"...a realignment of company focus"

Started by Turjan, October 05, 2012, 07:04:54 PM

Vulpy

Quote from: Segev on October 07, 2012, 11:39:11 PMI'm going to need it; I'm hoping to pull off that media day event, so I need to get THAT press release written after this one. And sent out. Tomorrow night.

I'd say you're doing great so far. And making me feel a little lazy, too. ;)
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Taceus Jiwede

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Quote from: SithRose on October 05, 2012, 07:11:51 PM
That is a *fascinating* approach to take.

It's also one that COULD be effective if taken in the right direction.

It could also backfire, badly. Bear in mind that COH also has COV, which encourages people to go out and actively be mean, nasty, evil bad guys. And has all kinds of "Bizarre evil cults which will corrupt our children!" in it. (Circle of Thorns, Banished Pantheon...Freakshow...ALL of Dark Astoria...)

I'm not certain that I'd trust Fox News not to just throw a negative spin on all of it. Bear in mind that I'm extremely cynical when it comes to dealing with right wing wacko fundamentalists, which happens to coincide with a not-insignificant portion of Fox's viewers. It's something that does have potential with a carefully chosen audience, though.

I think this is a good idea and clever as well but I agree with the above statement it could be good or it could go south real fast.  Also I am not sure if NCSoft cares at all what Fox thinks.  Many countries for along time have not understood why sex is such a big no no in America but violence is okay, frankly I agree.  This also kind of seems like a dirty trick to me.  We are taking something out of context, and is most likely not even the case, and than saying that NCSoft only cares about sex and selling sex.  I am not a lawyer so I don't know for sure but I think that could be viewed as libel.  I seriously doubt NCSoft said "City of Heroes doesn't have enough skimpy outfits in it, we want more skimpy outfits.....So can it."  Like Sith said too if we do take this approach do we really want a company like Fox dealing with it?  I just dont want our community getting painted as a group that is okay with Cults, Villains, Evil (Like Sith said)  and Violence(Not like sith said I don't want to lump him in with my opinion)  but not sex.

I just want to say I don't think its a bad idea at all and I am not trying to poke holes in it I just wanted to express my thoughts on it.

Segev

Only going to go south if we keep trying to badmouth news outlets before they even look at us. Fox is no more sensationalist than MSNBC, CBS, or ABC. I've now sent it to MSNBC and Fox. Looking for CBS and ABC contact info.

Major blogs are also a good one to aim for. I'm not sure if the Huffington Post does anything BUT political commentary, though, so they may not care. Still, can't hurt.

I may even send it off to Rush Limbaugh; he might find it amusing enough to talk about. And in his case, simply talking about it will get attention. (He's known for slash-dotting things unintentionally just by talking about them.)

This really isn't a left-wing/right-wing issue, in that it covers concerns of both sides of the spectrum.

Taceus Jiwede

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That's true, Its not fair to pick out Fox from other news companies I retract that part.  But the rest I stand by.  I wasn't talking left or right wing problems my concern isn't that.  Its that we are clearly taking their actions out of context.  I just want to make sure we go about this approach the right way if we do at all.  And do we really want to keep promoting the idea that violence is okay in America and not sex?  I don't mean to get off topic but we should consider some things like that as well.

(That wasn't directed to you Segev it just sounds that way, I am not trying to be difficult I just really want to express my concerns)

Victoria Victrix

Remember that anyone can send a tip or a press release to any news outlet. 

Many modern "journalists" are lazy.  Give them something they can just copy verbatim and they will do so.  That preserves our version of the spin.

Don't forget local newspapers.  Submit to both the News departments and the Lifestyles department.  With luck, you'll get the thing to run twice, once weekday, once weekend in Lifestyles.

Why should NCSoft care?  Because their PR firm will pick up on this (it's their job to note every time their client is mentioned and keep track of these things) and they will see NCSoft is getting DOUBLE negative mention--once for canning family friendly game and once for a semi-porn game that they intend to push but hasn't even been released yet! 

How can this make a difference?  The PR firm (this is their job) and possibly the PR department at NCSoft itself will track back where all this is coming from.  Which is here.  And they KNOW what we want: we have been crystal clear on that.  "Turn the IP loose, sell or lease it to someone who will support it, and we will shut up, turn off the negative press machine, and go away.  Refuse to release the IP, and you can expect more...much more...of the same.  For a very, very long time.  This is going to create big problems for you in the West, and we will find a way to make it percolate into the East."
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QuantumHero

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Part of me wonders if THIS is the press release to try and get to Cobert?

