The Shot Heard Around Paragon City - SCORE Public Release

Started by Super Atom, April 16, 2019, 04:19:43 AM

Super Atom

#420
Quote from: undeadsuits on April 18, 2019, 08:31:08 AM
You can't heal wounds you don't acknowledge first

Chill my dude, a lot of stuff went down and honestly i can say i feel Leo is not the enemy or a bad person. What happened is unfortunate but He does love CoH and is working for us not against us.

IF you don't believe me, check my earlier posts. I was right where you were.

I'm not trying to be vague, the stuff will come out through recordings from the segs discord and stuff soon no doubt. I don't personally have them or i'd show myself.

Mister Hassenpheffer

Is that where you want to be?

Do you want to stay wounded?   Forever?

Is that your comfort zone?

Because I see the rift as Thanos.

We either Heal up, Patch up, or... *Snap*

I've made my choice.

I'll Heal.

undeadsuits

Unfortunately my opinions and experiences from the last several years can't be changed in an afternoon of Soontm so quickly.

But I will be watching what happens over the next several days and I hope to be proven wrong.

Super Atom

Approach with caution certainly. I'm satisfied with the transparency and honesty and am willing to give it a chance.

summers

I just wanted to say thank you for talking to us, Leandro.

Voltixdark

Thank you Leo! I understand your hardship with real life things. We are not robots that never weary, but human. There are more important things in the real world then to strain yourself over something that is virtual. So I do hope you're in better health!

We appreciate your progress and forthcomingness. I can't speak for everyone, but I really do want to apologize for all the unwarranted hate/death threats you have received without even knowing the full story.

Anyways.. keep your head up I know we the people can be better than what was displayed these past few days.

Auroxis

Thanks for participating Leandro. I'm not 100% buying your side of the story about having limited time due to real life issues, considering how you spent your time hiding the existence of the server with relationship flowcharts, developing new content for the server, managing paragon chat, and silencing people.

That being said I have no problem with giving you the time you need. That time is not mine to give of course with NCSoft and insane people threatening you, but I hope that despite that you manage to pull through with the plans you set forward in your post.

Phocks

#427
Quote from: Leandro on April 18, 2019, 06:00:37 AMI am the asshole who didn't release things fast enough. That is a valid complaint. But that was not a decision that was done to harm the community because "f*** you, got mine" like so many people are saying.

I will say the whole body of the post is very unfortunate, especially hearing about the community passings and personal struggles. Sorry to hear you've had to deal with those though, and especially the negative overreactions and harassment following the announcement.

But I will say, the quoted portion there is something I (at least personally) sort of take exception with. It's not the timing alone that really makes or breaks it, it's sort of every decision around it. If it had taken this long with a team of 5 trying to get something ready, you wouldn't see this sort of reaction. But it's playing gatekeeper for a community of 3539 that's seen the game progress past where it was. It's getting something that everyone wanted that really wasn't yours to keep, and rather than paying it forward, you just kept it for that group anyway. The policies and practices and everything surrounding it that may have ostracized people is at least some part of that, too.

Nobody's gonna blame you for time passing or being human. People here were always willing to wait, but I don't think anyone wanted to be misled, lied to, and excluded.

P51mus

There's a game I've kickstarted that's been in development for about as long as this private server has been up.  They had to toss a bunch of work because the original way they were doing it wasn't working out well, and had to take a bunch of side gigs to survive.  But it's still ongoing.

DavidMadly

Quote from: Mister Hassenpheffer on April 18, 2019, 08:16:27 AM
I don't hate to be "That person" I've had my hand in running private servers (Not COH related) So I know a thing or two about setbacks.

So I'm going to say what nobody wants to hear but needs to be said.

Instead of coming out with all the pitchforks and torches, because THAT is EASY...

We should do what is NOT Easy.

Instead... we should put on our capes and be heroes.

Heal your wounds.

Come back together as the community we are supposed to be and if at all possible...

Dear God if at all possible...please, support Leo.

