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Ok its Dec 3rd!

Started by Frostyfrozen, December 03, 2012, 06:42:10 PM

Frostyfrozen

What is the news!?
Do we have any ears being whispered in yesterday/today as NCsoftcore is Korean so 1 days ahead of NA. Any action on thier side would have started hopefull thier Monday or in a few hours on Tuesday. So are we just waitting for the evening of the NA west coast?

Ironwolf

The wheels of business turn slowly and then faster.

I would fully expect this to be happening "IF" Disney is interested:

1. They call in the Lawyers to see what and who is tied to the IP
2. They call NCSoft and set up a conference
3. They say how much and then walk away for a week
4. They come back and say we will give you this much.........NCSoft walks away for a week
5. Repeat until someone says Yes
6. Lawyers again - another 2 weeks
7. Money changes hands
8. IP gets handed over to whoever buys it
9. hire programmers and server dudes, marketing geeks and start training service techs
10. servers up and code loaded - testing
11. Beta of Issue 24
12. Live

This would take 2 or 3 MONTHS - shortest time.

That is reality - nothing happens without throwing money at lawyers.

dwturducken

The sad thing is, we may not even hear a word of it until Brian Clayton and John Pleasants are up on the podium behind Robert Iger while he announces the acquisition.
I wouldn't use the word "replace," but there's no word for "take over for you and make everything better almost immediately," so we just say "replace."

Frostyfrozen

Then I'll rev up and swing back in to protesting via posts on loose'ing my first and most loved avatar and recomending others not pick up anything NCsoft.
TY

JaguarX

Quote from: Ironwolf on December 03, 2012, 09:11:01 PM
The wheels of business turn slowly and then faster.

I would fully expect this to be happening "IF" Disney is interested:

1. They call in the Lawyers to see what and who is tied to the IP
2. They call NCSoft and set up a conference
3. They say how much and then walk away for a week
4. They come back and say we will give you this much.........NCSoft walks away for a week
5. Repeat until someone says Yes
6. Lawyers again - another 2 weeks
7. Money changes hands
8. IP gets handed over to whoever buys it
9. hire programmers and server dudes, marketing geeks and start training service techs
10. servers up and code loaded - testing
11. Beta of Issue 24
12. Live

This would take 2 or 3 MONTHS - shortest time.

That is reality - nothing happens without throwing money at lawyers.

yep.

It's a sloooow roll.

BUT!!! If it works out, then it will be more than worth the wait.

TimtheEnchanter

I was also suggested that some NDA's might be gone now, so we could hear more from the devs as well. Guess that's not happening either and as I feared, it probably exists until the end of time.

Frostyfrozen

I know it will take the time you have all agreed with the 2-3 months I thought it be the same too. It's the "Yes we are now open to sell the IP." Or "Ha ha you all really thought we would sell it you funny people." 
Thats what I looking for but seems I'm SOL so I back to the protesting ect.

Victoria Victrix

Believe me, I understand the frustration.

Disney is slow and ponderous (which is kind of interesting, since Marvel is quick and nimble and Marvel tends to make lightning decisions).  Disney is also secretive (this is smart, given their size). 

Team Wildcard is debating on who next to go after.  If we hear nothing within a month-ish, we'll announce the next target.  By the time of the announcement, we will already have the revised pitch package tuned to the new recipient on its way.
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eabrace

Quote from: TimtheEnchanter on December 03, 2012, 10:54:21 PM
I was also suggested that some NDA's might be gone now, so we could hear more from the devs as well. Guess that's not happening either and as I feared, it probably exists until the end of time.
Even if the NDAs have expired, developers are still going to be very careful about what they say out in the open.  You have to remember that the gaming industry isn't that large an industry and if you say the wrong thing, suddenly you have a reputation that will follow you into every interview you ever have in the industry until you either retire or die.
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dwturducken

Quote from: Frostyfrozen on December 03, 2012, 11:39:46 PM
I know it will take the time you have all agreed with the 2-3 months I thought it be the same too. It's the "Yes we are now open to sell the IP." Or "Ha ha you all really thought we would sell it you funny people." 
Thats what I looking for but seems I'm SOL so I back to the protesting ect.

The only problem with going to someone like Disney, first (yes, only as it applies to this thread), is that, unless it gets to the point where Brian Clayton is involved, we may never know if it was the latter.
I wouldn't use the word "replace," but there's no word for "take over for you and make everything better almost immediately," so we just say "replace."

Victoria Victrix

Quote from: dwturducken on December 03, 2012, 11:57:11 PM
The only problem with going to someone like Disney, first (yes, only as it applies to this thread), is that, unless it gets to the point where Brian Clayton is involved, we may never know if it was the latter.

That's why we're debating right now who to pitch to next.  We're in this for the long haul.
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corvus1970

Quote from: eabrace on December 03, 2012, 11:56:34 PM
Even if the NDAs have expired, developers are still going to be very careful about what they say out in the open.  You have to remember that the gaming industry isn't that large an industry and if you say the wrong thing, suddenly you have a reputation that will follow you into every interview you ever have in the industry until you either retire or die.
This.

Its one thing to make a statement here and there, but certain ones could be viewed as burning bridges AND salting the Earth, and sometimes its best to let such things lie.
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TimtheEnchanter

Quote from: corvus1970 on December 03, 2012, 11:59:37 PM
This.

Its one thing to make a statement here and there, but certain ones could be viewed as burning bridges AND salting the Earth, and sometimes its best to let such things lie.

It's just so ridiculous that with something like CoH, everything has to be kept locked up, not just by the devs, but by any potential buyers, AND NCsoft, but when it's a Hollywood movie or an album, etc, everything that goes both wrong AND right, gets publicized all over the place.

corvus1970

There should be a TMZ for the gaming industry!
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dwturducken

I wouldn't use the word "replace," but there's no word for "take over for you and make everything better almost immediately," so we just say "replace."

corvus1970

Okay okay, perhaps not TMZ, but rather a "G4 - BEHIND THE GAME!" show. That would give us an opportunity to hear the immortal phrase "And then, behind the scenes, everything went wrong" in reference to games instead of music ;)
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Tahquitz

Quote from: corvus1970 on December 04, 2012, 12:10:36 AM
Okay okay, perhaps not TMZ, but rather a "G4 - BEHIND THE GAME!" show. That would give us an opportunity to hear the immortal phrase "And then, behind the scenes, everything went wrong" in reference to games instead of music ;)

We're not even going to see that happen. 
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dwturducken

I stopped watching Tech TV shortly after "A Call for Help" was cancelled. It stopped bothering me when G4 bought them. This just seals it.
I wouldn't use the word "replace," but there's no word for "take over for you and make everything better almost immediately," so we just say "replace."

Frostyfrozen

Quote from: Victoria Victrix on December 03, 2012, 11:59:09 PM
That's why we're debating right now who to pitch to next.  We're in this for the long haul.

Ohh intersting maybe I'll have to rethink my next FB poll as it was going to be a who would you NOT want to see pick up CoH. Maybe ill used a what holiday should have had a event in CoH.
But VV if you where thinking Mc Donald's I'd ask plz reconsider.  ;D
(Not a dig for info just a joke as they where to be on my poll.)

corvus1970

Quote from: dwturducken on December 04, 2012, 03:28:13 AM
I stopped watching Tech TV shortly after "A Call for Help" was cancelled. It stopped bothering me when G4 bought them. This just seals it.

Agreed. The continued lowest-denominator homogenization of one cable channel after another continues without abatement. Pa-fricking-thetic.
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