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Re: Call To Action: Get the word out
« Reply #220 on: September 05, 2012, 08:37:38 PM »
For anyone contacting NCSoft directly, use material from here:

http://global.ncsoft.com/global/aboutus/visiongoals.aspx

The whole thing reads like one big sick joke when their actual actions are compared to their words.
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Re: Call To Action: Get the word out
« Reply #221 on: September 05, 2012, 08:39:54 PM »
Doing a quick Google search for "City of Heroes" had the following news article listed at the top:
http://www.examiner.com/article/efforts-underway-to-save-city-of-heroes

It was posted just a few hours ago. Much love to Cecil Adkins at Examiner.com.  :D

Also this from Joystiq. Maybe we can take the time to tell them about our efforts while submitting entries to the contest.
http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/09/04/we-want-your-most-creative-city-of-heroes-character/

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Re: Call To Action: Get the word out
« Reply #222 on: September 05, 2012, 08:45:43 PM »
I've begun to send the petition link to friends who don't play the game but know my love for it....will continue to do so!!

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Re: Call To Action: Get the word out
« Reply #223 on: September 05, 2012, 09:09:45 PM »
For anyone contacting NCSoft directly, use material from here:

http://global.ncsoft.com/global/aboutus/visiongoals.aspx

The whole thing reads like one big sick joke when their actual actions are compared to their words.
If it's as silly as you describe it, I'm going to write to Jim Sterling with this right away. They won't escape the Jimquisition.

And I've just read it. He will love making a video about it.

Edit: Some precision:
He is famous for itchy comments, so he won't be taken harshly. I know we shouldn't blame NCSoft, but sarcasm and viral video could help get us coverage. Do we aim for the tradeoff or do we refrain from doing possibly misinterpretable videos ?
« Last Edit: September 05, 2012, 09:16:48 PM by Mister Bison »
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Re: Call To Action: Get the word out
« Reply #224 on: September 05, 2012, 09:24:34 PM »
I know we shouldn't blame NCSoft, but sarcasm and viral video could help get us coverage. Do we aim for the tradeoff or do we refrain from doing possibly misinterpretable videos ?

If it's a completely binary choice, I definitely prefer the latter course of action. Remember, the people we offend or look foolish in front of may well have the authority to redlight our favorite game. We don't need to provide them with any reasons to do so. In fact, if we're unrelentingly dignified, it becomes easy for them to unwittingly villify themselves (a fate I think they'll be keen on avoiding).

I know that sounds self-interested, but I accept that simply asking people to behave in a polite, personable manner won't be enough to sway everyone to my viewpoint.
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Re: Call To Action: Get the word out
« Reply #225 on: September 05, 2012, 09:26:02 PM »
I know we shouldn't blame NCSoft

The ball's in their court - they're the ones being unreasonable, so they are to blame for not selling the game.
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Re: Call To Action: Get the word out
« Reply #226 on: September 05, 2012, 09:29:00 PM »
The ball's in their court - they're the ones being unreasonable, so they are to blame for not selling the game.
Furthermore, it's just sarcastically pointing at how funny it is to "want to please everyone" in their "About us page" while closing overnight the online game even though it was [being profitable[/i].
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Re: Call To Action: Get the word out
« Reply #227 on: September 05, 2012, 09:29:06 PM »
The ball's in their court - they're the ones being unreasonable, so they are to blame for not selling the game.
Regardless of their original motivation for deciding to shut down NCsoft, I'm personally waiting to see the outcome of the negotiations between Paragon management and NCsoft before declaring them entirely unreasonable.  I'm sure that the original decision to shut down made perfect sense in their minds.

(Doesn't mean NCsoft will be getting any more money from me, though.)
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Re: Call To Action: Get the word out
« Reply #228 on: September 05, 2012, 09:30:54 PM »
Regardless of their original motivation for deciding to shut down NCsoft, I'm personally waiting to see the outcome of the negotiations between Paragon management and NCsoft before declaring them entirely unreasonable.  I'm sure that the original decision to shut down made perfect sense in their minds.

