New efforts!

[Vee]

I think the issue isn't so much that they didn't invest anything but where and with whom.

[brothermutant]

I doubled my investment I think that is good.

Nope, lost 6 (bought 10 bucks worth). But it was still fun dreaming about what to do with all that monies.

[MM3squints]

Nope, lost 6 (bought 10 bucks worth). But it was still fun dreaming about what to do with all that monies.

Well since no one is a multimillionaire let play a new game, what is the craziest/worst/stupid/something with the first three way to loose your lotto winnings in less than 1 week, but in your eyes will be entertaining?

[Arcana]

Three winners, it looks like.  So the $1.5 billion-ish jackpot will be split among the winners, who will get about $500 million each.  (Which - even after taxes, which will reduce that number still further to maybe $200 million or so - is still enough to set anyone up for life, if they're not stupid)

If they take the lump sum instead of the annuity, it will be something like 320 million per person before taxes.  After taxes, depending on where they live, about 160 million.

[Arcana]

Well since no one is a multimillionaire let play a new game, what is the craziest/worst/stupid/something with the first three way to loose your lotto winnings in less than 1 week, but in your eyes will be entertaining?

You take the lump sum, pay necessary taxes and create a trust to hold the rest, and announce to the world you are giving all the money away to charity, *but* you'll give it to the first charity that correctly guesses what six numbers you wrote on a piece of paper and gave to the trust.

[Codewalker]

*but* you'll give it to the first charity that correctly guesses what six numbers you wrote on a piece of paper and gave to the trust.

e, pi, the square root of 2, 42, i, and ... uh ... dammit so close

[Twisted Toon]

Exactly. Who here would turn down even 50k in cash if just given it. But would you piss it away immediately? Of course not, its a small amount. Bigger amount, the bigger the spending.

half of that 50k would go to paying off my student loan. The other half into fixing my car and buying a $10k computer system. :-p

e, pi, the square root of 2, 42, i, and ... uh ... dammit so close

C

[Taceus Jiwede]

Well since no one is a multimillionaire let play a new game, what is the craziest/worst/stupid/something with the first three way to loose your lotto winnings in less than 1 week, but in your eyes will be entertaining?

I would recreate the Texas, Crush crash.  Except I would try not to kill a couple of the spectator's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crush,_Texas

[Arcana]

C

C isn't a number, its a constant.  Because its not dimensionless - it has units - its numerical value depends on what units you select.  It is 299,792,458 m/s, or 299,792.458 km/sec.  In 'Murica, 670,616,629.38 miles per hour.

Codewalker is (perhaps half-seriously) thinking I'd pick "important" numbers, and if so I'd pick 0, 1, pi, e, i, and the powerball number phi.

However, that would be too easy I think.

[darkgob]

0, 1, pi, e, i, and the powerball number phi.

The nerdiest episode of Sesame Street.

[Vee]

picking 0 and 1 as numbers discriminates against ancient greeks  >:(

[Codewalker]

picking 0 and 1 as numbers discriminates against ancient greeks  >:(

Just remember, if you're trying to reprogram a space mine, and the instructions are in Phoenician, be sure to offset any access codes by 1. They would have had to add a 0 at some point to become that technologically advanced.

[Arcana]

Just remember, if you're trying to reprogram a space mine, and the instructions are in Phoenician, be sure to offset any access codes by 1. They would have had to add a 0 at some point to become that technologically advanced.

One really strong fingerprint of Cryptic programming I've noticed is the almost religious way they trip over fencepost errors or strange one-off anomalies.  Like how it seems many CoH leveling unlocks are tied to the level you are when you ding and not the level you *become* when you ding, which is a little odd, or how mission difficulty used to advance before you leveled because of round off error.  Sometimes things started and one and sometimes at zero and sometimes two different things that started in two different places then interact oddly.  Confusing the difference between intervals and counters seemed to be highly prevalent in City of Heroes.

In Star Trek Online, if you start a doff or R&D mission that has, say, a 20 hour timer, you will often see the timer start at 20:00:01 - twenty hours, zero minutes, and one second.  Ten second timers often start counting down from eleven.  That's yet another kind of obvious fencepost or off-by-one error.  While these aren't unique to Cryptic, they just seem so much more common and obvious in Cryptic games.  I have no idea why.

