Just a warning to Facebookers hating on NC Soft :)

Started by Rae, October 27, 2012, 01:49:00 PM

Rae

There's a guy on one of the Facebook groups saying that  NC Soft banned his COH account for statements he made on their Facebook wall.
I don't know if there's more to this, or if he did something in game to warrant the ban, but be careful if you're facebook ranting :)

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Rae

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Knightslayer

If there are other people it might be good for them to approach the media about that? NCSoft banning their whole accounts, with games they've paid for, because they didn't like what they said?

Rae

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Atlantea

Link? I don't see a link in the post at all. None.
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Knightslayer

Quote from: Atlantea on October 27, 2012, 03:27:01 PM
Link? I don't see a link in the post at all. None.
You don't see the two screenshots/pics? I think that's the link.

Quinch

I see a picture, but I also only see the closing end of a [/url] tag.

Lucretia MacEvil

Quote from: Knightslayer on October 27, 2012, 03:23:19 PM
If there are other people it might be good for them to approach the media about that? NCSoft banning their whole accounts, with games they've paid for, because they didn't like what they said?

This.

Definitely.

Moonfyire101

well luckily for me my fb account doesn't have my name on it and the email attached to it isn't the one i use for ncsoft then. If you want to post on the nc fb just use an alt fb account. One that can't be traced back to your CoX

Rae

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JaguarX

wait now before running to the media, it's best to have all the facts here. Because if we start running to the media causing a stink about it and this guy turns out to been trolling and or did something that actually warrented a ban or was banned in game first and then tried to get revenge on the facebook, then we'll look like bums.  Right now we see one side of the story and really no mention of what exactly he said or did, in game or not.

While I wouldnt put it past them, it just seem odd with all the negative comments about NCSoft floating out there on facebook and stuff, and some are pretty harsh worded, that this guy just so happen to have his account banned.


On the other hand, I would never link anything with something else.

Also have to be careful as I think it do state in their policy that they can ban accounts for no reason or when they see fit. Should they? Hell no!

But think though, I bet there is one person you can think of that if they strolled here into these boards right now and posted something, you would ban them just based on the past old forum postings alone and not what they posted in the present on this board.

Dollhouse

Looks like I didn't hit the requisite snark level in my FB posts: GW1 still works. =P

blue storm

If this were to be confirmed, then they really, really are asking for an all out war... and they should expect even more bad coming their way !
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Knightslayer

It's why I said "if there are other people", Jaguar.  ;)

TimtheEnchanter

What about those other accounts that were reported to be 'randomly' locked for no reason? Maybe they just never made the FB connection?

Wait on more info and see if this happens again.

If they're banning in-game accounts for FB acticity (a public site that NCsoft doesn't own) wow.

Though I don't know how much sympathy we'd get. People are getting fired from jobs because of Facebook and everyone sees no problem with it.

JaguarX

Quote from: Knightslayer on October 27, 2012, 04:26:53 PM
It's why I said "if there are other people", Jaguar.  ;)

ah right missed that part. This is what I get for getting out of bed before 12 noon and trying to read. lol.

Yeah, if anyone else it would be good to step up and share the story, preferabley the whole story though. Nothing worse than going to bat for someone only to find out they were the monkey of the situation after all because they only told you half of the story.

JaguarX

Quote from: TimtheEnchanter on October 27, 2012, 04:29:07 PM
What about those other accounts that were reported to be 'randomly' locked for no reason? Maybe they just never made the FB connection?

Wait on more info and see if this happens again.

If they're banning in-game accounts for FB acticity (a public site that NCsoft doesn't own) wow.

Though I don't know how much sympathy we'd get. People are getting fired from jobs because of Facebook and everyone sees no problem with it.

damn. that is true.
As messed up as it is to lose a job over facebook, it has happen and no one give a hoot besides some that say "Well they should of been more careful of what they posted."  We live in a strange world eh.

I still dont think it's right to fire someone over a facebook posting, or ban an in game account because of they had something negative to say (this is assuming that this is all it is about.) on a different media outlet.

Now this got me thinking though. If we are going to make a fuss about it, when the old forum close down, we probably shouldnt turn around an ban people for being negative or dont agree with them ourselves. It would be like if someone comes here and say "I hate Titan network." While I'd probably think, "Who is this fool to come here say that on Titan network forum? He probably should be banned." That may be the same logic of NCSoft with "Who is this guy to try and blast us on our own facebook page? Ban him!" If we going to get at NCSoft for doing it, would it be proper to do it ourselves?

Manga

Quote from: JaguarX on October 27, 2012, 04:38:31 PMNow this got me thinking though. If we are going to make a fuss about it, when the old forum close down, we probably shouldnt turn around an ban people for being negative or dont agree with them ourselves. It would be like if someone comes here and say "I hate Titan network." While I'd probably think, "Who is this fool to come here say that on Titan network forum? He probably should be banned." That may be the same logic of NCSoft with "Who is this guy to try and blast us on our own facebook page? Ban him!" If we going to get at NCSoft for doing it, would it be proper to do it ourselves?

Different context.  For us to do what NCSoft seems to be doing, we would have to ban them from this forum and then email their boss and get them fired, too (a little extreme comparison, but we don't have a 2nd location to use as an example).

I actually know one person who had their CoH account "closed", and they don't post here or to Facebook.  The only possible way NCSoft could have seen anything one of them said was if they were watching CoH chat logs, or possibly chat logs in Guild Wars 2, because those are the only places this person said anything bad about NCSoft (B&S in particular).  I was right there with this person in CoH though, and my account didn't get "closed", so even that assumption is very thin.

Ammon

Business is often compared to war.  We've used our own conflict rhetoric in this for a while.  We should fully expect NCsoft to 'fight' back at least somewhat.  Account closures are cheaper than losing.  So are some petty suits for libel, if you leave yourself open to them.  Please be careful what you say, ensuring that it is: (a) accurate and fair, or (b) clearly stated as personal opinion, or (c) a direct quote with citation. 

Losing the fight will cost NCsoft an unknown amount, but estimated at certainly millions of dollars, and possibly hundreds of millions of dollars.  Compared to those figures, attempting to scare us all off with a few $50k lawsuits would be an obvious idea, if we leave ourselves open to it.  NCsoft will need to be seen to act in order to attempt to keep value in their shares and company.  We should anticipate it, and ensure we do not leave ourselves open to law suits.  Keep what you say legal, fair, accurate, or clearly stated as a personal opinion.