(Doesn't mean NCsoft will be getting any more money from me, though.)
Was coming up to this. If we unleash possibly negative content, we have to wait a bit. It's still less than a week old. They're a corporation, these things take time.
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Re: Call To Action: Get the word out
« Reply #229 on: September 05, 2012, 09:58:53 PM »
Was coming up to this. If we unleash possibly negative content, we have to wait a bit. It's still less than a week old. They're a corporation, these things take time.

agreed, we must try to remain civil minded for now

ncsoft has not released any PR statements regarding this just yet since we are still getting the word out

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Re: Call To Action: Get the word out
« Reply #230 on: September 05, 2012, 10:02:50 PM »
"You can attract more flies with honey than with lemon."

Come into my personal space, spatting in my face, yelling profanities or using harsh sarcasm and I shut down.

Approach me as a mature, respecting/respectful individual, with a calm tone and as an equal, and I'll be receptive.

I'm not sure I'm unique.

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Re: Call To Action: Get the word out
« Reply #231 on: September 05, 2012, 10:04:25 PM »
"You can attract more flies with honey than with lemon."

Come into my personal space, spatting in my face, yelling profanities or using harsh sarcasm and I shut down.

Approach me as a mature, respecting/respectful individual, with a calm tone and as an equal, and I'll be receptive.

I'm not sure I'm unique.

sounds pretty normal to me  ;D

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Re: Call To Action: Get the word out
« Reply #232 on: September 05, 2012, 10:42:22 PM »
I'm reluctant to suggest this, with Tony calling for patience, but what about an ad in a gaming mag?  When viewers are trying to save a favorite show, they pool resources and take out an ad in Variety.  What about putting an ad in Game Informer or MMO Games?

It costs, but we're all verbally willing to throw money at this without any real way of doing so, yet.  I'm not sure how the wording would have to be in setting up a crowd funding account, such that the overage could be retained in support of whichever future direction this movement ends up going, and it may still be jumping the gun, but I felt it bore pointing out as an immediate option.
I wouldn't use the word "replace," but there's no word for "take over for you and make everything better almost immediately," so we just say "replace."

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Re: Call To Action: Get the word out
« Reply #233 on: September 05, 2012, 10:50:36 PM »
agreed, we must try to remain civil minded for now

I know - but there's also a time limit - if they don't say anything at all this month, then we might need to step it up a bit.
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Re: Call To Action: Get the word out
« Reply #234 on: September 05, 2012, 10:59:07 PM »
I just contacted radio program "This American Life," which routinely spotlights themes in contemporary society and looks for interesting stories to tell. This was my message, edited to remove some identifiable information and without hyperlinks.

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This American Life,


Hello. I'm writing to you today to tell you part of a story that I think illustrates something deeper and more profound in modern America. It's the story of an electronic community fighting, as we speak, for its very survival. This community just so happens to be centered around a video game, and the video game just so happens to be centered around the nerdiest of fantasies: living a vicarious life as a super hero. The video game is titled City of Heroes, and it's a massively-multiplayer online game that challenges its players to create a comic-book-inspired alternate persona and fight (or perpetuate) crime in the fictitious, not-at-all-related-to-The-Big-Apple setting of Paragon City.


It's also a game that I've gladly paid a monthly fee to play for over seven years now.


It's also a game that is dying.


On August 31st, the game's publisher--the company that provides the infrastructure and support to operate the game--announced that continued support of City of Heroes no longer fit in the company's plans. The publisher, South Korea-based NCsoft, has had a hard time making ends meet of late and has apparently decided that the funds invested in the game would provide a higher return on investment elsewhere. The game's servers would be deactivated, effectively killing the game, by the end of the calendar year. The game's developers--the people that provided the intellectual capital and artistic knowhow to grow the game--were relived of duties effective immediately, and tens of thousands of subscribers--who pay up to $15 a month solely for the privilege of connecting to the City of Heroes servers--were shocked.


You see, the game isn't just a game. It's a community, and a remarkably tightly-knit one at that. People have met, fallen in love, and even gotten married with Paragon City a a backdrop. I personally enjoy talking, on a regular basis, to fans from Las Vegas, Quebec, New Zealand, and Bulgaria from the comfort of my home in Tennessee. We, the City of Heroes community, write. We share, we create, and we get to know one another in a relaxed setting--a sort of virtual Bohemia. And we learn: we learn how to be heroes. The game is known for the fans' advocating of gay rights and the real-world charity drive aptly named "Real World Hero."