All of this. I am far too full of renewed hope to have room for negative feelings.

Twi

I am a defender and so can you.

Evilopoly90

I really want this to work out. Despite all the hassle and the lies I just want the game back. However that gets into my hands is irrelevant. I'll forgive everyone involved if the game just comes out. That's all the community wants.

Ironwolf

#432
At this point - I will say one thing - be patient for a bit and stand by, I am not retired until August and have to ask about conflicts of interest issues.

I also get a sizable severance when I leave that I/we don't want to endanger for a couple of months waiting. I cannot do business during work hours and so that becomes an obvious issue.

I am going to be as honest and above board as possible, please be patient for a little longer.

Understand, I am a system admin on call normally 24/7 until August 31st.

Doc Boy

Its being posted everywhere, this happened in the wee hours of the night on discord there was over 100 people in voice chat during this period.

https://puu.sh/Dgpzj/32ed08128a.mp3

Sinistar

Okay so for years people that thought there was a secret server were called crazy, etc......

However during those early years, if NCSoft and the rest of us learned there was indeed a secret server, how fast would NCSoft have moved to kill that server?

Now after 7 years of shut down, despite refusal to sell the game....it is possible NCSoft won't care. Or not.

Frankly I hope this works out and we can all play again and give a giant middle finger to NCSoft.
In fearful COH-less days
In Raging COH-less nights
With Strong Hearts Full, we shall UNITE!
When all seems lost in the effort to bring CoH back to life,
Look to Cyberspace, where HOPE burns bright!

Styrj

My sentiments exactly!  At this point, I hope for the best (to be able to frolic in the city again and expect the worst (as it is now - no CoH/V)).

The least NC could have done was to have put CoH/V in maintenance mode at I24.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it!  Infinity Server...

Garble

This is so surreal. Over on Reddit yesterday there was a discussion of former gamers and what made them stop. This was the only big game I really ever got into. Then on facebook there was a post about some of this and was blown away. Immediately I came to CohTitan to read about it and found no specific threads.

This really needs a stickied thread. I rarely visit this thread because it's honestly just too big and too much. It's basically just a big chat room at this point.


  • I completely sympathize with why it was secret. But I also understand why people feel betrayed. Especially with the overlap of this community and secret server users. (The full extent of the overlap I'm still unclear about.)
  • I'm not quite as understanding of why it wasn't leaked sooner so other people could try to use it. Life getting in the way of making a fully public server is actually really good reason to pass the baton on to others. And 6 years is a long time keep making excuses.
  • It's really unexpected that the Character info is still available in some form. I'm wondering how up to date it is.
  • If the secret server shared any structure with PC, does that put PC at risk of going away?

Anyway, I can't be anything but grateful for Icon and Paragon Chat. I'm trying to be hopeful for the best possible outcome, whatever that is.

bugzee

Well, I want to be positive about this. But looking forward, we still have the potential for another shutdown once NCSoft releases their legal hounds (if they haven't already). I also do not wish Leandro or anyone else to suffer legal consequences. Releasing the code 6 years ago would have at least ensured that the game will in some way always exist. Sure it may have meant a thousand private servers, but still, it would have ensured its continual existence. So now, we will always be faced with uncertainty with the game because its under control of only one person, or perhaps just a handful of individuals. I suppose the game will always have that proverbial sword hanging over its head.

Ironwolf

More information will be coming - looks like my retirement will be really short.

Soon as possible more information and requests for help will be given.

To be crystal clear - I have no connection to a private server - I have never been on it and want no information about it. Detailed information about what is happening will be available as soon as possible. This will take a little time and planning to do.

Ironwolf

Quote from: undeadsuits on April 18, 2019, 06:17:33 AM
If you are truly working on getting the server up and running for public release, now is the time to create a public roadmap of your progress/destination and post it somewhere so that everyone can see it.

No, now is the time for him to step back into the quiet.

We need others to pick up the torch, he carried it a long time and got burned a little.