[JaguarX]

That's assuming you just leave the money as a big pile of cash somewhere.  Lets say you do the most conservative thing and buy a bunch of treasury bills that pay something like 2% yield.  That pile of money would throw off $6 million a year.  You could spend $6 million a year forever.

Interestingly, many lottery winners do manage to blow all their money and end up bankrupt.  The problem with big lottery winners is that the numbers can be so large they cease to feel real.  At that point, its possible to spend the money without any notion of its value at an extremely high rate.  Also, large amounts of money can get people into large amounts of trouble.  Like if you don't properly pay taxes on it.  Or trust untrustworthy people to manage it.

yup but I aint going to live forever.

so I figure why risk it doing stupid stuff. But more than likely it probably would end up in a 2% or so account. A while back just for crap and giggles, added up all the stuff I wanted, even stuff I would buy that I didnt really need, everything I desired and barely broke the 6.5 million barrier. And that was me being reckless. With expenditure after that about 500-700 grand give or take a year based off leeway of unexpected stuff, taxes, maintenance, leakage, and stuff.

but yeah some do go broke pretty swiftly. Seen it. Get money and all of a sudden they feel the need for a 25 house staff paying each $90,000, personal chef,  a personal driver, entourage  of security guards, butlers, accountants and financial advisers they pay six figures for a year and dont even listen to the advice,  gambling, buying large boats and planes they never use and get murdered by the maintenance bills, and mostly giving everyone and their momma their money and financing stuff and taking out unneeded loans simply because it was offered instead of simply paying for the stuff outright and throwing their money at any entity that says "corporation" and call it "investing". Three years later, buried in debt and in bankruptcy court. and all the people they gave money too all of a sudden, no where to be found to help them out. Pretty baffling and interesting at the same time at how some people flow through money like it isnt nothing.


me, i would be about the same doing the same stuff personally I do. dont need anyone cooking my food, dont need, people to take care of the house (if I cant do it myself then it's probably too much house anyways. Or get the kids to do it.), definitely not into planes and boats.  Thus my major problem would be what the hell to do with all the bloody money. Most of it probably end up simply going to the kids. Thus my aim probably would be the path of ease of not tying up my money into anything. just somewhere where it can simply sit and dont have to do a bunch of accounting each year or calculate how many treasury bonds and associated paper work. Probably mostly cash, maybe some gold or something of the likes for passing down to the next generation and not for personal use, and the way things are, probably would have to build my own vault. With the rest going to various easy bank accounts. Might have to put some of it overseas so I wont have to worry about trying it up or having to put it here or there or interest rates, or bonds or stuff. The old fashioned way. Me managing it. I dont trust anyone like that. what so they can run off and end up broke because they have sticky fingers? not me. But hell that is another pitfall that yes I seen happen. People start making (or get large amount of money) let someone else manage it, and end up not even knowing how much they have and not noticing the skim scam until it's too late and or IRS knocking at their door. And usually "well so and so suppose to pay my tax bills. Where is so and so? he havent been returning my calls!" dont fly too well in court.

[Victoria Victrix]

Just remember, if you're trying to reprogram a space mine, and the instructions are in Phoenician, be sure to offset any access codes by 1. They would have had to add a 0 at some point to become that technologically advanced.

We just watched that episode!  I've never seen any of the Stargate franchise, and Larry hasn't seen all of the episodes, so we're doing that.

[Teikiatsu]

That makes no sense. Surely there are lots of smart people who are poor but never had a good chance to become rich, and also lots of dumb rich people (*cough* Paris Hilton *cough*) whose fortunes were well guarded by advisers hired by the family, who never had a chance to completely fail. Give them all the same amount of wealth, and surely some will be poor and some will be rich... and some who are poor were originally poor, and the converse. But not all who are poor will remain poor, nor all who are rich will remain rich.

