New efforts!

[LaughingAlex]

I've "demanded" nothing, so your offense is contrived.  Similarly,  I never said anything about you or your honesty.  The degree to which you make this conversation about you is your responsibility.  I'll own the things I say; you can own your aggrieved interpretations.

What appears to offend you is the notion that someone might not subscribe to the groupthink that makes this place seem so cultish and creepy from time to time.  If you can't stomach someone else's perspective on a set of facts without getting offended, that's a problem.

Y'know what?  it's time to delete my account.  I really don't need another insular little clique in my life.

I don't know what makes you think we are cultish here, we wouldn't be here if we had no faith or optimism in anything.  But coming here to say "nothing is happening" is kind of silly in a nutshell.  It's no different than going here to say "City of heroes sucks" or even going to any other game forums to say the game there sucks.  The whole point of this thread is about the new efforts, and the fact we hadn't gotten news when we were all promised we'd get news if there was a "No" answer to most of us here indicates it's still on going.

But we all have lives and we all do other things besides just stalk the thread here.  Heck, see my sig, I spend far more time playing fallout 4 than I spend here.

Edit: Agree it's likely reaching dead air.

[Golden Aurora]

On a side note, I had a dream last night that I was chatting Acanous on Skype and he told me that City of Heroes was reopening on Monday.

I really do hate those kind of dreams.

[MM3squints]

On another random side note, while playing "The Division" with a friend, he said it reminded him of CoX but less grindy. Kind of laughed because I can see it being CoX because instead of "arresting" people as their lifeless bodies hit the floor, "The Division" calls it as what we think it is.

[Arcana]

Another issue with fiber tapping, there are give always for when it's done.  It's not like in the movies where a guy just puts a little device on the wire and it's instantly read.  The guy trying to tap a fiber optical line has to half tear the cable up, and run the fibers through the tap.  This isn't something thats practical outside of events where someone lets you do so, effectively.

I'm not sure what you mean by "half tear the cable up" but the way you do this is you buy one of these for about a thousand bucks, strip the insulating jacket off the fibers, isolate the fiber you want to tap, and stick the fiber strand gently into the tap.  Then you use standard fiber patch to a receiving fiber transceiver on your laptop, and you're tapping away.  I'm pretty sure a sufficiently industrious person could package the entire thing up in a single small package.

[Arcana]

I don't know what makes you think we are cultish here, we wouldn't be here if we had no faith or optimism in anything.  But coming here to say "nothing is happening" is kind of silly in a nutshell.

Saying "I don't think it is likely anything is going to happen" is, at least in my opinion, a reasonable belief to assert.  Saying "there is no reason to believe anything is going to happen" is an objectively false statement on its face.  Asserting it is a false statement is simply stating a fact.  Claiming that the mere assertion that is false is "smug condescension" is pretty much leaving the venue of reasonable discussion.

Always one to appreciate real irony (not that fake Alanis irony) it is always interesting to me that the offense most often taken in this thread has been the offense that when someone makes a singularly false statement they accuse everyone else of oppression when everyone else agrees they are wrong.  The ironic part is that they want the right to assert everyone else is wrong, but believe it is also their right to do so free from everyone else disagreeing back.

[Arcana]

Oh well, guess this is directed at dead air since I'm SURE they deleted their account.

I'm so sure that I'm not even going to reply to your post to state my agreement.

[LaughingAlex]

I'm not sure what you mean by "half tear the cable up" but the way you do this is you buy one of these for about a thousand bucks, strip the insulating jacket off the fibers, isolate the fiber you want to tap, and stick the fiber strand gently into the tap.  Then you use standard fiber patch to a receiving fiber transceiver on your laptop, and you're tapping away.  I'm pretty sure a sufficiently industrious person could package the entire thing up in a single small package.

Thats kind of what I meant by "half tear the cable up" :).  I think context should be in some peoples vocab here :P.

[LaughingAlex]

On a side note, I had a dream last night that I was chatting Acanous on Skype and he told me that City of Heroes was reopening on Monday.

I really do hate those kind of dreams.

I am noticing people speak of these kinds of dreams more often, in some form or another.

[LadyVamp]

On another random side note, while playing "The Division" with a friend, he said it reminded him of CoX but less grindy. Kind of laughed because I can see it being CoX because instead of "arresting" people as their lifeless bodies hit the floor, "The Division" calls it as what we think it is.

looks interesting but no mice theme'd toons   :(

[srmalloy]

Y'know how it goes. Waking up with that feeling of "GOD I CAN'T WAIT TO GET INTO PARAGON. MY SUPER GROUP NEEDS MY TANK TO RUN A TASKFORCE AND I HAVE CONTACTS IN PEREGRINE THAT I NEED TO CATCH UP WITH AND I HAVE A NEW COSTUME IDEA AND A BUILD TO TRY OUT AND I WANT TO /LEDGESIT FROM A BUILDING IN STEEL CANYON JUST BECAUSE AND..."