If someone knows how to get his attention, I know its still political season but his spin on this issue might be exactly what we are looking for.   We could also try or John Stewart but Cobert is absolutely brilliant IMO and might be able to find the perfect spin.

LOL and I see VV and I were posting at the same time again.  :P

And yep sell u or set us fre...or deal wth all sorts of non-violent but *very* persistant "fun"..and decide to spell it without the "n" at each individual's personal discretion (insert blatently over-th-top bwahha laugh here and goes off whistling ;D
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Segev

Sent to CBS weekly and evening news. Sent to ABC's "The View" (I figure their pro-female-empowerment bent will make it of interest)

Victoria Victrix

Quote from: QuantumHero on October 08, 2012, 12:01:48 AM
Part of me wonders if THIS is the press release to try and get to Cobert?

If someone knows how to get his attention, I know its still political season but his spin on this issue might be exactly what we are looking for.   We could also try or John Stewart but Cobert is absolutely brilliant IMO and might be able to find the perfect spin

I'd say BOTH Stewart and Colbert. 
I will go down with this ship.  I won't put my hands up in surrender.  There will be no white flag above my door.  I'm in love, and always will be.  Dido

Moonfyire101

Quote from: Segev on October 08, 2012, 12:06:36 AM
Sent to CBS weekly and evening news. Sent to ABC's "The View" (I figure their pro-female-empowerment bent will make it of interest)

Nice, try ellen also. Everyone loves ellen

Segev

Bleh, here's what I got in an auto-reply from ABC after sending in the "The View" submission:

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Thank you for your request to ABC News.

To submit a story idea to one of the ABC News shows listed below, write a single page letter including your name, phone number, and address. Include photocopies of backup information. On the outside of the envelope, write "Story Idea." If a producer is interested in your story, he/she will contact you. Here are the show addresses:

20/20
147 Columbus Avenue
New York, NY  10023

Primetime/What Would You Do?
147 Columbus Avenue
New York, NY  10023

Nightline/This Week
1717 DeSales Street  NW
Washington, DC  20036

ABC World News with Diane Sawyer
47 West 66th Street, 2nd Floor
New York, NY  10023

Good Morning America
147 Columbus Avenue
New York, NY  10023


If you are submitting a LOCAL news story:

Go to ABC.com
Go to the bottom of the home page and click on "FAQ"
Click on Question #2
Click on "nationwide affiliate map"
Follow the instructions to get the website, address and phone number for your local ABC station.

Note:   The Company's long-established policy does not allow us to accept for review or consideration any ideas, suggestions, or creative materials not solicited by us or our subsidiaries.  Therefore, in the event that you have submitted such content, please be advised that the submission has been forwarded to the Company's legal department for handling.

This email has been sent to you from an outbound email account that will not accept inbound mail.  Therefore, please do not respond to this email.
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If anybody would be willing to take on the letter-writing for me and mail it, I'd appreciate it. Mailing out is a REAL pain for me where I am right now, and I'm kinda pressed for time on it.

Also, VV's idea of sending to local news stations is a good one. Please, please, please, sending to local news papers and stations would be sometihng best done by distributed means. Everybody who feels like it, please do so and then post here to let us know it's been done! If you don't see that it's been sent to a paper or the like in your area you can think of, please send it in to them! I literally cannot do that part myself, but it's perfect for grassroots efforts like ours.

I will also call upon you to put the press release inviting media people to media day when I get it into a pdf format and put it on my web space, too, because the more invitations we have out, the better our likely response.

Thank you all very much for your support and help in this!

Wyrm

What about Entertainment Weekly?  They seem to have some devoted pop culture geekery represented on their staff, and even bother mentioning video games on a regular basis.

Segev

Sent to Colbert Report via his site and sent to the email contacts for news for Comedy Central linked as the main points of contact for The Daily Show.

I've also sent an email with the link to the release to Rush Limbaugh, though I doubt it will get anywhere (the email contact there is a fairly general one).

So that's CBS, NBC, Fox, the Daily Show, the Colbert Report, and an attempt to send it to The View I've done.

I'll look into Ellen; please, if others have suggested places to submit it, go ahead and take the intiative; this will go a lot faster if we all send to anything we can think of rather than me trying to cover everything.

Moonfyire101

Quote from: Segev on October 08, 2012, 12:30:43 AM
Sent to Colbert Report via his site and sent to the email contacts for news for Comedy Central linked as the main points of contact for The Daily Show.

