Author Topic: What should we be thinking now?  (Read 9641 times)

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Re: What should we be thinking now?
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2012, 05:53:55 PM »
(though we may have to leave off the butt-cape. Sorry, butt-cape enthusiasts).
Pish posh. Just shape it a little differently. You can tear my buttcapes from my cold, dead hands! And also hers.
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Re: What should we be thinking now?
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2012, 06:06:52 PM »
Pretty sure you should be thinking, "Man, that Electric-Knight is one happenin' guy!!".
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Re: What should we be thinking now?
« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2012, 06:12:35 PM »
Not so much the case. Read the Lore AMA again. There's a lot of vague answers or 'cannot disclose this' answers. If the game was 100% set to die then why would it be kept hidden away like that?


Cause NCsoft is still clutching our poor world and Positron is tied by contractual engagment ?

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Re: What should we be thinking now?
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2012, 06:15:27 PM »
Pretty sure you should be thinking, "Man, that Electric-Knight is one happenin' guy!!".
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Re: What should we be thinking now?
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2012, 06:38:28 PM »
Pretty sure you should be thinking, "Man, that Electric-Knight is one happenin' guy!!".
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Re: What should we be thinking now?
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2012, 06:41:51 PM »
Not so much the case. Read the Lore AMA again. There's a lot of vague answers or 'cannot disclose this' answers. If the game was 100% set to die then why would it be kept hidden away like that?

Also, consider that until it is announced otherwise that the game will be closing down on 30/11/12. As such all the developer, community rep etc posts have to go from this stance and viewpoint. The moment it changes I'm sure they'll be retracting things in a heartbeat. But until that moment comes about they have to put on a brave face and deal with it.

Good points... I was going bonkers myself, trying to cut through all the vagueness and evasiveness (I guess old habits are hard to break). Except for the details about Scirocco's Totally Excellent Face Turn (which was gonna go down EXACTLY as I'd predicted, thank you Dr. Aeon), I knew, or guessed, most of it already.

Another thing, though... let's say the best happens; Paragon Studios is reunited and the game is sold lock-stock-and-barrel to another publisher who knows how to handle the title properly. Seems to me the thing to do would be to crank out issues 24 & 25... then turn the studio's full attention toward CoH2.

That would be an opportunity to say "Oh sure, yeah, all that stuff was gonna happen, but that was Primal Earth 1, see? This is Primal Earth 2... anything can happen now, and will!"

Comic book superhero writing is all about flying by the seat of one's pants, coming up with total B.S. out of the blue and running with it. Some of the greatest stuff in comics history was created this way... the first time Stan Lee ever heard of the Silver Surfer was when Kirby turned in the artwork for FF #48. The King thought it would be cool if Galactus had a herald who flew on ahead and announced his arrival... so he just made him up off the top of his head.

If Protean and Dr. Aeon are able to join in, I'm confident they'll be able to whip up some New Awesomeness.

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Re: What should we be thinking now?
« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2012, 06:57:20 PM »
I suspect we should take it easy

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Re: What should we be thinking now?
« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2012, 03:40:07 AM »
NCSoft has just posted a very final notice on their site about the shutdown of City, I'm sure you all saw that.

Still waiting for evidence of this 'notice'.  If the OP is referring to the Refund announcement on the COH Homepage, that's nothing that was surprising... they have to pay folks back for unused time (and for all that any breathing NCSoft employee below the Chief level knows, the game is still closing on Nov. 30th.)

That's not a "give up, go home, and we're not validating your parking" kind of reply.  That's a form letter.  Keep your head up.

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Re: What should we be thinking now?
« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2012, 03:45:22 AM »
I apologize, I politely refuse to acknowledge Glenn Frey's existence on this earth after what that monster did on Miami Vice. 

But I do appreciate your sentiment, and thank you for the reply.

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Re: What should we be thinking now?
« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2012, 03:47:27 AM »
You know, my husband has a saying that perfectly sums up this situation.

"Greed kills cool."
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Re: What should we be thinking now?
« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2012, 04:29:24 AM »
Are you pondering what I'm pondering?   ;D
I found the crappy town where I'm the hero!
But then NCSoft took it away :(

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Re: What should we be thinking now?
« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2012, 04:30:44 AM »
Are you pondering what I'm pondering?   ;D

I t'ink so, Brain, but where are we going to find rubber pants in our size!?
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Re: What should we be thinking now?
« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2012, 04:37:59 AM »
You know, my husband has a saying that perfectly sums up this situation.

"Greed kills cool."

It kills pretty much everything actually, if given the chance. Everything from Han Solo shooting first, to global oceanic life.

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Re: What should we be thinking now?
« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2012, 05:33:22 AM »
...but can greed kill greed?


* DrakeGrimm starts plotting...
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Re: What should we be thinking now?
« Reply #36 on: September 22, 2012, 05:42:24 AM »
Greed kills itself, yes.

Enlightened self-interest, on the other hand, (perhaps perversely) causes all involved to gain in the long run.

And, of course, everyone on this board wants CoH to continue; it's in their self-interest. The trick, the goal, the method is to find a way that it becomes in the self-interest of those who now control it to allow it to continue. And in the interest of those who obtain it for it to do so, as well.

Fortunately! I think this is all quite possible.

Provided blind covetous greed does not clutch hearts and deafen them to enlightened recognition of their own true interests.

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Re: What should we be thinking now?
« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2012, 09:33:36 AM »
We should be thinking how to convince Cryptic to allow us to continue to use the game-engine which is currently licensed to NCSoft for City.

It suddenly occurred to me that this might be part of the problem.  NCSoft may literally not be able to release the IP because running it requires a game engine they themselves do not have the ability to re-license to someone else.

If we can prove Cryptic will re-license...we might be able to get the IP pried out of their fingers.

Anybody still have contacts over there?
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Re: What should we be thinking now?
« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2012, 04:23:04 PM »
That's actually a very good insight, Victoria. I don't have direct contacts there, but that hasn't stopped me from trying to get in touch (so far unsuccessfully) with NCSoft people when I first started looking into this. I have a LinkedIn business account with supposedly-guaranteed-to-get-response message services (I need to pester them about that guarantee regarding one that I have tried and not gotten replies from); maybe it will work better with Crytpic people.

I will get on that today. Hopefully I'll find some people who can and will reply.