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Quote from: Taceus Jiwede on March 01, 2016, 09:57:08 PM
I happen to know for a fact this isn't true.  Because before I got deployed as a space marine I served on a naval ship.  We ate the meatloaf and then jumped overboard.  Catching a shark/tuna/sea monster. And then force feeding the fish using regurgitation.  It's a well known fact that all sea life is deathly allergic to meatloaf.  We had to do this because if you were caught fishing they would beat you for 12 hours before making you cuddle with an furless puppy.  So we had to just jump overboard and then just before drowning we would get super human surges of strength.  Using this strength we would propel our self out of the water onto the ship.  If you weren't holding a shark or some other kind of heavy fish you would overshoot and land on the other side.

And what exactly is wrong with furless puppies?

MM3squints

Quote from: ivanhedgehog on March 01, 2016, 10:30:29 PM
I was army, not navy, but I did take several cruises...they do have malls on board and the food was excellent..lobster and prime rib for dinner!! then you could go up to the buffet and graze the desert counters.

Oh man the best thing to see on the carrier is tiger cruises. Tiger cruises is after completing a WestPac, the carrier will pull into Pearl Harbor, then friends and family can sail from Hawaii to San Diego. People always get so excited seeing the carrier, being on board the carrier, then after about 3-6 hours latter, they will eventually ask, "what else is there to do" as if it was a Royal Caribbean cruise. We will tell them, "you're doing it" and the look of excitement will quickly flush away from their faces to the point someone once said, "you do this for 6+ months? This is what prison must feel like."

MM3squints

Quote from: Felderburg on March 01, 2016, 10:39:43 PM
If you have hard and soft shells, you can make a sandwich-style pie by layering the soft with refried beans, and sticking the hard (broken in half) to it, layering the insides, and repeating on top.

Most creative way I ate a taco was make a meat mountain with nachos cheese lava floating out engulfing the forest of shredded lettuce before hitting the lagoon of salsa.

Arcana

Quote from: LaughingAlex on March 01, 2016, 10:14:45 PM
I have to pitch in on this to.  Anyone who watched the history or military channel about navy ships would know that it's better to look at such heavy weights like Aircraft carriers as floating cities, rather than just another boat.  So they aren't going to be ignoring the quality of life of the sailors, and they tend to have room for things like galleys as Arcana just said.

Not just aircraft carriers.  Its not like a naval warship can just find a KFC while out to sea: anything that isn't intended to come back to port every day pretty much has to have a kitchen.  Even this tiny warship that is basically a patrol boat has a kitchen:

https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.naval-technology.com%2Fprojects%2Farmidaleclass%2Fimages%2F6-armidale-boat.jpg

Heck, you can even see what the galley looks like, for realsies: http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/navy/technology/armidale.aspx

kierthos

Quote from: Felderburg on March 01, 2016, 10:39:43 PM
So... why did you take the ASVAB?
Hell, my brothers and I took the ASVAB back in the 80s, mostly because it got us out of a boring class.

And we all scored very high on it, to the point that recruiters from the Army, Navy and Air Force showed interest. The closest any of us came to military service, though, is my one of my brothers who works as a civilian employee for the Department of the Navy.

ivanhedgehog

Quote from: kierthos on March 01, 2016, 11:37:24 PM
Hell, my brothers and I took the ASVAB back in the 80s, mostly because it got us out of a boring class.

And we all scored very high on it, to the point that recruiters from the Army, Navy and Air Force showed interest. The closest any of us came to military service, though, is my one of my brothers who works as a civilian employee for the Department of the Navy.

I took the asvab, joined the army got into intelligence. the navy recruiter was slower than molasses, he tried calling me in my 3rd week of army basic

blacksly

Quote from: ivanhedgehog on March 01, 2016, 07:22:12 PM
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Do they still have Crash Test Dummy 1st Class?

JoshexProxy

Quote from: Arcana on March 01, 2016, 07:47:02 PM
Josh, most naval warships have galleys.  They cook the meals, it isn't supplied to them in its final state.  They stopped catering the US Navy in the 1970's due to budget cuts.

Meal quality tends to be highly variable because humans beings cook, budgets are variable, time is often limited, and the complete DVD collection of Good Eats is not on most units' TO&E.

I know they cook in the galley, they always have, just telling you what they used to do with it back in the good old days. I have no idea why using it to catch fish is against the rules now.

Twisted Toon

Quote from: ivanhedgehog on March 02, 2016, 12:55:04 AM
I took the asvab, joined the army got into intelligence. the navy recruiter was slower than molasses, he tried calling me in my 3rd week of army basic
I tookt the asvab after I grajiated hi skool. Skord reely gud on it two. Thay didn't wunt me becuz I has Skowleeoasis.

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Quote from: JoshexProxy on March 02, 2016, 02:44:45 AM
I know they cook in the galley, they always have, just telling you what they used to do with it back in the good old days. I have no idea why using it to catch fish is against the rules now.

