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NCSoft Stockwatch

Started by Blackgrue, September 20, 2012, 04:27:00 PM

TimtheEnchanter

Quote from: Segev on December 20, 2012, 05:22:50 PMIt's actually NCSoft's attempt to crack the Konami Code.

Is that the one that gives you $999,999,999,999 for no effort and gives you infinite lives so that your mistakes bring no penalties?

Kistulot

Quote from: TimtheEnchanter on December 21, 2012, 02:11:50 AM
Is that the one that gives you $999,999,999,999 for no effort and gives you infinite lives so that your mistakes bring no penalties?

30 lives.

Infinite shame.

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dwturducken

I wouldn't use the word "replace," but there's no word for "take over for you and make everything better almost immediately," so we just say "replace."

Blue Pulsar

Does anyone know when the stock market opens back up in Korea?
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Xieveral

Quote from: Blue Pulsar on December 24, 2012, 07:18:03 AM
Does anyone know when the stock market opens back up in Korea?

I'm west coast United States so for me the market is open 4pm-10pm PST Sunday-Thursday
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Kaiser Tarantula

Ahhh, they're back below 150,000, and closer to where they belong.  My overwhelming desire for schadenfreude derived from NCsoft is momentarily massaged.

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So glad I didn't change it.

The Fifth Horseman

Somehow it brings to mind that weird rendition of "Row, row, row my boat" from "Hackers".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbcxf8PWg_U#t=4967s
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bigdog1111

Kaiser Tarantula, thanks for the NCSoft stock link. It's more dramatic when you click the ytd or 1 yr, you'll find their stock dropping is readily apparent since the COH closure announcement,

http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/chart?symbol=036570.KS

If I were an NCSoft stockholder I'd be VERY WORRIED.

As COH fan I'm very happy to see this. I really hope NCSoft goes under and is forced to sell off COH to satisfy investors!

Kistulot

Quote from: bigdog1111 on December 24, 2012, 05:01:15 PM
As COH fan I'm very happy to see this. I really hope NCSoft goes under and is forced to sell off COH to satisfy investors!

Call me too blueside, but I'm hoping they just see it in their best interest to sell off their old IP they aren't using. If they did that, I know I'd be happy to say they've learned to show more respect to their playerbase and other people would too. They'd make a big chunk of profit, and be ready to turn towards a new golden age. Would CoH players be their customers again? Unlikely. But I know I might wince at their name then say "at least they learned from the experience."

Here's to hoping.
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WildFire15

Quote from: Kistulot on December 24, 2012, 06:22:05 PM
Call me too blueside, but I'm hoping they just see it in their best interest to sell off their old IP they aren't using

I agree with that. If they go under they'll drag as many studios unfortunate enough to work for them down with them and cost plenty of jobs, so I'd rather they realize selling CoH is in their best interests and leave them to do what they fancy after selling.

Lucretia MacEvil

I wouldn't want to see anyone else out of work, but right now I'm selfish enough to want CoX back any way I can get it.
(so, I guess I have a more Rogue/Vigilante opinion? or Praetorian Loyalist maybe {"as long as it helps me, I could care less what else happens"}?)

srmalloy

Quote from: bigdog1111 on December 24, 2012, 05:01:15 PMKaiser Tarantula, thanks for the NCSoft stock link. It's more dramatic when you click the ytd or 1 yr, you'll find their stock dropping is readily apparent since the COH closure announcement,

http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/chart?symbol=036570.KS

If I were an NCSoft stockholder I'd be VERY WORRIED.

Actually, the best view is the six-month view, where you have the color change under the line between August and September, which makes it easy to see when the closure announcement went out. And their stock goes up until the 7th, then we held the Unity rally and their stock started its nosedive.

FatherXmas

Quote from: bigdog1111 on December 24, 2012, 05:01:15 PM
Kaiser Tarantula, thanks for the NCSoft stock link. It's more dramatic when you click the ytd or 1 yr, you'll find their stock dropping is readily apparent since the COH closure announcement,

http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/chart?symbol=036570.KS

If I were an NCSoft stockholder I'd be VERY WORRIED.

As COH fan I'm very happy to see this. I really hope NCSoft goes under and is forced to sell off COH to satisfy investors!
Go back to that link and click on the Analysts tab.  Of the 39 brokerage firms that follow NCSoft, all but one says the stock will outperform the market (sector/industry) in the near term.  A third of them say you should buy now and frequently.  NCSoft's third quarter earnings were one of it's highest since CoH came out in 2004.

The downturn in stock price, which started around 14 months ago, has more to do with delays in their new products, it's major shareholder and CEO selling off 60% of his person stock to a major competitor and the simply fact the price was too damn high for the sales and profits they company had leading up to it's 380,500 price on Oct 19th, 2011.  There was no rational reason the price was that high except on the continuing anticipation that the new games would already be out and earning big bucks (all according to NCSoft's continuing suggestions of explosive sales and profits really soon™ now).  However now that Blade & Soul and Guild Wars 2 are finally out, those estimates, including getting those games up and running in the rest of Asia, China especially, may finally come true.

That's why analysts are estimating the stock value to hit 300,000 again by the end of 2013.  Right now I sense the fourth quarter numbers will still be short of analysts projections for the end of 2012 which is why they are staying as low as they are instead of investors listening to those analysts.  Let's face it, if you got into NCSoft since 2009 or right near the top, you will join in selling to limit your loses.

All that a low stock price could do is make them a buyout target.  The sooner that some of you realize that, that stock price is not just a reflection of company fundamentals but what investors believe, rightly or wrongly what the worth compared to other stocks or investments.  Belief is a powerful force in the stock market.
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Victoria Victrix

Bearing in mind this is only one reporter talking to me, so who knows...but "Joe," the reporter that interviewed me for the Korean times, indicated at the feeling at the paper is that NCSoft is giving at least some of those analysts kickbacks for their glowing recommendations.  He also indicated that this is by no means out of the ordinary over there.  If I were to hazard a pure guess, it is that most stockholders are aware of this and not listening to the analysts.
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Quinch

It still raises the question, even if all those analysts are recommending buy - why isn't anyone doing that?

Mister Bison

Quote from: Quinch on December 25, 2012, 10:18:55 AM
It still raises the question, even if all those analysts are recommending buy - why isn't anyone doing that?
If there is a price on the stock that's fluctuating, it's because some people are buying it. Don't worry. Just not enough to make the price rise.
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Aggelakis

Yeah. In order for a stock to move at all, it means someone is buying something. It just means that someone is buying the low-price stuff hoping for a spike back up later.
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