*explodes*

And then you're hit with that all-too familiar realization that you can't. And you're all  :'( :'( :'(

I moved to SWTOR after CoH went dark, and I'm still having "dammit, if this was CoH, I could..." moments. Someplace I want to go is forty feet away, but I have to go waaaaay off in some other direction to get there, because I can't fly or jump over a gap, or it's just on the other side of a ten-foot wall I've got no way to get over, or down far enough that I'll die on impact. And every time I play a Sniper, a class that gets a whole extra 5 meters of range on top of the maximum 30m range that's standard for ranged abilities, I think back to my AR/EM Blaster that could Snipe someone more than 240m out, and with Boost Range could use most of her ranged attacks out more than three times my Sniper's range (and it doesn't help that one of the Trooper's companions talks about his time as a sniper in a previous unit and making a shot at 900 meters. And the incongruities -- a Jedi Knight or Sith Warrior can leap 30 meters up or across, but only if there's a target to attack at the end of a jump. Or conveniences -- wishing you could just use Recall Friend on the teammate you're waiting to make their way from halfway across the map to where the rest of you are.

[Reaper]

I'm so sure that I'm not even going to reply to your post to state my agreement.

I see what you did there.   :roll:

[Arcana]

Thats kind of what I meant by "half tear the cable up" :).  I think context should be in some peoples vocab here :P.

The reason why I'm asking is because you said this left easy to detect after effects and was impractical to accomplish.  However, if we're talking about the same cable alterations both of those are false.  You're not going to see the after effects of this unless you happen to look right at the spot on the cable this was done, and sight-inspecting miles of fiber optic cable ain't happening.  Second, this is not only practical to do, it is trivial to do.  I can strip and replace the insulation on fiber optic cable in a way you would never detect unless you were specifically looking for tampering.  Usually fiber cable is wrapped in thick monocolored plastic jacketing that isn't easy to see if it has been tampered with.

I assumed you meant splicing the cable and inserting a visible tap, which would create a detectable break (momentarily) and leave behind a potentially detectable splice point even after the fact.  That at least is consistent with your descriptions.  In context, that is the more reasonable interpretation of what you were saying.

[ivanhedgehog]

look at what the navy is doing with lasers

http://www.sea-technology.com/features/2011/0511/laser_communication.php

[MM3squints]

look at what the navy is doing with lasers

http://www.sea-technology.com/features/2011/0511/laser_communication.php

This is actually a precursor to DARPA's real end game

https://images.weserv.nl/?url=img.gawkerassets.com%2Fimg%2F17bdfbe5kgto7jpg%2Foriginal.jpg

And to be launched off of carriers

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/de/a8/64/dea86449a84921020d8862142ecd24ed.jpg

[Arcana]

look at what the navy is doing with lasers

http://www.sea-technology.com/features/2011/0511/laser_communication.php

I think, at least for the above the waterline case, the Navy is investigating this technology because traditional radio communications have a number of problems, and some of them aren't even tactical.  These systems are often too powerful and too disruptive to use anywhere near a port, for example.  So even with all of the caveats due to weather, attenuation, and line of sight issues, having a high bandwidth non-radio communications system that can be used anywhere in the world without having to ask for permission and without creating logistical problems would be useful.  Every once in a great while someone goofs at Pearl Harbor and turns on something they shouldn't, and it isn't hard to figure out that happened.

Underwater, it is just difficult to communicate in general, so all technologies that can solve any part of that problem for any use case would be interesting to the Navy.

[Arcana]

This is actually a precursor to DARPA's real end game

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/91/d8/04/91d804672591d0fe0107b8a55de3e07b.jpg

[MM3squints]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/91/d8/04/91d804672591d0fe0107b8a55de3e07b.jpg

Team 6?

[ivanhedgehog]

I think, at least for the above the waterline case, the Navy is investigating this technology because traditional radio communications have a number of problems, and some of them aren't even tactical.  These systems are often too powerful and too disruptive to use anywhere near a port, for example.  So even with all of the caveats due to weather, attenuation, and line of sight issues, having a high bandwidth non-radio communications system that can be used anywhere in the world without having to ask for permission and without creating logistical problems would be useful.  Every once in a great while someone goofs at Pearl Harbor and turns on something they shouldn't, and it isn't hard to figure out that happened.

Underwater, it is just difficult to communicate in general, so all technologies that can solve any part of that problem for any use case would be interesting to the Navy.

I was reading about a system being developed(or already finished, hard to tell) that hits a satellite with the laser, eliminating los issues.

[Sinistar]

I moved to SWTOR after CoH went dark, and I'm still having "dammit, if this was CoH, I could..." moments. Someplace I want to go is forty feet away, but I have to go waaaaay off in some other direction to get there, because I can't fly or jump over a gap, or it's just on the other side of a ten-foot wall I've got no way to get over,

I feel your pain, fellow CoH player.  SWTOR was nice for awhile but memories of CoH kept clouding the fun for me.

[Sinistar]

Question: did anyone ever take super jump along with super speed to compensate for certain hurdling problems that SS had?