Apart from the obvious - such as "that isn't their job" - there's this...

http://www.seabreeze.com.au/Articles/Fishing/Ciguatera-what-is-it_2040828.aspx

Further reading...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciguatera

"Researchers suggest that ciguatera outbreaks caused by warm climatic conditions propelled the migratory voyages of Polynesians between 1000 and 1400.[7][8]"

That part suggests that your belief that fishing such as you claimed was practised is possibly dubious, as it's been a well known problem to fishermen for a very long time - and so fishing was "most likely" left to those who devoted the proper time and resources as necessary to avoid such complications.

There's also this -

"
In April 2015, fourteen crew members of a potash ship were hospitalized in Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada after consuming tropical fish obtained from international waters.[35] After the incident, Marine Catering Services issued a reminder to seafarers that the UK Food Act makes it illegal for crews to fish for food from their vessels.[36]"

And this part -

"Ciguatera was first described by one of the surgeon's mates, William Anderson, on the crew of HMS Resolution in 1774.[37]"

- pretty much reinforces there's no way it was widely practised in the Navy...

Also possibly the reason salt was used to preserve meats for so long (like the HMS Resolution would have done in 1774!!), I'm guessing?

If you read about the Resolution you'll find it was Captained by James Cook - who founded Australia - which means you'd have learnt about the use of salt "in the old days", to preserve food on such voyages in primary school in Australia, like I did.

Felderburg

Quote from: Arcana on March 01, 2016, 10:52:00 PM
Heck, you can even see what the galley looks like, for realsies: http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/navy/technology/armidale.aspx

Hey that's pretty cool.

Also: they have oranges in the galley! Hooray, the sailors won't get scurvy! ...does this mean we can call Australians "orangies" now?
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Would it come off as whiney and annoying if I said I wished we could maybe get an update if things are still moving along even if super slowly? Or would that breach an NDA if there was one?

Aggelakis

Quote from: etnies445 on March 02, 2016, 08:52:07 AM
Would it come off as whiney and annoying if I said I wished we could maybe get an update if things are still moving along even if super slowly? Or would that breach an NDA if there was one?
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Quote from: Aggelakis on March 02, 2016, 10:37:22 AM
You can wish all you like. Sadly, no amount of wishing changes anything.

As I understand it it's not so much about the wishing as the chanting. A half-hearted mekka lekka hi is worse than none.

Biz

Quote from: Aggelakis on March 02, 2016, 10:37:22 AM
You can wish all you like. Sadly, no amount of wishing changes anything.

Unless....
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Thunder Glove

... I never took or even heard of the ASVAB.  Now I kinda want to take it just to see how I'd score on it, but ... not in a way that would imply that I want to join the military.  (Not that I think they'd take me at my age anyway)

Excidia

I took the ASVAB after a co-worker kept bragging about how well he did on it.  He said the recruiter told him he could have almost any job in any field he wanted.  I decided to try it, talked to his recruiter, scheduled the test for the next Saturday (recruiter was surprised I didn't want time to study or the practice test).  I beat his score.  All so I could rub it in his face.  I had no interest in actually joining.  For the next 8 years every time a new person joined that recruitment office I'd get a phone call about how great my score was and encouraging me to enlist.

I miss those days when my future actually looked bright.  Now my future is best described by a George Orwell quote.

Sucks for me...a couple years later a friend from college joined the Navy and beat my score.  He was nicer about it than I was.

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hejtmane

Quote from: Thunder Glove on March 02, 2016, 02:42:54 PM
... I never took or even heard of the ASVAB.  Now I kinda want to take it just to see how I'd score on it, but ... not in a way that would imply that I want to join the military.  (Not that I think they'd take me at my age anyway)

I never studied or practiced for it but I took the dam thing 4 times in Highschool it was part of my grade I got a free 100 for taking it in JROTC or a big fat 0 for not doing the test. I enlisted split option when i was 17 when I hit my senior year I had every freaking recruiter from Navy, Marine and Airforce calling me because I had really good scores do not even remember what they where but my job selection was wide open. I was like I am already in the Army Reserves like that does not matter you can transfer; which I knew that I had plans on going to college while serving so I just stayed put in the Army reserves spent 12 years serving and miss parts of it to this day.

Biz

I'm noticing a pattern with this test...

A) take test
B) get somewhere from really good to great score
C) tell you that you qualify for lots of jobs
D) get lots of recruiter calls
E) repeat D

I'm thinking it might be a not very elaborate way of inflating your ego and telling you that you're smart so you join up. Unless someone shares a story about doing poorly on this test and not getting any recruiter calls?

hejtmane

Quote from: Biz on March 02, 2016, 05:05:03 PM
I'm noticing a pattern with this test...

A) take test
B) get somewhere from really good to great score
C) tell you that you qualify for lots of jobs
D) get lots of recruiter calls
E) repeat D

I'm thinking it might be a not very elaborate way of inflating your ego and telling you that you're smart so you join up. Unless someone shares a story about doing poorly on this test and not getting any recruiter calls?

They generally will not chase those guys unless their recruiting numbers are terrible; and they need to fill their quotes for cooks etc the jobs no one wants. They usually have a harder time filling technical jobs with qualified people hence calling people with the high scores that qualify for those roles. What is crazy is unless it changed every manual was written at the 8th grade level; lots of the test where open book with the instructor saying hint hint mark down remember and people still failed the test and would wash out of school hence the people they filled in those slots that had lower scores because they could not get enough qualified people.