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Started by Ironwolf, March 06, 2014, 03:01:32 PM

LadyVamp

Quote from: chuckv3 on October 22, 2015, 02:13:32 PM
What I have still on my bucket list: and all mastermind task force, either zombies or robots for theme reasons (team "zombie apocalypse" or team "robot uprising").

I'm sure it would be your basic "wall of pets overruns everything while the team points and laughs" scenario.

more like team cries over lag
No Surrender!

Heroette

Quote from: Teikiatsu on October 22, 2015, 10:52:54 AM
I ran in an all-Blaster STF.  We took down Black Scorpion but we could not make it past Mako.  Didn't even try Widow and Scirocco.

I also ran an all blaster ITF.  We couldn't take down Romy, so we gave up.  But up until then, it was awesome fun.

The most fun one I ran was an All Storm Def ITF.  That was the most chaos-y ITF ever.

Super Firebug

Quote from: chuckv3 on October 22, 2015, 02:13:32 PM
What I have still on my bucket list: and all mastermind task force, either zombies or robots for theme reasons (team "zombie apocalypse" or team "robot uprising").

I'm sure it would be your basic "wall of pets overruns everything while the team points and laughs" scenario.

Be ready for lots of noise if you go with a robot-MM team. I was on a team with three of them, and, when we moved from one place to another on a mission map, the clanking sounded like we were throwing empty metal garbage cans down several flights of stairs.
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Remaugen

LadyVamp has it right. All MM teams and TFs were horrible lagfests for me. I was getting video maybe one or two frames out of 60. When things cleaned up it was only because most of the pets were dead.

But then a lot of trials got like that for me too. . .

But I have to admit, it was pretty freaking cool seeing an army of ninjas charging into battle!
We're almost there!  ;D

The RNG hates me.

worldweary

Quote from: LadyVamp on October 22, 2015, 03:02:58 PM
It is and not all TFs can be done.  They're good at mowing down minions and LTs and Bosses but not much else.  Still a lot of fun though.

If Blasters have the highest damage I wonder if all Scrapper teams would have the same trouble running the same TF's?Did you try again with the Blaster team to run other TF's?

LadyVamp

Quote from: worldweary on October 22, 2015, 05:38:22 PM
If Blasters have the highest damage I wonder if all Scrapper teams would have the same trouble running the same TF's?Did you try again with the Blaster team to run other TF's?

most of the non-villain, elite boss TFs are doable with an all blaster or scrapper team.  Respec TFs for example.  But ITF, STF weren't with either.  Those need a brute or tank with buff support to hold the agro.  The 6 blaster, 1 def/troller, 1 tank is doable though.  The mostly scrapper works well too.  Other than the lagfest, the all mm usually works too.  Did succeed at STF using all mms once.  took coordination via ventrillo to get it done though.  GW kept cutting down pets. Three of us were daemon/dark mms, and we did get enough control on her to win the fight with her.  After that, almost too easy.
No Surrender!

Ironwolf

The key is the buffs and debuffs.

With a Sonic and Radiation blast set on your team you should be able to defeat most AV's. The -Res and -Def are the keys then throw in a Ice blaster with the -Recharge you should be able to do them all except a few TF's.

I have done an all blaster ITF and we did fine since we did have my Sonic/Ice blaster and a Rad/Mental.

If you don't have the debuffs - you can't overcome some AV's health recharge.

Thunder Glove

I only had one blaster, Elec/Elec, and he never felt quite right.  But if/when the game comes back, I'd be up for an ITF with a Beam/Devices Blaster who's been gestating in my mind for a while. :D

ivanhedgehog

Quote from: worldweary on October 22, 2015, 05:38:22 PM
If Blasters have the highest damage I wonder if all Scrapper teams would have the same trouble running the same TF's?Did you try again with the Blaster team to run other TF's?

blasters only had high damage, scrappers had just as high damage and good mitigation and mez protection. that made a huge difference.

Vee

Quote from: LadyVamp on October 22, 2015, 05:51:03 PM
most of the non-villain, elite boss TFs are doable with an all blaster or scrapper team.  Respec TFs for example.  But ITF, STF weren't with either.  Those need a brute or tank with buff support to hold the agro.  The 6 blaster, 1 def/troller, 1 tank is doable though.  The mostly scrapper works well too.  Other than the lagfest, the all mm usually works too.  Did succeed at STF using all mms once.  took coordination via ventrillo to get it done though.  GW kept cutting down pets. Three of us were daemon/dark mms, and we did get enough control on her to win the fight with her.  After that, almost too easy.

I see no reason an all scrapper team couldn't easily beat ITF. my widow and my friend's PB finished the last two mishes of it after the rest of the team left because they were dying too much. We did have the -regen from poison dart but the damage output from 8 scraps should easily make up for that. STF is whole other kettle of fish of course.

