. Your feelings are yours. Everyone will live things differently but we all have the same fight and goal... to Save City of Heroes.

Is the ICON our future golden ticket to get back our game or is it just now a graphical tool that will always stay a graphical tool? Only future... and CodeWalker... will tell.



PS: Sorry to Codewalker if he sees "Graphic Tool" as an insult. Don't get me wrong. I'm a huge fan of what he does and I'm really impressed of what he has done. Just that for now, in this early stage of developpement, we can build a hero look, make some NPC appears in a chosen map and to take screenshots of it. It's what I mean by "Graphic Tool". But I'm well aware it is still early stage :) Keep up the great work, Codewalker :)

[The Fifth Horseman]

I'm looking for an emote but I'm not sure what they have it labeled as. Its in the mission where your doppelganger kills all the really bad versions of you at the portal at the end of the mission. he/she is kinda leaning against a rail and in pain/dying. I thought it might be wounded or something but that wasn't it.

Had a demo of that one.
MOV BUM_SLEEP_CUTSCENE 0

[Tyger]

Just had to add Icon to the viral exception list in AVG. The thought: "I WANT to be infected with this" ;D

It's been fine up until today so AVG must've updated something to its list and given me a false positive.

[The Fifth Horseman]

Heuristics, probably.

[doc7924]

Heuristics, probably.

What he said.

I had to add it to my list as well since it got blocked the first time I used it.

[Thunder Glove]

Is the ICON our future golden ticket to get back our game or is it just now a graphical tool that will always stay a graphical tool? Only future... and CodeWalker... will tell.

... a graphical tool, I suspect.  Icon is an incredible tool (and getting more incredible with each update), but, as I understand it, the game needs a server in order to be able to spawn "real" NPCs, like contacts and enemies.  It also needs the server for combat logic and mission logic, and even to keep track of where our character actually is in the Cities.

Icon can make objects, but only the server can make a glowie. (... well, at least, an actual working mission-related glowie.  At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if "simulated" glowies that don't actually do anything but flash and hum were possible.  I miss that sound)

[primeknight]

This is wonderful and keeps getting better.

Thank you so much!

[doc7924]

... a graphical tool, I suspect.  Icon is an incredible tool (and getting more incredible with each update), but, as I understand it, the game needs a server in order to be able to spawn "real" NPCs, like contacts and enemies.  It also needs the server for combat logic and mission logic, and even to keep track of where our character actually is in the Cities.

Icon can make objects, but only the server can make a glowie. (... well, at least, an actual working mission-related glowie.  At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if "simulated" glowies that don't actually do anything but flash and hum were possible.  I miss that sound)

I have tried clicking on things in the zones that used to be clickable. Some just don't do anything, some the game hangs like its waiting for a response and then after a while you can move again. But its nice to see some animation and sound effects and music as you go around.

I love there is no detection. I flew all the way up to the highest you can go in Steel and turned off fly and plummeted to the ground. Normally in the live game that would basically kill you, in Icon as it is now, you just hit the ground at full speed.

[Codewalker]

PS: Sorry to Codewalker if he sees "Graphic Tool" as an insult.

No offense taken. There's a reason the first version was published with a title of Offline Costume Creator, and 1.5 / 1.6 became Screenshot Studio.

Icon was always intended and designed to be a "Graphic Tool" of sorts. That's why it's named after the tailor. Where there are things I want do with it, like better integration with demorecording, it will never be a full recreation of City of Heroes -- that's way outside its scope. There are better ways to do that than hacking into the client's memory at runtime, projects which can exist in parallel with Icon.

[Zombie Man]

Is it me, or is the Freak Olympics map crashing you too?

Maps/Missions/Unique/Artified/Freak_Olympic_Awards

[BenshowSly]

No offense taken. There's a reason the first version was published with a title of Offline Costume Creator, and 1.5 / 1.6 became Screenshot Studio.

Icon was always intended and designed to be a "Graphic Tool" of sorts. That's why it's named after the tailor. Where there are things I want do with it, like better integration with demorecording, it will never be a full recreation of City of Heroes -- that's way outside its scope. There are better ways to do that than hacking into the client's memory at runtime, projects which can exist in parallel with Icon.

You know... in my rightful mind, I knew it... At the same time, I just kinda feel down now... I know I just hoped too much but still... I guess I had some hopes left deep in me... :(

[Codewalker]

What, did I need to add a wink or something?

;) ;) ;)

[HeatSpike1]

You know... in my rightful mind, I knew it... At the same time, I just kinda feel down now... I know I just hoped too much but still... I guess I had some hopes left deep in me... :(

Hey,

If our CoX community sticks together, continuing the desire for the return of our game... who's to say a company/investor won't wake up and see the obvious? - profit and loyalty (a great combination for any business)

Dwindling away or losing hope is our worst enemy at this point.  Continue hoping and publicizing our cause and desire for CoX to return and we'll always have a shot!