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Re: NCSoft Stockwatch
« Reply #700 on: December 08, 2012, 07:50:58 PM »
The original statement that prompted my reply was Tim wondering aloud about the obsession to declare the market dead. This declaration is not always coming from stock-market analysts.
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Re: NCSoft Stockwatch
« Reply #701 on: December 08, 2012, 08:05:42 PM »
It is true. The sad part about the majority of venture capitalists and other investors is that they don't just look for a return of their investment dollar, but the highest return for their dollar. There are some niche marketeers, but they seem to be few and far between.
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Re: NCSoft Stockwatch
« Reply #702 on: December 08, 2012, 08:35:14 PM »
At this point my only comment is, when NCSoft is delisted I can throw a party.  :P

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Re: NCSoft Stockwatch
« Reply #703 on: December 08, 2012, 08:38:06 PM »
At this point my only comment is, when NCSoft is delisted I can throw a party.  :P

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Re: NCSoft Stockwatch
« Reply #704 on: December 08, 2012, 08:38:51 PM »
When NCSoft is in ashes, then you have my permission to party.

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Re: NCSoft Stockwatch
« Reply #705 on: December 08, 2012, 11:14:08 PM »
I think, possibly related to their stocks, knowing their income would be interesting. Anyone know of how their profits are trending in the wake of the shutdown announcement and after? The more we know, the better. I'm not one that is so good at tracking such information even though I am positive it is out there.

I, along with most here, would truly like to believe that shutting down our home has been problematic for them and I don't believe that belief is misplaced or simple, unguided opinion. I hate to see any company suffer in these times, but I hate even more feeling cheated and stolen from. Especially by someone who thinks that it is in anyone's best interest.

Ideally, I think that most of us, myself included, would like to see the company do badly, then either relinquish the rights to the game or reopen it. After that, I would love to see their stocks, sales, and reputation soar. But, as they say; Knowing is half the battle, and I'd love to know how their general sales and/or subscriptions to their other games are doing.
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Re: NCSoft Stockwatch
« Reply #706 on: December 08, 2012, 11:25:34 PM »
When NCSoft is in ashes, then you have my permission to party.

...in that vein, musn't their punishment be more severe?
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Re: NCSoft Stockwatch
« Reply #707 on: December 08, 2012, 11:34:44 PM »
I don't know of anyone who buys a PC every year.
I think the least amount of time I've gone between new systems was about two years, but I have three systems running.

I just upgrade components in my gaming PC until the motherboard isn't able to support it anymore (recently replaced it due to the fact that I just couldn't get new AGP graphics cards anymore), but my last file server had been up and running since 1998 (and still on Windows 98) when I finally replaced it a couple of years ago.  My laptop is still doing just fine after a memory upgrade or two over the years and I think I've had it since '05 or '06.

Aside from the laptop, I've been buying components and building my own systems since about 2000.  Since they don't track new PC sales by looking at components, I've spent a whole lot of money they aren't taking into account.
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Re: NCSoft Stockwatch
« Reply #708 on: December 08, 2012, 11:37:09 PM »
I bring the chips!

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Re: NCSoft Stockwatch
« Reply #709 on: December 08, 2012, 11:59:47 PM »
Yes but from a PoV of a stock market analyst, they are looking for companies that cater to huge markets or supply materials to companies that cater to huge markets.  And right now they aren't seeing PCs as being a product that sells into a huge market (consumer/home) anymore.

Steam is telling me there are 4,621,711 people on it right now.  Is that not big?

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Re: NCSoft Stockwatch
« Reply #710 on: December 09, 2012, 12:10:50 AM »
I bring the chips!

Make em sweet-onion flavor chips, and I'm down! :D
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Re: NCSoft Stockwatch
« Reply #711 on: December 09, 2012, 12:22:08 AM »
Make em sweet-onion flavor chips, and I'm down! :D

I will bring some Seven Layer Dip

refried Beans and cheese
Spinach
Clam
Onion
Frito Lay Jalapeno cheese
Guacamole
Salsa - Medium

Also I will make scones and bring coke

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Re: NCSoft Stockwatch
« Reply #712 on: December 09, 2012, 01:40:23 AM »
Steam is telling me there are 4,621,711 people on it right now.  Is that not big?
Compared to 1.26 million XBox 360 sales in the US just during the month of November and over 500,000 PS3 sales during Black Friday weekend, no it's not big.