So, yes, they--we--were shocked with the news that all of that would be gone. As far as we all knew--and still know--the game is profitable. We couldn't have seen it coming. There was silence. There were tears (which, as a grown man, I'm slow to admit that I personally contributed to in no small quantity). Then, just when it looked like the electronic world we'd invested financially, intellectually, socially, and emotionally into would vanish in a fit of corporate greed that would've made Superman's archenemy, Lex Luthor, proud, we remembered more things we learned from the heroes we pretended to be.


We remembered how to band together. We remembered how to hope. We remembered how to fight the good fight.


We wrote letters to the publisher, NCsoft. We reached out to anyone and everyone with the smallest amount of celebrity to lend to our cause. We started plans to reverse-engineer the City of Heroes server needed to make the game work, with or without NCsoft's support. In the hopes of pressuring NCsoft into bringing the game back to life or, failing that, selling the game to another publisher that would, we began a public relations campaign.


In the interest of full disclosure, that PR campaign is the reason I first thought of This American Life, but it occurred to me later that this is a story with themes that apply to modern America: a grassroots movement against perceived corporate heartlessness. Rallying via the Internet to create change. Even the very idea of a subculture coming to life virtually ex nihilo through online communications and existing entirely in the aether speaks to where America is and where it's going.


I think this is a story worthy of This American Life. I wouldn't be writing if I didn't feel that way. These players have wonderful stories to tell--if you want to hear from players whose lives have been touched by the game and its community, I could produce dozens within a day. I know personally of lives that have been saved because of the social network the game provided. And we will fight, with poise and grace, to save the game that made all of that possible.


If you're interested in following along, the efforts to Save Paragon City! are being coordinated by longtime fansite Titan Network, led by Tony V.
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Re: Call To Action: Get the word out
« Reply #235 on: September 05, 2012, 11:28:56 PM »
I sent a similar email to Science Friday and am investigating sending one to the All Tech Considered blog.  Also sent an email to the editor of DVice on the SyFy.com site.
I wouldn't use the word "replace," but there's no word for "take over for you and make everything better almost immediately," so we just say "replace."

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Re: Call To Action: Get the word out
« Reply #236 on: September 05, 2012, 11:30:16 PM »
I sent a similar email to Science Friday and am investigating sending one to the All Tech Considered blog.  Also sent an email to the editor of DVice on the SyFy.com site.

I already hit up Monkey See, which is mostly a printed blog. Do you think All Tech Considered or SciFri would be interested, though? It's an intriguing thought!
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Re: Call To Action: Get the word out
« Reply #237 on: September 05, 2012, 11:54:10 PM »
I'm reluctant to suggest this, with Tony calling for patience, but what about an ad in a gaming mag?  When viewers are trying to save a favorite show, they pool resources and take out an ad in Variety.  What about putting an ad in Game Informer or MMO Games?

It costs, but we're all verbally willing to throw money at this without any real way of doing so, yet.  I'm not sure how the wording would have to be in setting up a crowd funding account, such that the overage could be retained in support of whichever future direction this movement ends up going, and it may still be jumping the gun, but I felt it bore pointing out as an immediate option.

The problem with an ad in a magazine is that it can take 2-3 months for it to go out, by which point it'll be too late.

An ad in a newspaper would be quicker, but then it's not necessarily the right audience.

A quicker and more relevant options might be an ad on website, like a site take over of MMORPG.COM. But those can cost $10,000+.

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Re: Call To Action: Get the word out
« Reply #238 on: September 06, 2012, 12:20:41 AM »
There are a number of reasons I wasn't enthusiastic about a print ad. cost and timing ware big ones.

With ATC and SciFri, it's the virtual "uprising" angle.
I wouldn't use the word "replace," but there's no word for "take over for you and make everything better almost immediately," so we just say "replace."

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Re: Call To Action: Get the word out
« Reply #239 on: September 06, 2012, 01:22:27 AM »
Wonderful letter there, Vulpy!  *thumbs up*

...also, you're from Tennessee, too??   ;D