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Re: OK, what now? I need a private server or the ability to run my own.
« Reply #620 on: July 19, 2013, 03:48:36 PM »
L2 was an active game when that setup was operating. (Still is, but that's not the point.) Also no one here is looking at selling access, insofar as anyone is doing anything. Not that any of this makes a private CoH server "safer," but it's less open to detection, even if only slightly.
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Re: OK, what now? I need a private server or the ability to run my own.
« Reply #621 on: July 19, 2013, 05:13:24 PM »
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Although I wonder, what are the chances of Icons becoming a sort of "private server" in the future? Think that is feasible? I think many ex-coxers by now heard of Icon, and so far it seems individual can "connect" to it, but say if somehow they were linked to each other or could connect to another's version of Icon as a "guest" of some sort. Or somethign of the likes.

pretty much zero, Codewalker and those following the icon thread both agree that it will always be a client-side only thing. Nothing remains resident in the game once you turn it off from one instance to the next including any toon you create, and so much of the game's mechanics depend on spawns and server generated events that simply don't exist in the game client that it's technically infeasable for it to ever be much more than it is right now, which is a costume generator with limited access to a static world stored entirely on a computer.
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Re: OK, what now? I need a private server or the ability to run my own.
« Reply #622 on: July 19, 2013, 05:42:07 PM »
pretty much zero, Codewalker and those following the icon thread both agree that it will always be a client-side only thing. Nothing remains resident in the game once you turn it off from one instance to the next including any toon you create, and so much of the game's mechanics depend on spawns and server generated events that simply don't exist in the game client that it's technically infeasable for it to ever be much more than it is right now, which is a costume generator with limited access to a static world stored entirely on a computer.
ah, ok then.

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Re: OK, what now? I need a private server or the ability to run my own.
« Reply #623 on: July 19, 2013, 05:46:13 PM »
Uhm.  No.  No they don't.

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=11786

Ummm yes, they do:
Lineage 2 private servers:
http://www.topgamesites.net/lineage2

Aion private servers:
http://topofgames.com/Aion/

I keep saying this and have posted these links before. I swear people at NCSoft are probably shaking their heads saying make a private server what is the problem with you guys? Seriously - just do a very simple google - Lineage 2 private servers - Aion private servers. You will find literally hundreds openly advertised.

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Re: OK, what now? I need a private server or the ability to run my own.
« Reply #624 on: July 19, 2013, 06:02:11 PM »
Ummm yes, they do:
Lineage 2 private servers:
http://www.topgamesites.net/lineage2

Aion private servers:
http://topofgames.com/Aion/

I keep saying this and have posted these links before. I swear people at NCSoft are probably shaking their heads saying make a private server what is the problem with you guys? Seriously - just do a very simple google - Lineage 2 private servers - Aion private servers. You will find literally hundreds openly advertised.

yeah also of note, there do seem to be City of heroes private servers listed on that site. Under city of heroes category, number 20, 21, 4, 25, 30, 36, and probably more. Well then, seems, according to that site, topofgames.com, sooooo... seems like there are many places that people looking for a private server can go to now already.

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Re: OK, what now? I need a private server or the ability to run my own.
« Reply #625 on: July 19, 2013, 06:15:21 PM »
OK...

#4 - 404 (not kidding)
#20 - more like a Cityville clone
#21 - Cityville clone (called "HAHGOTYA"; gofigure)
#25 - Yeah, really, don't click on that one. I'm serious. Porn.
#26 - Server not found
#30 - Isn't related. It's a Romanian photography site.
#31 - Cityville clone. Seriously with these?
#36 - dead link

It says there is a second page, but the first page only goes to #43. Frankly, if someone here has a server link that they've tried and can vouch for it, I'm not sure how willing I would be to try one of these.
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Re: OK, what now? I need a private server or the ability to run my own.
« Reply #626 on: July 19, 2013, 06:27:52 PM »
OK...

#4 - 404 (not kidding)
#20 - more like a Cityville clone
#21 - Cityville clone (called "HAHGOTYA"; gofigure)
#25 - Yeah, really, don't click on that one. I'm serious. Porn.
#26 - Server not found
#30 - Isn't related. It's a Romanian photography site.
#31 - Cityville clone. Seriously with these?
#36 - dead link

It says there is a second page, but the first page only goes to #43. Frankly, if someone here has a server link that they've tried and can vouch for it, I'm not sure how willing I would be to try one of these.

interesting.

I wonder how many of those type of links, that seem to be titled and categorized in not a clear and precise manner, exists for other "private servers".

Glad I didnt click on them, but now it doesnt seem like a very reputable site to look for private servers.

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Re: OK, what now? I need a private server or the ability to run my own.
« Reply #627 on: July 19, 2013, 07:02:15 PM »
Would someone actually get paid and be on the clock while reading a 32 page thread on this forum?

Is someone hired to actively look for private servers for CoH?

If there's a cease & desist letter, it would happen because someone unrelated to the corporation reported a private server to them. I can't imagine NCSoft going through everything on this forum to find it. If it's the case of someone reporting it, there's no way to stop it because online we can't filter through people. Even a secret list of contacts to send things to would be flawed. We've already had some bad apples here on the forums.

Just thought I'd throw it out there. I think we're safe to be honest. There was a C&D letter when the game was active, but nobody is looking now and even if there was a report, might not even lead to anything.

I'd take risking it (Although IMO it still isn't a risk) to speeding things up. I think we may be too secretive.