And it takes some special cluelessness to not put away even 10% of lottery winnings so as to avoid becoming actually broke. I can see someone blowing most of the winnings and having little to show for it, but blowing all of it to the point where you're dirt poor after some time almost takes deliberate stupidity. Even buying unnecessary properties and cars and such shouldn't cause it, as once you're broke you sell them all for 10% of what you paid for them, and still end up with a decent amount of money and hopefully a lesson thoroughly learned. I really think that all of the stories about millionaires (lottery winners, rock & roll stars, former athletes, etc) who lost all their wealth and ended up dirt poor are very rare stories that appear more common just because the commonplace "millionaire invests most of his money, blows the rest on nothing at all, then lives off the investments" is just a boring story.

People who know how to handle money would have more money at the end of the 10 years.  People who don't know how to handle money would have less money at the end of ten years.

There are more people who don't know how to handle money than there are people who do.

People who know how to handle money tend to become wealthy, or at least they have more money than most people.

[Thunder Glove]

C isn't a number, its a constant.  Because its not dimensionless - it has units - its numerical value depends on what units you select.  It is 299,792,458 m/s, or 299,792.458 km/sec.  In 'Murica, 670,616,629.38 miles per hour.

Codewalker is (perhaps half-seriously) thinking I'd pick "important" numbers, and if so I'd pick 0, 1, pi, e, i, and the powerball number phi.

However, that would be too easy I think.

Unless he was talking about the Euler–Mascheroni constant, originally represented as "C" (though these days usually represented by lowercase gamma, "γ").  I used to have an old math encyclopedia that still listed it as C.

[Ultimate15]

If they're not posting, they don't have any information to tell us. Along with what darkgob said, additional pestering doesn't magically create new information. I'm pretty sure they know we're waiting. We don't have to remind them.

I think if they're not posting, that means they don't have any information they are allowed to tell us. The deal could be signed, sealed and delivered for all we know - but there could be some type of legal stipulation that would prohibit them from making a formal announcement about it.

But, I agree with the notion that once they are allowed and/or permitted to say something, they will - they know we're all waiting on pins and needles here lol. I'm sympathetic to patience being waned with how long this process has taken, but it was ALWAYS going to take this long. We're not tying our shoes here, people. We're negotiating with a foreign company to re-release the rights to a 7 year gaming title that was by far the most successful of the entire superhero-themed MMORPG genre.

We are not entitled or have any rights to be privy to any information before the proper authorities at play here are allowed to disclose said information to us.

[Soul Resonance]

I think if they're not posting, that means they don't have any information they are allowed to tell us. The deal could be signed, sealed and delivered for all we know - but there could be some type of legal stipulation that would prohibit them from making a formal announcement about it.

But, I agree with the notion that once they are allowed and/or permitted to say something, they will - they know we're all waiting on pins and needles here lol. I'm sympathetic to patience being waned with how long this process has taken, but it was ALWAYS going to take this long. We're not tying our shoes here, people. We're negotiating with a foreign company to re-release the rights to a 7 year gaming title that was by far the most successful of the entire superhero-themed MMORPG genre.

We are not entitled or have any rights to be privy to any information before the proper authorities at play here are allowed to disclose said information to us.

Look at it this way: like ya'll said, this game is pretty popular in the superhero genre(which is pretty much just CoH, maybe a smidge of DC because..name recognition) and NC offered to sell i23, I don't think a company that hates or wants to keep a game offers to sell it to a new growing company(MWM, who would then hand it off to a third company, which I'm sure is still being hashed out :D). Wonder if this would be the case for any other superhero MMO around :P

[Felderburg]

In the last star trek movie, they made starships irrelevant by creating overpowered personal transporters and then found a cure for death.  That's some pretty shoddy world building.

Just gonna throw it out there that transwarp beaming was introduced in the first movie. I've seen an article or two decrying its use in the second, but honestly, the invention of a transwarp transporter is the logical extension of the transwarp beaming formula introduced in the first movie.

I wonder would which be easier assuming a COX fan DID win the Powerball?

1. ...contract Cryptic...
2. ...hire Cryptic...

Why Cryptic?

If CoX fan did win powerball I don't think buying the game would be the first on their to do list..... :)

It's true, I had forgotten that if I won I might want to invest in CoH until I visited these forums.

I Won! 4$ woot

Me too!