Author Topic: Robocop (2014)  (Read 5430 times)

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Re: Robocop (2014)
« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2013, 12:55:55 AM »
I think I just realized why this movie concept doesn't work for me. Not as Robocop, or as hard scifi or even as scifi action.

if you take the military grade body armor and replace it with standard VA issue prosthesis, and take the guns and replace them with a hammer and a work belt (or a set of rehab stress balls) and make no other changes... this becomes a lifetime movie of the week.  :o
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Re: Robocop (2014)
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2013, 02:47:37 AM »
If someone was stupid enough to green light this movie, can we find them to green light picking up CoX?

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Re: Robocop (2014)
« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2013, 11:36:56 PM »
The wort part is this is probably why the masterful 'RoboCop: The Musical' was yanked off of youtube.

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Re: Robocop (2014)
« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2013, 05:41:49 AM »
Oh look.  Another remake of a movie that did not need to be remade... >:(
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« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2013, 05:51:41 AM »
Oh look.  Another remake of a movie that did not need to be remade... >:(
Well all the good idea for original ideas have been taken. Plus with the crack down on powering one's nose while at work kind of killed creativity. :p Thus they are left with remakes, graphic novels and comics, books, and remakes of remakes, and sequels.

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« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2013, 06:13:54 PM »
That's not true... there's plenty of creativity left out there, an hour on youtube proves that. The problem is remakes are 'safe.' Retold ideas are low risk and often come with a built in audience (how many of us went and saw batman begins or will go see GB because we loved the previous batman or ghost busters flicks?). And Hollywood has become substantially risk adverse. Rather than telling hundreds of small, well told stories each year, the entire model now centers around the fact that there's 52 weeks in a year, and there can only be "one big movie" for each of those weeks. (maybe less for a REALLY big movie like Avengers that might "stay on top" for two or three weeks)  And so, using this top heavy approach, well, you don't want to float your studio's ass on a two hundred million dollar action movie or a seventy million dollar oscar contender, so you take the safe bet wherever you can.

and then it becomes a self-fulfilling system. if that's the only movies you're producing, those are the only movies people will/can go see. and if those are the only movies people go see, then the numbers grow in support of making more of them, kind of like how if all you're selling is hamburgers, then your hamburger sales look fabulous compared to imaginary hotdog sales. And the slide into mediocrity only accelerates because so many smaller theaters have been killed off by the switch to digital projection, so there's no market for anyone who might want to show art house movies, or dollar shows that have been out for a few weeks, or marginal pics that exist between art-house and big cinema.

it's a sad slide based on a largely broken understanding of how the film going economy works. (one that largely mirrors how reality tv has chased scripted tv off the air on a lot of stations, thankfully in that case the internet is starting to fill the void)
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« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2013, 06:25:37 PM »
That's not true... there's plenty of creativity left out there, an hour on youtube proves that. The problem is remakes are 'safe.' Retold ideas are low risk and often come with a built in audience (how many of us went and saw batman begins or will go see GB because we loved the previous batman or ghost busters flicks?). And Hollywood has become substantially risk adverse. Rather than telling hundreds of small, well told stories each year, the entire model now centers around the fact that there's 52 weeks in a year, and there can only be "one big movie" for each of those weeks. (maybe less for a REALLY big movie like Avengers that might "stay on top" for two or three weeks)  And so, using this top heavy approach, well, you don't want to float your studio's ass on a two hundred million dollar action movie or a seventy million dollar oscar contender, so you take the safe bet wherever you can.

and then it becomes a self-fulfilling system. if that's the only movies you're producing, those are the only movies people will/can go see. and if those are the only movies people go see, then the numbers grow in support of making more of them, kind of like how if all you're selling is hamburgers, then your hamburger sales look fabulous compared to imaginary hotdog sales. And the slide into mediocrity only accelerates because so many smaller theaters have been killed off by the switch to digital projection, so there's no market for anyone who might want to show art house movies, or dollar shows that have been out for a few weeks, or marginal pics that exist between art-house and big cinema.

it's a sad slide based on a largely broken understanding of how the film going economy works. (one that largely mirrors how reality tv has chased scripted tv off the air on a lot of stations, thankfully in that case the internet is starting to fill the void)
of course. but the ":P" went over your head.

It's a common joke that in the days of the most creative ideas was the result of powdering the nose (which tends to make people partake in risky behaviors such as coming up with new unproven ideas with 100s of millions riding on it.) Without the powder, the mind is clear and thus not keen on taking risks thus going the safe route.

Youtube, meh, some creative stuff out there but it's no better than Hollywood. Lots of copyrighted materials posted and rehashed ideas. Back in the day when it was actually YOU tube, there was some stuff but after a while, mostly people posting music that isn't theirs, or singing songs of other artists instead of their own, playing a video game that they didn't make, and a bunch of false ones (Rick Rolling), with some actual creative stuff sprinkled in there. Just like Hollywood now.  The difference is that you tubers usually don't have millions on the line and are doing it just to be doing it so it's even worse for them because they lose nothing at actually being creative and using you tube what it was actually meant to be used for which didn't include posting copyrighted materials.

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Re: Robocop (2014)
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2013, 10:37:02 AM »
Somebody better buy something for a dollar.  And Sam Jackson's hair looks silly.

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« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2013, 06:11:52 PM »
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