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Re: OK, what now? I need a private server or the ability to run my own.
« Reply #628 on: July 19, 2013, 07:06:53 PM »
You're a funny guy Iron Wolf.  ;D

Those "top sites", "top 200" sites and so on have been around for years, at least a decade. They're just link aggregation websites, and they're easily exploited. They aren't created by publishers, which is just common sense. Publishers don't make money when you're donating to your pal's server host. Also, in many if not most cases, it's up to users to report dead links. When that doesn't happen, they just pile up like corpses. Back when they were used for the first handful of MMORPG emulators, they were actually useful. I used a handful of them. But I don't know of any emulator besides UO that could have had hundreds of servers listed at any one time which actually turned out to be real servers and not dead links (or spam or harmful links). Nowadays there aren't even that many UO servers comparatively. For a long time, UO's emulator community actually set up their own "top site" which ran in a small client and allowed you to connect automatically using Razor, a standard launch program that works for almost any UO shard. The reason behind this was simple. The top sites had become bloated with dead and useless links, so the community built its own link list similar to a "top site", but link owners had to register a link, and then maintain their links or else they would expire and disappear.

I've seen you post about this (yes, time and time again), but I guess I just didn't think you sounded all that committed to the idea. To be honest, you still sound somewhere between serious if unresearching, and "having a laugh on us". I keep thinking there needs to be a winky emoticon after your posts. Or maybe you just figure it's no skin off your back if one of us gets hassled by NCSoft's lawyers, or worse. Or, maybe you're just telling us what you think is going on. Fair enough.

I'm not saying those servers aren't out there. I'm sure some or many are. But that's not all you're suggesting. The people who want to take the time and effort to bring a game back will have things to consider, including whether they think their approach is a calculated risk, a worthwhile risk, or just an unnecessary risk.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2013, 07:27:23 PM by Captain Electric »

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Re: OK, what now? I need a private server or the ability to run my own.
« Reply #629 on: July 19, 2013, 07:59:27 PM »
I followed some of the links to actual server webpages to download the client.

Some are just gold farmers - especially the City of Heroes sites.

But Aion and Lineage 2 have private server easily joined. Do all of the links work? Likely not but there are plenty with little effort to be found. This is just one location, there were many more.

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Re: OK, what now? I need a private server or the ability to run my own.
« Reply #630 on: July 19, 2013, 08:11:06 PM »
Would someone actually get paid and be on the clock while reading a 32 page thread on this forum?

Why not ... I do  8)

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Re: OK, what now? I need a private server or the ability to run my own.
« Reply #631 on: July 19, 2013, 09:09:50 PM »
#4 is forum.coxemu.net - ie a site closed six years ago after a C&D from NCSoft. CoXEmu eventually turned into what we now know as SEGS.
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Re: OK, what now? I need a private server or the ability to run my own.
« Reply #632 on: July 19, 2013, 09:14:23 PM »
interesting.

I wonder how many of those type of links, that seem to be titled and categorized in not a clear and precise manner, exists for other "private servers".

Glad I didn't click on them, but now it doesn't seem like a very reputable site to look for private servers.

Yeah, it's not something I would click on if I weren't on a tightly controlled computer. It is, however, exactly the type of place I like to hear that someone has gone to when they bring their machine in to be looked at. I have my most convincing sympathetic wince ready for when they say it, too.  :)

I didn't mean to look like I was picking your post apart, BTW. You actually did list the only ones that looked promising, though I suspect the porn one was actually a typo; the next one looked more promising, at first glance. I didn't check any of the other games listed in the sidebar, either, so there may actually be some "legit" links somewhere on that site. I'll dig into that a bit more, but probably not tonight. Tonight, I enter The Grid!  ;D
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Re: OK, what now? I need a private server or the ability to run my own.
« Reply #633 on: July 19, 2013, 09:34:17 PM »
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Re: OK, what now? I need a private server or the ability to run my own.
« Reply #634 on: July 19, 2013, 09:50:45 PM »
I downloaded the ones that NC$oft had on the official site shortly before the lights went out, and it appears to be a correct copy. If the one on http://www.cityofheroes.ca is not correct, someone can probably thumbnail me instructions on how to upload the one I have to the Google Drive folder above.
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Re: OK, what now? I need a private server or the ability to run my own.
« Reply #635 on: July 19, 2013, 09:52:49 PM »
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Re: OK, what now? I need a private server or the ability to run my own.
« Reply #636 on: July 19, 2013, 09:59:16 PM »
Most notably, "Team Cohvd" (claimed in its description to be the "first ever working CoH/CoV private server") just links to a shock site.

Thank Moss that link wasn't clickable. As shock sites go, that's one of the more terrible ones.  :o

I notice, in going to see what you meant, that the list in the sidebar includes some pretty interesting ones, most still active. This might be fun: I haven't given my AV/AS software a good workout, lately.  ;D
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Re: OK, what now? I need a private server or the ability to run my own.
« Reply #637 on: July 19, 2013, 10:24:45 PM »
Yeah, it's not something I would click on if I weren't on a tightly controlled computer. It is, however, exactly the type of place I like to hear that someone has gone to when they bring their machine in to be looked at. I have my most convincing sympathetic wince ready for when they say it, too.  :)

I didn't mean to look like I was picking your post apart, BTW. You actually did list the only ones that looked promising, though I suspect the porn one was actually a typo; the next one looked more promising, at first glance. I didn't check any of the other games listed in the sidebar, either, so there may actually be some "legit" links somewhere on that site. I'll dig into that a bit more, but probably not tonight. Tonight, I enter The Grid!  ;D

Nah I was hoping some brave soul tested out the links and reported the results. They looked suspect to me at first glance, the entire site did, but I figure I might be just acting too paranoid again and let someone do it that may not care.

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Re: OK, what now? I need a private server or the ability to run my own.
« Reply #638 on: July 20, 2013, 02:02:16 AM »
The rest are either Inf-selling sites...

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Re: OK, what now? I need a private server or the ability to run my own.
« Reply #639 on: July 20, 2013, 02:12:20 AM »
Why not ... I do  8)

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