Anyways that's just people logged in to Steam.  Heck I'm logged into Steam but I'm not playing any games right now.

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Re: NCSoft Stockwatch
« Reply #713 on: December 09, 2012, 01:51:54 AM »
For those old enough I got this recipe for a cocktail called a Triforce

Goldschlager - Gannon
99 Bananas - Zelda
Captain Morgan Black - Link

In that order in a shot glass.

Layered?

If my research proves it's cool (gluten free) I'll have to try that.

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Re: NCSoft Stockwatch
« Reply #714 on: December 09, 2012, 01:53:33 AM »
Compared to 1.26 million XBox 360 sales in the US just during the month of November and over 500,000 PS3 sales during Black Friday weekend, no it's not big.

Anyways that's just people logged in to Steam.  Heck I'm logged into Steam but I'm not playing any games right now.

Since FatherXmas was taken I'm using another former CoH character, AtomicSamuraiRobot as my Steam name.

Steam also isn't the only PC game service. Origin has, or at least had within the past year, over 10 million users, and that's WITH a ton of bad PR surrounding their rather scary ToS, stock disasters, and EA earning the "Worst Company of 2011" award.

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Re: NCSoft Stockwatch
« Reply #715 on: December 09, 2012, 01:56:07 AM »
Well from what I see nc went up a little bit. Stll pretty sure they are still a lot down from what they were from the end of November though.

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Re: NCSoft Stockwatch
« Reply #716 on: December 09, 2012, 03:54:14 AM »
Here's another thing that all those analysts are not taking into account.

The West is getting older.

No, really, seriously older.  As in, I am 62, sitting in a zero gravity recliner, with a padded lapdesk I got from an Old Fart catalog holding my keyboard in an ergonomically comfortable position, with not one, but TWO Very Large monitors to hold my stuff.  That is my work rig and my gaming rig.  My father in law's is similar, with even bigger monitors.

Console games are not much fun for my aging reflexes.  I have real problems with joysticks; people with arthritic fingers have even more troubles with joysticks.  Plus, the TV you are gaming on is probably not the one on the living room, but one in the family room with furniture comfortable for kids but not old bones, and with a TV that is fine for watching a movie but gives you squinty headaches when you are trying to game.
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If you intend to market to the US, the UK and Europe, you ignore the Aging of the West to your peril.  As the West ages, and people discover the sort of setup that my father in law and I have, I would expect PC Games to get more, not less, popular.
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Re: NCSoft Stockwatch
« Reply #717 on: December 09, 2012, 04:04:53 AM »
with a padded lapdesk I got from an Old Fart catalog

I want to buy stuff from the Old Fart catalog! Heh :D

All kidding aside, you're absolutely correct. In my case though, while I have no real dexterity issues, I don't like touch-screen interfaces when compared to ye olde keyboard. For one thing, fingerprints on a Keyboard are all but invisible. Get em on a touch-screen, and I go OCD in a hurry.
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Re: NCSoft Stockwatch
« Reply #718 on: December 09, 2012, 04:52:14 AM »
I'm not seeing any damage control efforts from NCSoft. We're hitting them with everything we have, and there's no opposition.

Are we beneath their notice? Their declining stock belies that. Several times our efforts have immediately preceeded a tumble.

Perhaps they're not answering because what we're saying is true, and answering would only draw more attention.

But then, they would mount a media compaign touting them and their recent efforts, trying to outshout us, especially before Christmas.

It feels like they're turtle-ing, trying to hide behind language barriers until this blows over. I wish we had more ears and voices in Korea.

What's their next move?

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Re: NCSoft Stockwatch
« Reply #719 on: December 09, 2012, 04:53:27 AM »
Here's another thing that all those analysts are not taking into account.

The West is getting older.

Even worse for NCsoftcore... their own analysts appear to be oblivious to the fact that the gamer population of the East is aging even faster than that of the West. The Eastern gaming population is also becoming increasingly female. Yet NCsoftcore seems more inclined than ever to market to twitch-gaming impulse-buying porn-loving young males. Of course... that particular demographic is notoriously easy to get money out of in exchange for junk. Which seems to be increasingly what NCsoftcore has to sell. So maybe they do know what they're doing.
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