Why COH will not get a server emulator.

Started by Leandro, January 03, 2013, 03:37:38 PM

Brightfires

I just want to be able to play with my bird-things again... Give me that, and I won't care what it's called.  ;D
Taker of screenshots. Player of bird-things.

Lightslinger

I don't care if its a toaster that lets me play CoH again, call it whatever you want, just get it working.

If it would make it easier or faster, I'd be cool with a single player version to start with, that would be fantastic.

mikoroshi

If you see me posting here, you need to tell me to stop it and get back to writing.

houtex

Quote from: Lightslinger on January 15, 2013, 04:02:15 AM
I don't care if its a toaster that lets me play CoH again...

Indeed, I would like a toaster that does that too. 

/Or a brooch. 
//Or a pterodactyl.
///Meh, looks like I picked the wrong week to stop drinking.

Kistulot

Quote from: houtex on January 15, 2013, 07:10:56 AM
Indeed, I would like a toaster that does that too. 

/Or a brooch. 

PAAARAGOOOON CIIITYYYYY...PRISM... POWER!

...yeah I couldn't help it.
Woo! - Argent Girl

Arcana

Quote from: Lightslinger on January 15, 2013, 04:02:15 AM
I don't care if its a toaster that lets me play CoH again, call it whatever you want, just get it working.
I'm pretty sure the mapservers would run on 486/66s.

Minotaurus

I'm surprised that none of the employees snuck a copy of the server code out and put it up on a torrent site.

Arachnion

Quote from: Minotaurus on January 15, 2013, 11:08:23 PM
I'm surprised that none of the employees snuck a copy of the server code out and put it up on a torrent site.

Because the Paragon Studios people are good-hearted, have integrity, and wouldn't just do that.
I'm all dressed up with nowhere to go
Walkin' with a dead man over my shoulder

Waiting for an invitation to arrive
Goin' to a party where no one's still alive

Arcana

Quote from: Minotaurus on January 15, 2013, 11:08:23 PM
I'm surprised that none of the employees snuck a copy of the server code out and put it up on a torrent site.
That would be stupid and impractical.

Codewalker

Quote from: Arcana on January 16, 2013, 12:12:40 AM
That would be stupid and impractical.

Especially since many version control systems use tags heavily and have a way of sneaking personally identifiable information about who checked out the copy in all sorts of places.

Kyriani

Quote from: Arcana on January 16, 2013, 12:12:40 AM
That would be stupid and impractical.

I'm surprised you just haven't written the server code from memory/made it up based on prior knowledge during your last lunch break Arcana. If anyone is capable of doing this I'd have to say it was you... ok maybe it might take a little longer than an hour lunch...  >_>  ya think maybe you could turn your uber brain powers towards such a worthwhile and lofty goal? pretty please?

Starsman

Quote from: Kyriani on January 16, 2013, 03:09:51 PM
I'm surprised you just haven't written the server code from memory/made it up based on prior knowledge during your last lunch break Arcana. If anyone is capable of doing this I'd have to say it was you... ok maybe it might take a little longer than an hour lunch...  >_>  ya think maybe you could turn your uber brain powers towards such a worthwhile and lofty goal? pretty please?

There was a short exchange on this while the official forums were still up. Basically: most people (like Arcanaville herself) that have the skills to likely remake the game, are too busy earning a living with little time to dedicate to such a project. Not to mention, the skills required can get you a lot of money if used to... well, earn money.

Unless we have the money to sustain Arcanaville with her current (unknown) lifestyle without any interruptions, I think expecting her to dedicate herself full time into this is futile, and doing it part-time won't cut it. Even for her, recreating the entire game from scratch would be extremely time consuming.

What we need is either a miracle, or insane levels of patience. With either choice, we also need a lot of people with enough dedication and passion, plus somehow the ability to, dedicate themselves full time (or next to) to the project. These people have to be extremely selfless, because (as I noted earlier) the same time they spend doing this could be spend earning a LOT of money with those same skills.
For the sake of the community: please stop the cultural "research" in your attempt to put blame on the game's cancelation.

It's sickening to see the community sink that low. It's worse to see the community does not get it.

I'm signing off and taking a break, blindly hope things change.

