Sup lawyers?

[Joshex]

Hi lawyers of Titan, I thought I would give any legal professionals here the first crack at a soon to be legal matter involving the cigarette companies.

queue the Seinfeld jokes.

it's not like Kramer however and I don't smoke, it has to do with some dangerous and very physically visible harm that has come to me several times due to smokers. I am not talking about second hand smoke, I am talking about secondhand ash!

it has happened to me at least twice recently and unless something is done I'm sure it will happen again and I'll have instant physical damage to show (as and when I do I want to know someone I can contact to begin legal proceedings), in fact as I'm typing this I have said damage but the swelling is going down.

so what happened? I walk around busy cities (smoking should be banned in heavily populated cities and illegal like a drug anyways), smokers just walk casually around the city through narrow pathways at a slow pace ETC. forcing my fast paced walking to catch up to them and have to pass them (otherwise I'll be in the road or be walking at less than a mile an hour waiting for them to remove their slow leisurely smoker pace from my path);

Then the wind picks up and takes the ash off the tip of their cigarette directly into my eye

burns to the insides of my eyelids, intense pain, swelling and blistering of the inner eyelid, and to top that off, the tobacco ash sticks to the inside and for some reason absorbs my tears making my eyes dry and unable to flush it out, in-fact tears and eye-drops have no effect, only painfully rubbing the burn spots with a wet cue tip till I can't stand it anymore works, and only somewhat (I still didn't get it all out and the pain might last for days, and even worse I'm worried about my vision and possible eye cancer or loss of vision later in life. I didn't ask for this damage and it's the cigarette companies faults for selling such a dangerous product.

If anyone else has had this happen to them post here, with pictures of the damage if possible

So what is my claim? the designed ability for the ash to merely drop off into the wind has turned cigarettes into a projectile weapon, I wish to sue the companies for illegal sale of projectile firearms without legal authority and the reckless endangerment of non-smoking citizens with their product's flying hot ash/ sticky ash.

Cigarettes should have some sort of smoke/ash trap on their end to prevent it from flying in other peoples faces, but obviously I want compensation for being hit by their projectile firearm ash dispenser, and I want the lawyer who represents me to get a handsome check too.

Summary: I don't smoke, got cigarette ash in eye from smoker on street, burns and damage to inner eyelid, want compensation for this damage and possible future side effects including possible eye cancer or loss of sight, requested amount $8 million (per person if a class action lawsuit) plus legal compensation for the lawyer.

if you are a legal professional or know one who is interested in this keep in touch with me and I will get pictures and a doctor visit the next time it happens then we can proceed forwards. (I expect it to happen again within a month or two due to the amount of smokers in edinburgh and the fact I have to walk long distances frequently.

Aggel want to remove this? I really am trying to not have diarrhea of the mouth, I'm just trying to give business to fellow titans if they want it. friends first and all.

[houtex]

Josh, it is unlikely in the extreme that you will get cancer from the ash of a cigarette.  The amount of cancer causing agents in the spent fuel of the cigarette is so minutely low, if any, you have a better chance of getting cancer from the cell phone use.  Further, there are other irritants in the air that could cause the cancer, if it happens, or it could be just freaking luck of your cells deciding to just go nuts.

So then we are talking simple contamination, on the likes of dirt, say, or maybe salt water from the ocean, or even an inadvertent spritz of something into your eye because you had the nozzle pointed the wrong way (like I did for the gas into the eyeball trick I did a couple of years back.)  You gonna blame the makers of the nozzle for not having eye-pointing detection and nozzle defeats?  I think not.  You're expected to know how to use a nozzle. 

And then there's the intent.  The makers intend for you to use an ashtray.  That someone flicks the ash just anywhere without regard for it's landing spot is more the USER, not the maker.

And how, exactly, do you arrest the flight, or leaving, of cigarette ash in the first place?  It can't stay suck on the cigarette.  The chemicals involved in making THAT happen would likely kill the user.  So that's totally not happening.

If you want to be mad and sue someone... sue the cigarette users themselves.  The use of the product is the problem.  If you got everyone to quit, the problem solves itself.

By the way, if anything is going to cause eye cancer, gas is a good candidate as any... and so far as I know, nothing has come of it.  And brake fluid too, by the by.  Among other eye infiltrating things over my many years.

Anyway, the point is... while I get that you are not happy about someone else smoking and that ash flying off and hitting your eye... it is nothing any respectable lawyer is going to take, for the reasons I just listed.  Secondarily, if a lawyer DOES take it, that lawyer is doing it solely because you have money, and sure as heck, they'll take the money to do the research and such, even have the proof for you, just to say 'no'.  Or even take it to an actual court, what do they care, they're just doing their job for you, and then the courts will tell you to get the heck out of their face.

Good luck and all, but man... might as well sue God for dirt in the eyes in a dust storm, man.

[Joshex]

Josh, it is unlikely in the extreme that you will get cancer from the ash of a cigarette.  The amount of cancer causing agents in the spent fuel of the cigarette is so minutely low, if any, you have a better chance of getting cancer from the cell phone use.  Further, there are other irritants in the air that could cause the cancer, if it happens, or it could be just freaking luck of your cells deciding to just go nuts.

So then we are talking simple contamination, on the likes of dirt, say, or maybe salt water from the ocean, or even an inadvertent spritz of something into your eye because you had the nozzle pointed the wrong way (like I did for the gas into the eyeball trick I did a couple of years back.)  You gonna blame the makers of the nozzle for not having eye-pointing detection and nozzle defeats?  I think not.  You're expected to know how to use a nozzle. 

And then there's the intent.  The makers intend for you to use an ashtray.  That someone flicks the ash just anywhere without regard for it's landing spot is more the USER, not the maker.

And how, exactly, do you arrest the flight, or leaving, of cigarette ash in the first place?  It can't stay suck on the cigarette.  The chemicals involved in making THAT happen would likely kill the user.  So that's totally not happening.

If you want to be mad and sue someone... sue the cigarette users themselves.  The use of the product is the problem.  If you got everyone to quit, the problem solves itself.

By the way, if anything is going to cause eye cancer, gas is a good candidate as any... and so far as I know, nothing has come of it.  And brake fluid too, by the by.  Among other eye infiltrating things over my many years.

Anyway, the point is... while I get that you are not happy about someone else smoking and that ash flying off and hitting your eye... it is nothing any respectable lawyer is going to take, for the reasons I just listed.  Secondarily, if a lawyer DOES take it, that lawyer is doing it solely because you have money, and sure as heck, they'll take the money to do the research and such, even have the proof for you, just to say 'no'.  Or even take it to an actual court, what do they care, they're just doing their job for you, and then the courts will tell you to get the heck out of their face.

Good luck and all, but man... might as well sue God for dirt in the eyes in a dust storm, man.

I suppose.

I thank you for your input, I always appreciate another point of view.

the blisters from the hot ash are still there, I just don't think suing individual customers is the right way to go about it, they are victims to the tobacco companies after all.

lol if the government had their way smokers would have to have damage insurance. Just a thought of my own considering the normality factor, not quite what I'd like though.

[Burnt Toast]

Never quite sure if you are being serious when you post or not....


To answer your original post - you have no actionable cause.

[Taceus Jiwede]

I had this same problem.  I just started smoking and using my eyes as ash tray's.  They have formed a nice callus.  Now I make $8 million a year just traveling the US with carnivals performing frightening and sickening tricks involving my callused eyes.

[Aggelakis]

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