Supergirl TV Series

[Vee]

Oh the movies are definitely different universes despite the rip hunter name dropping. I thought you meant is Supergirl the same as Arrow etc.

[Felderburg]

I hope it's a different universe.  I'd hate to pollute the cool Flash/Arrow/Legends universe with the crappy DC movie one.

Oh, is Supergirl in the DC movie universe? I didn't know.

Someone should post a "catch me up" for people like me who watch The Flash but not Supergirl.

[hurple]

Oh, is Supergirl in the DC movie universe? I didn't know.

Someone should post a "catch me up" for people like me who watch The Flash but not Supergirl.

That's just an assumption based on things Geoff Johns has said.  It has not been made explicit, yet.  It could be wrong, especially now that Rip Hunter name-dropped both Superman and Batman in the latest Legends episode.

[Felderburg]

So how did they do Superman in the first episode? I guess it wasn't Henry Cavill.

[Golden Girl]

Supergirl isn't part of that horrific garbage that WB claims is a "DC cinematic universe".

[Noyjitat]

I guess I'm probably the only one hoping it turns out like Crisis on Infinite Earths  :P

If that's the comic where supergirl died a rather pointless death then f that... Killing her was one of the biggest mistakes dc ever made.

[Golden Girl]

A couple of previews for tomorrow:



Non twirls his invisible Kryptonian mustache:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HGoF6Bo3wA



And Hank has trouble with heels and Cat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EDTIu2PFuM

[Ohioknight]

There should be a German word for pride/shame.  I recognized the plant from the one special effects glimpse last week and said to my wife "yay, it's that plant thing Mongol gave Superman in that Alan Moore story -- the one that made Bruce Wayne dream his parents hadn't been killed". 

I see they're titling this episode "For the Girl Who Has Everything" -- very cute.

[Dev7on]

I hope it's a different universe.  I'd hate to pollute the cool Flash/Arrow/Legends universe with the crappy DC movie one.

There have been rumors that The Flash from the tv show might have a cameo appearance in Batman vs. Superman. They're trying to form a Justice League movie.

[Tenzhi]

There should be a German word for pride/shame.  I recognized the plant from the one special effects glimpse last week and said to my wife "yay, it's that plant thing Mongol gave Superman in that Alan Moore story -- the one that made Bruce Wayne dream his parents hadn't been killed". 

I see they're titling this episode "For the Girl Who Has Everything" -- very cute.

Ah, so my post about it was actually on the mark.  Even if this series doesn't last long, it's done a pretty good job of tickling my fan bone.

[Vee]

There have been rumors that The Flash from the tv show might have a cameo appearance in Batman vs. Superman. They're trying to form a Justice League movie.

Except there's going to be a Flash movie too and it has a different actor playing Barry.

[hurple]

Except there's going to be a Flash movie too and it has a different actor playing Barry.

Which is stupid, since the TV cast is consistently knocking it out of the park week in and week out.

And, damn them, making me care about Leonard Snart...

[Vee]

TV Barry's alternating between 'aw shucks' and irrational tirade is getting on my nerves. Of course that's more my problem with the writing than anything against the actor.

[RGladden]

The only really interesting part of the show for me, so far, has been the unveiling of the Martian Manhunter.  Considering how the writers have been treating the character in recent episodes, as in he's a "mentor" who is constantly being bailed out of a jam by his "pupil", I've become convinced that he would do better with his own show.  Note to writers and directors;  J'onn is considered to be the physical equal of Kal-El.  How about treating him that way.  He needs to kick butt to be a credible asset to the show.

[Felderburg]

Considering how the writers have been treating the character in recent episodes, as in he's a "mentor" who is constantly being bailed out of a jam by his "pupil", I've become convinced that he would do better with his own show.

CBS comic universe confirmed!

[Ohioknight]

...  Note to writers and directors;  J'onn is considered to be the physical equal of Kal-El.  How about treating him that way.  He needs to kick butt to be a credible asset to the show.

J'onn is by any reasonable measure vastly the SUPERIOR to Kal-El through most of his history.  He is the most notoriously power-inflated character in the history of comics -- possessing any power temporarily convenient for the writer.  In JLA of the late 60's/70's he had "Martian Speed" and "Martian Vision" and could take on any other character's powers by changing his form to match them.  Sensible writers scale that back a BIT.  (Interestingly on Supergirl he doesn't seem to be able to turn invisible -- one of his earliest and most basic powers)

[Vee]

Later on they even made his fire weakness only a psychological one so he could ignore it when it was plot convenient too.

[Kaos Arcanna]

J'onn is by any reasonable measure vastly the SUPERIOR to Kal-El through most of his history.  He is the most notoriously power-inflated character in the history of comics -- possessing any power temporarily convenient for the writer.  In JLA of the late 60's/70's he had "Martian Speed" and "Martian Vision" and could take on any other character's powers by changing his form to match them.  Sensible writers scale that back a BIT.  (Interestingly on Supergirl he doesn't seem to be able to turn invisible -- one of his earliest and most basic powers)

J'onn, like most DC Characters, suffered a huge power increase in the 1980s.

In the 1960s stuff I've seen of him, he was nowhere near Superman's class in terms of strength or durability. He used "Martian breath" far more than his telepathy or Martian vision.

But when they brought him back after Crisis he got a huge power bump (and he stole Superman's "last of his race" theme too as the Pre-Crisis J'onn was one of thousands of surviving Martians.)

[Vee]

I think his power increase post-Crisis was more from Supes being scaled back a bit. They stopped having the various visions, breath etc. of his 'palette-swapped Superman' days well before that and started emphasizing the telepathy and shape-shifting more. But like most comics characters, writer caprice and plot convenience are way more determinate of powers than consistency.

Spoiler for Hidden:

He seemed to be about Astra's equal in power on the show, just a lamer fighter. Presumably he took over the Henshaw persona after Henshaw's combat training :P

Edit - Barely two hours after I wrote the above my Justice League reading ran into a couple of Priest written JL Task Force issues from 1995 where J'onn starts using the eyebeams right and left.

[Ohioknight]

J'onn, like most DC Characters, suffered a huge power increase in the 1980s.

In the 1960s stuff I've seen of him, he was nowhere near Superman's class in terms of strength or durability. He used "Martian breath" far more than his telepathy or Martian vision.

In his own 60's series he was fairly mild on the power scale, but in JLA they had him able to take anybody's power he duplicated the form of (his Superman power was taken away when he was exposed to yellow Kryptonite but he presumably could have still turned into Supergirl or anybody else who was powerful)  And, of course, he had the power to have any power the writer wanted him to have since there was no 'canon' except that fire was like Krytonite to him.