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Started by Ironwolf, March 06, 2014, 03:01:32 PM

Serpine

Quote from: Super Firebug on July 12, 2014, 12:31:26 AM(If it were me, I'd probably choose El Super Mexicano.
I prefer El Supernatural Mexicano myself, where you can browse the Nachonomicon for bean-dip secret man was not meant to know.  Though O'Phidian's is always great for a pub crawl. :)
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downix

Quote from: PSI-on on July 12, 2014, 01:32:47 AM
I'll admit I had one once, when Dragon Age 2 came out, and ONLY cause they tied in game items and content to some stupid little Facebook app game, but once I got all the stuff for Dragon Age 2 from it, I quickly forgot about the Facebook account all together...now if only I could get through Dragon Age Origins.
DA!

PSI-on

Quote from: downix on July 12, 2014, 01:32:44 AM
Since it only began rumblings after Facebook became noisy, my assumption would be to focus there.

Hell, I saw someone had put up a Youtube video earlier, and that's just asking for trouble.

Well, if that be the case, devil's Advocate, do we know anyone in charge of those Facebook groups who might be willing to help the cause by trimming the posts or something? I can't think of any other control we could do. Speaking for myself mostly, I'm only focused on and posting here. I can't imagine any of us who regularly post here are posting on Facebook on this other than trying to funnel them here.
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Fanta

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Quote from: PSI-on on July 12, 2014, 01:30:13 AM
except if you read Iron's post, he said:

"They are asking everyone to relax for a while and let them get the deal DONE. NCSoft is the one who is not liking it."

Which means that it is NCSoft who is upset with all the wild speculations and things getting out of hand (perhaps only on Facebook), which is what I'M responding to in the post you quoted...context.

Can you say that as fact, or is this more speculation that we've all come to know. Is NC looking at this thread.

Edit: I think not.
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PSI-on

Quote from: Fanta on July 12, 2014, 01:39:30 AM
Can you say that as fact, or is this more speculation that we've all come to know. Is NC looking at this thread, or is there a business concern beyond FB

Again, context, THAT is what I was TRYING to ask him. All we know from what he said is that NCSoft doesn't like the noise, which is why I asked where were NCSoft looking?
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Angel Phoenix77

Quote from: PSI-on on July 12, 2014, 01:35:27 AM
Well, if that be the case, devil's Advocate, do we know anyone in charge of those Facebook groups who might be willing to help the cause by trimming the posts or something? I can't think of any other control we could do. Speaking for myself mostly, I'm only focused on and posting here. I can't imagine any of us who regularly post here are posting on Facebook on this other than trying to funnel them here.
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PSI-on

Quote from: Angel Phoenix77 on July 12, 2014, 01:42:43 AM
from the city of heroes fb page Robert DiGregorio I believe is in charge of that fb webpage.

Weird, why do I think I know that name. Huh, well is that gentleman among us here? Would he help? I might have heard of him, but I don't know him sadly.
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HEATSTROKE

 I think what many people might be neglecting is people going to NC Softs own page and bombarding it.. Unfortunately even though I have seen people ask the pages to keep quiet and just hope for the best, the reality is that Facebook is a type of mob mentality,, I have seen Downix try and calm the masses as well as Ironwolf..

My suggestion is this to Ironwolf.. stop giving updates. I wouldnt give them on Facebook.. nor would I give them here until something concrete is established and hope the noise dies out..  I would keep those you trust or have established relationships behind the scences with information.. like Tony V and others.. but thats it..

Serpine

Quote from: Fanta on July 12, 2014, 01:39:30 AMCan you say that as fact, or is this more speculation that we've all come to know. Is NC looking at this thread.
Edit: I think not.
My view is we should assume they are looking everywhere and do our best to keep the tone under control.  There is no logical downside to being calm, but there is a potential downside to not being so.

Quote from: HEATSTROKE on July 12, 2014, 01:48:47 AMMy suggestion is this to Ironwolf.. stop giving updates.
Of course a lessening in his update / comment pace could be misread by the larger population and cause them to churn even more. Damage control is not a role I'd relish having. :)
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Ironwolf

It appears to be the Facebook folks mostly.

If you note I did point them out expressly. I don't think this site registers on their radar. However a lot of people are linked to NCSoft. It really doesn't help when you are bashing the old boss when trying to get a new boss :)

I also as I said before saw a real difference in what I had been told and what NCSoft did and why. While I don't excuse all they did in the sunsetting - I do understand it. It does us zero good to be angry at them now, let's move ahead!

Fanta

Quote from: HEATSTROKE on July 12, 2014, 01:48:47 AM
I think what many people might be neglecting is people going to NC Softs own page and bombarding it.. Unfortunately even though I have seen people ask the pages to keep quiet and just hope for the best, the reality is that Facebook is a type of mob mentality,, I have seen Downix try and calm the masses as well as Ironwolf..

My suggestion is this to Ironwolf.. stop giving updates. I wouldnt give them on Facebook.. nor would I give them here until something concrete is established and hope the noise dies out..  I would keep those you trust or have established relationships behind the scences with information.. like Tony V and others.. but thats it..

At this point, I agree. Tell the new team not to bother with us until they have the game. I completely understand. To hell with the children that can't be grown ups!
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PSI-on

Quote from: Ironwolf on July 12, 2014, 01:51:02 AM
It appears to be the Facebook folks mostly.