I've also sent an email with the link to the release to Rush Limbaugh, though I doubt it will get anywhere (the email contact there is a fairly general one).

So that's CBS, NBC, Fox, the Daily Show, the Colbert Report, and an attempt to send it to The View I've done.

I'll look into Ellen; please, if others have suggested places to submit it, go ahead and take the intiative; this will go a lot faster if we all send to anything we can think of rather than me trying to cover everything.

Iv'e only contacted game companies (to buy it) and groups (like game, anime and comic), if someone has a standard letter with links and stuff to send i'll send to local news and stuff too.

Vulpy

Quote from: Moonfyire101 on October 08, 2012, 12:36:24 AM
Iv'e only contacted game companies (to buy it) and groups (like game, anime and comic), if someone has a standard letter with links and stuff to send i'll send to local news and stuff too.

Nothing wrong with writing your own. :) If you want to post it here, I'm sure we can help proofread it, if that would make you more comfortable.
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emu265

Quote from: Vulpy on October 08, 2012, 12:46:04 AM
Nothing wrong with writing your own. :) If you want to post it here, I'm sure we can help proofread it, if that would make you more comfortable.
Indeed, share with us!  We'll help make sure it's got all the bells and whistles required.

Victoria Victrix

Quote from: Moonfyire101 on October 08, 2012, 12:36:24 AM
Iv'e only contacted game companies (to buy it) and groups (like game, anime and comic), if someone has a standard letter with links and stuff to send i'll send to local news and stuff too.

I think you might have lost the link to Segev's press release in the text, Moonfyre.

Here it is in clear

http://stormlord.us/NCSoft%20Realignment.pdf

It's a PDF; you can send it as a link, or download it and send it as an attachment to an email.  You can also print it.
I will go down with this ship.  I won't put my hands up in surrender.  There will be no white flag above my door.  I'm in love, and always will be.  Dido

chaparralshrub

Thanks for linking that, VV, and thanks for writing that, Sergev. Let's hope it hits a political audience!

Moonfyire101

Quote from: Victoria Victrix on October 08, 2012, 01:04:46 AM
I think you might have lost the link to Segev's press release in the text, Moonfyre.

Here it is in clear

http://stormlord.us/NCSoft%20Realignment.pdf

It's a PDF; you can send it as a link, or download it and send it as an attachment to an email.  You can also print it.

yes i did miss it thanks :)

Atlantea

Oh dear god...

I thought it couldn't get any worse.

Guess what - it's worse.

These are playable characters in Blade and Soul. They're some kind of "bunny spirit" or something. I'm not sure.

https://images.weserv.nl/?url=1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-hpvEwqVDvJk%2FUHGACa0JGbI%2FAAAAAAAAAvY%2FreeFpF0gBTY%2Fs1600%2F04_BnS_SCREENSHOT_LYN_FORCEMASTER_SUMMONER%2Bcropped.jpg



(BTW - one of them is supposed to be male. And no I can't tell which one...)

But WAIT... it gets WORSE...

These are costume options for them...


https://i.imgur.com/HMaPD.png


I"m sure defenders of the game would say to any complaints about proportions and childlike features "Hey - they're not even human, they don't have to adhere to a human sense of proporiton, so what's the point?"

Well I'd say none of the OTHER females in the game adhere to human proportions either. And additionally, this just...

Ugh...  Am I wrong? Am I over-reacting? Or am I right that this looks like friggin borderline KIDDIEPORN here? Is NCSoft just sort of giving the "wink wink nudge nudge" to the absolute WORST in human degradation here?

Argh...   It makes me want to throw up a little.

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TimtheEnchanter

Quote from: Atlantea on October 08, 2012, 03:20:39 AMUgh...  Am I wrong? Am I over-reacting? Or am I right that this looks like friggin borderline KIDDIEPORN here? Is NCSoft just sort of giving the "wink wink nudge nudge" to the absolute WORST in human degradation here?

Argh...   It makes me want to throw up a little.

I'm not an expert, but I'm pretty sure Lolita/Lola style is more or less accepted and legal in the Anime/Manga world. (and yes, Lolita means exactly what you think it means)

And on a side note, this isn't exactly new. Everytime Facebook spammed me with one of those dime-a-dozen side-scrolling social MMOG's, the 9/10 times the character featured on the ad looked like an overdeveloped 10-year-old in skimpy clothing wielding a sword so heavy that it would make her tip over (if her endowment didn't first).