HEATSTROKE

Quote from: worldweary on October 22, 2015, 03:31:09 AM
This is something I never got to see.I wonder if an all Blaster team would be the toughest (ALL whatever)
to run?Sounds like it would be intense.

Actually its not..

did an All Blaster ITF....

It was Glorious.. 8 blasters nuking mobs at different times... In fact it wasnt that hard at all..

Having a Rad or Sonic Blaster as Ironwolf stated is a big help... fortunately.. I have a Two Rad Blasters..

Aggelakis

Quote from: LadyVamp on October 22, 2015, 05:51:03 PM
most of the non-villain, elite boss TFs are doable with an all blaster or scrapper team.  Respec TFs for example.  But ITF, STF weren't with either.  Those need a brute or tank with buff support to hold the agro.
I was part of an all-scrapper ITF. Rommy took a while but one person stood taunting in the AVs and the rest of us whittled the heal fluffy down with ranged attacks. (vet, epic, whatever we had) then dogpiled Rommy.
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LadyVamp

Quote from: Aggelakis on October 22, 2015, 07:20:11 PM
I was part of an all-scrapper ITF. Rommy took a while but one person stood taunting in the AVs and the rest of us whittled the heal fluffy down with ranged attacks. (vet, epic, whatever we had) then dogpiled Rommy.

Gratz on it.  I've never seen it done myself but knew the tank/brute with healer plus dmg dealers was doable.  Talking of STF/ITF with all 1 class toons, the all Defender and all corruptor teams were a lot of fun.
No Surrender!

JoshexProxy

I formed a random ITF once, everyone tht day wanted to use their MM the team took a while to form then people said "wait let me switch cause we can;t do it like this, no one here can taunt the nictus." I was like, "lets just try it."

piece o'cake IMO, everyone was surprised, rommy didn't stand a chance it was just too much damage from too many sources. can't heal back that much damage, it even surpasses the AV heal and regen cap.

all MM cape mish is a cinch too.

HEATSTROKE

The beauty of CoH.. not needing a particular archetype or build to get something done.

ivanhedgehog

and the best spec for any AT? the one you had fun using. I had 34 50's to choose from. if I felt like a controller, I had many to choose from...same with blasters, defenders, mm's etc.

LadyVamp

Quote from: ivanhedgehog on October 23, 2015, 02:22:27 AM
and the best spec for any AT? the one you had fun using. I had 34 50's to choose from. if I felt like a controller, I had many to choose from...same with blasters, defenders, mm's etc.

Truer words have never been spoken.
No Surrender!

JoshexProxy

Quote from: ivanhedgehog on October 23, 2015, 02:22:27 AM
and the best spec for any AT? the one you had fun using. I had 34 50's to choose from. if I felt like a controller, I had many to choose from...same with blasters, defenders, mm's etc.

And soon soon you shall have them again.

Though as per my title on my main account [citation needed]. I have no evidence to support that conclusion other than just hopeful ambition.

LaughingAlex

Quote from: Ironwolf on October 22, 2015, 05:54:53 PM
The key is the buffs and debuffs.

With a Sonic and Radiation blast set on your team you should be able to defeat most AV's. The -Res and -Def are the keys then throw in a Ice blaster with the -Recharge you should be able to do them all except a few TF's.

I have done an all blaster ITF and we did fine since we did have my Sonic/Ice blaster and a Rad/Mental.

If you don't have the debuffs - you can't overcome some AV's health recharge.

You could also have a super good kin with brutes/scrappers or even a lot of corruptors.  The raw DPS kills them in seconds.  Truthfully the AV's that tended to out-regen some teams were really just dps checks more then anything.  How you achieved that DPS however, well we had a lot of means to do that and debuffs were a viable way to.  But I recall reading that AV resistances to debuff effects meant that -regen wasn't the best, as it was heavily resisted consistently, but -resistance beat the pants off everything else for them.
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JoshexProxy

Quote from: LadyVamp on October 22, 2015, 05:51:03 PM
most of the non-villain, elite boss TFs are doable with an all blaster or scrapper team.  Respec TFs for example.  But ITF, STF weren't with either.  Those need a brute or tank with buff support to hold the agro.  The 6 blaster, 1 def/troller, 1 tank is doable though.  The mostly scrapper works well too.  Other than the lagfest, the all mm usually works too.  Did succeed at STF using all mms once.  took coordination via ventrillo to get it done though.  GW kept cutting down pets. Three of us were daemon/dark mms, and we did get enough control on her to win the fight with her.  After that, almost too easy.

I agree with Vee, I've seen an all scrapper team do it, technically it wasn't all scrapper, I was an invul tank on it but I was completely unenhanced at the time so I couldn't even handle the nictus, the scrappers did all the work IMO.

A good scrapper can be as tough as a moderate to high tank easily able to tank the nictus or rommy.