If you note I did point them out expressly. I don't think this site registers on their radar. However a lot of people are linked to NCSoft. It really doesn't help when you are bashing the old boss when trying to get a new boss :)

I also as I said before saw a real difference in what I had been told and what NCSoft did and why. While I don't excuse all they did in the sunsetting - I do understand it. It does us zero good to be angry at them now, let's move ahead!

I used to stop by their page and see what people posted on their front page when the closure happened, but ever since this started I've been avoiding it, I just don't even want to see people bad mouthing them (only way I had to let off steam, watching them still getting hate for it), and just wanted to pretend that everything continued as "normal" while we were in on this...have things on FB really gotten that bad in the meantime?
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Felderburg

Quote from: downix on July 12, 2014, 01:32:44 AM
Hell, I saw someone had put up a Youtube video earlier, and that's just asking for trouble.

I did a quick google search - there are two four videos from today the last hour (!!) that have titles saying that the game is working, and the description is a url shortened link for downloading "the game". I do not think it is the game. I flagged the videos.
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Ironwolf

Quote from: Serpine on July 12, 2014, 01:49:05 AM
My view is we should assume they are looking everywhere and do our best to keep the tone under control.  There is no logical downside to being calm, but there is a potential downside to not being so.
Of course a lessening in his update / comment pace could be misread by the larger population and cause them to churn even more. Damage control is not a role I'd relish having. :)

I knew doing this job would not be easy. You may have noticed not once have I engaged in arguing or getting angry. My job here is really simple - be a cheerleader and spread what news I can - so far it has all been good. I felt from the start only relentless positive action would work. I believed in myself, all of you and finally the folks trying to make the purchase. I am still very confident in all of you and I know this community can rally and show positive actions.

I edited my timeline for a more positive light as well.

PSI-on

Quote from: Fanta on July 12, 2014, 01:56:13 AM
At this point, I agree. Tell the new team not to bother with us until they have the game. I completely understand. To hell with the children that can't be grown ups!

I hate this idea, and seeing it annoyed me to no end....but if Facebook is more out of control than here...I hate to say it but that might be for the best, however how would we nudge them to calm down?
Please don't send blind requests in games to me, I learned to ignore them in CoX, no offense meant. (this is only here until I can figure out how to put it in my actual profile on here.)

Samuraiko

Before I completely forget my manners...

To the folks who are working on this deal - if you're reading this thread, and you see this post, thank you.

Thank you for trying, even if for some reason, things don't work out. Thank you for understanding that taking things slowly, minimizing risks and concerns and potential trouble spots, is far more advantageous in the long run than blitzing through negotiations. Thank you for not giving up even in the face of adversity, despair, and general pigheaded stupidity. Thank you for continuing the effort to bring us home.

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Fanta

Quote from: PSI-on on July 12, 2014, 01:59:26 AM
I hate this idea, and seeing it annoyed me to no end....but if Facebook is more out of control than here...I hate to say it but that might be for the best, however how would we nudge them to calm down?

Stop making demands.  ;)
I am an ass, but don't we all love a good ass!

PSI-on

Quote from: Fanta on July 12, 2014, 02:07:16 AM
Stop making demands.  ;)

How many times are you going to take me out of context? I simply said I agreed with the suggested and that it might be for the best, I in no way said it must be done, nor did I demand for it to be so.
Please don't send blind requests in games to me, I learned to ignore them in CoX, no offense meant. (this is only here until I can figure out how to put it in my actual profile on here.)

Deadflame2

Quote from: Samuraiko on July 12, 2014, 02:00:56 AM
Before I completely forget my manners...

To the folks who are working on this deal - if you're reading this thread, and you see this post, thank you.

Thank you for trying, even if for some reason, things don't work out. Thank you for understanding that taking things slowly, minimizing risks and concerns and potential trouble spots, is far more advantageous in the long run than blitzing through negotiations. Thank you for not giving up even in the face of adversity, despair, and general pigheaded stupidity. Thank you for continuing the effort to bring us home.

Michelle
aka
Samuraiko/Dark_Respite

10000% this!

I was extremely sad when CoX went dark.  I played for 8 years.  The other day I happened upon this accidentally and my heart skipped a beat.  It's been two very long years and I would love nothing more than to log in and create a new character (or play an old one if possible).  Thank you for this feeling of hope and excitement!

Edit: Haha thanks for the title! ;)
Reminder: No game = No data, no characters...nothing.  However, no data/characters != No game.

Fanta

Quote from: PSI-on on July 12, 2014, 02:10:16 AM
How many times are you going to take me out of context? I simply said I agreed with the suggested and that it might be for the best, I in no way said it must be done, nor did I demand for it to be so.

Quote from: PSI-on on July 12, 2014, 01:30:13 AM
except if you read Iron's post, he said:

"They are asking everyone to relax for a while and let them get the deal DONE. NCSoft is the one who is not liking it."

Which means that it is NCSoft who is upset with all the wild speculations and things getting out of hand (perhaps only on Facebook), which is what I'M responding to in the post you quoted...context.

I think Ironwolf can explain this best. Context. It has nothing to do with the us.
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