Little Green Frog

https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i1.minus.com%2FikbugFkY0G28M.jpg

Or maybe I am seeing sarcasm where there is none. Still, I think I need to bookmark this image just for your posts. It's the second time already. :P

Starsman

Quote from: Little Green Frog on January 16, 2013, 04:01:16 PM
https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i1.minus.com%2FikbugFkY0G28M.jpg

Or maybe I am seeing sarcasm where there is none. Still, I think I need to bookmark this image just for your posts. It's the second time already. :P

Interesting thing is I cant see the image. Most image hosting services are blocked at work, and I check these forums mostly while at work.

Also, was not being sarcastic. Recreating the whole server engine from scratch would be an insane level of work. Way too many hours. Whoever engages into it really is forefeting a lot of money by not doing profitable work instead, reason I state they would have to be very selfless (if that's the right antonym for "selfish")
For the sake of the community: please stop the cultural "research" in your attempt to put blame on the game's cancelation.

It's sickening to see the community sink that low. It's worse to see the community does not get it.

I'm signing off and taking a break, blindly hope things change.

Little Green Frog

Quote from: Starsman on January 16, 2013, 04:44:52 PM
Interesting thing is I cant see the image. Most image hosting services are blocked at work, and I check these forums mostly while at work.

It's a macro showing Fry from Futurama squinting his eyes while the text reads "not sure if missing the sarcasm or being sarcastic...".

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Also, was not being sarcastic. Recreating the whole server engine from scratch would be an insane level of work. Way too many hours. Whoever engages into it really is forefeting a lot of money by not doing profitable work instead, reason I state they would have to be very selfless (if that's the right antonym for "selfish")

Kiriani's post strikes me as being quite sarcastic and that is why I posted the macro above. Either I am reading too much into Kiriani's post or you have missed the not so serious tone of their message. :)

Starsman

Quote from: Little Green Frog on January 16, 2013, 04:56:30 PMKiriani's post strikes me as being quite sarcastic and that is why I posted the macro above. Either I am reading too much into Kiriani's post or you have missed the not so serious tone of their message. :)

Ah, since I saw no quote and you were right after me thought you meant me (and since I cant see the images not sure if you used it before for me :P)

If he is being sarcastic, yea I missed the sarcasm. But I have heard the line of thought before in the official forums so still feel compelled to toss that post there. Lots of people don't realize how much work it would be and how much anyone would have to forfeit to achieve recreating the servers from scratch.
For the sake of the community: please stop the cultural "research" in your attempt to put blame on the game's cancelation.

It's sickening to see the community sink that low. It's worse to see the community does not get it.

I'm signing off and taking a break, blindly hope things change.

Nightmarer

Quote from: Starsman on January 16, 2013, 05:01:38 PMLots of people don't realize how much work it would be and how much anyone would have to forfeit to achieve recreating the servers from scratch.

Sooo, would that be an emulator then? a simulator? a community recreator? jello?

Tenzhi

Quote from: Nightmarer on January 16, 2013, 05:33:04 PM
Sooo, would that be an emulator then? a simulator? a community recreator? jello?

Delicious bread pudding for the toaster, methinks.
When you insult someone by calling them a "pig" or a "dog" you aren't maligning pigs and dogs everywhere.  The same is true of any term used as an insult.

Little Green Frog

Quote from: Starsman on January 16, 2013, 05:01:38 PM
Ah, since I saw no quote and you were right after me thought you meant me (and since I cant see the images not sure if you used it before for me :P)

Yep, I did! Unfortunately I can't remember in what thread. :)

Quote from: Nightmarer on January 16, 2013, 05:33:04 PM
Sooo, would that be an emulator then? a simulator? a community recreator? jello?

I thought we have settled on hero exfoliator?

Starsman

Quote from: Nightmarer on January 16, 2013, 05:33:04 PM
Sooo, would that be an emulator then? a simulator? a community recreator? jello?

Reimplementation (I think.)
For the sake of the community: please stop the cultural "research" in your attempt to put blame on the game's cancelation.

It's sickening to see the community sink that low. It's worse to see the community does not get it.

I'm signing off and taking a break, blindly hope things change.