The Shot Heard Around Paragon City - SCORE Public Release

Started by Super Atom, April 16, 2019, 04:19:43 AM

weenus

Quote from: saipaman on April 18, 2019, 01:01:12 AM
Congrats!   You made me laugh!

Consider that payback for helping me locate the CIT where I cringed while reading a roleplay character profile I wrote a decade ago.

undeadsuits

Quote from: saipaman on April 18, 2019, 01:32:54 AM
If by RWZ raids, you mean mother ship raids.   I agree with you.

It would be easier listing raids that werent laggy tbh

saipaman

Quote from: weenus on April 18, 2019, 01:41:54 AM
Consider that payback for helping me locate the CIT where I cringed while reading a roleplay character profile I wrote a decade ago.

Be thankful it was there for you to read.

Taceus Jiwede

Quote from: Ironwolf on April 18, 2019, 01:38:23 AM
I am not really angry - more disappointed that some people lost sight of the goal.

They found Van Gogh's Starry Night left in the attic of a house and instead of sharing it with the world - or even attempt to - they had it locked in a safe and showed it to their friends only. Many people spent thousands of hours enjoying the world in our own painting. When we thought it was gone, destroyed in a moment as the game literally stopped in our arms - we found out someone had it all along.

Can you imagine a world without Van Gogh? Isaac Asimov? Harry Freaking Dresden? To some of us this was art and joy as we sat and watched the sun set on Talos.

It disappoints me that so many unknowns exist - could those purchasing the game have had access to this code? Would it have been simpler for them to negotiate for the rights of the game if they didn't need NCSoft to help? I just see wasted time and the final cart being pushed down the road as they yell bring out your dead. I fear this killed the game - not the leaks but the fear and honestly from my point of view insanity of a few.

If they said - we will kept one secret as a back up and open one and see what happens - I would completely understand never showing the secret one if the open one was C&D'd. It wasn't what they did - they did hide, lie and deflect for YEARS. I am stubborn, but very disappointed.

Basically where I am at, just really disappointed.  And to make it worse, judging by what I have seen from various leaks - there was no intent to make this public.  I will say it makes me a little angry when I see "This was for the good of the community and now it's ruined" because its insulting to be asked to trust someone who just lied to you for 6 years.  My chances of playing CoH were already at 0% I don't know why I should believe this whole leak has somehow made it even more unlikely for me to ever play.  The only thing SCoRE could do in retaliation is...create a private server and not invite most people.  If the code is taken away from them by NCSoft, or they decide to get rid of it.  The vast majority of the community is exactly in the same place we have been in for 7 years.

saipaman

Quote from: undeadsuits on April 18, 2019, 01:42:57 AM
It would be easier listing raids that werent laggy tbh

"Ground to a halt" might be a better description.  It was still fun and I'd do it again.

Dale-Man

When I found out about this server, honestly, I was thrilled! The fact that there is a working server is good news.  If you asked me last week, I would have thought I most likely would never play this game again. Now, I am 99% sure that I will.

It seems there is a whole team of people working on this server. I doubt they're getting paid; this would be a labor of love. I am confident they will release the code if for no other reason than because I have a hard time believing their end goal is to have a low population server all to themselves.

Instead of assuming the worst, let's hope for the best. That is all we can do.

Taceus Jiwede

Quote from: Dale-Man on April 18, 2019, 01:53:00 AM
When I found out about this server, honestly, I was thrilled! The fact that there is a working server is good news. I was hopeful that there was a secret  If you asked me last week, I would have thought I most likely would never play this game again. Now, I am 99% sure that I will.

It seems there is a whole team of people working on this server. I doubt they're getting paid; this would be a labor of love. I am confident they will release the code if for no other reason than because I have a hard time believing their end goal is to have a low population server all to themselves.

Instead of assuming the worst, let's hope for the best. That is all we can do.

I appreciate the optimism and I hope it does mean we can all play again.  Perhaps I've read too much bias from one side.

Ironwolf

Quote from: Dale-Man on April 18, 2019, 01:53:00 AM
When I found out about this server, honestly, I was thrilled! The fact that there is a working server is good news.  If you asked me last week, I would have thought I most likely would never play this game again. Now, I am 99% sure that I will.

It seems there is a whole team of people working on this server. I doubt they're getting paid; this would be a labor of love. I am confident they will release the code if for no other reason than because I have a hard time believing their end goal is to have a low population server all to themselves.

Instead of assuming the worst, let's hope for the best. That is all we can do.

They have had the server working for at least 6 years. The original game ran for 8 years. They have nearly had the Elitist server open for nearly as long as the game ran legally, let that sink in and tell me again how they ever planned to share the game.

Super Atom

Quote from: Ironwolf on April 18, 2019, 01:58:06 AM
They have had the server working for at least 6 years. The original game ran for 8 years. They have nearly had the Elitist server open for nearly as long as the game ran legally, let that sink in and tell me again how they ever planned to share the game.

This is pretty much how i feel about this.

weenus

If we ever do get to play again, a supergroup comprised of the participants in this thread over the last 3 days would be so outrageously dysfunctional we could basically make it a youtube reality show.

Ironwolf

Quote from: Super Atom on April 18, 2019, 02:02:46 AM
This is pretty much how i feel about this.

I just remember the hope we had in a buyer and all the while these guys had the server. I want people to stop peeing on my head and telling me its raining.

I really am a boy scout, a veteran and believe in honor, duty and kindness and this whole thing stinks to high heaven.

Taceus Jiwede

Quote from: Ice Trix on April 18, 2019, 02:04:40 AM
And my post complaining about how the censorship of this site is restricting it all to an unrelated thread years old got censored.

No message of course.

No response about why this thread is the most suitable.

If I were to guess its because this is the most likely place people on this forum will know to look.  This post eventually became "official unofficial general discussion channel"  I imagine to prevent multiple threads from popping up, it was easiest to direct even who to the most popular, and commonly read the thread.

Super Atom

Quote from: Ironwolf on April 18, 2019, 02:07:26 AM
I just remember the hope we had in a buyer and all the while these guys had the server. I want people to stop peeing on my head and telling me its raining.

I really am a boy scout, a veteran and believe in honor, duty and kindness and this whole thing stinks to high heaven.

I remember seeing your posts and it just gave me the most hope(this thread technically?). Then it just went silent...at least we know the truths now. It's better than just sitting here and hoping. Attending events and being told by the people in control to keep hope while they got to log in to the game and play behind our backs.

Taceus Jiwede

Gonna echo the hope thing.  I remember how excited I was when I read all that.  I mean even now we are still using that same forum post years later.  I probably annoyed the hell out of everyone I know because I wouldn't shut up about the "superhero MMO I use to play might come back!"

Now I am just annoying them by complaining about how bummed I am there has been a secret server for years.  Bummed about the secretive, deceptive part.  Glad the game code still exists.

EDIT: I even remember where I was when I read the forum post like it was yesterday (This coming from a guy who forgets where his keys are on a daily basis).  That was the most excited and hopeful I have been about probably any game, ever.

weenus

Quote from: Super Atom on April 18, 2019, 02:07:48 AM
Dysfunctional because...?They got lied to and got hurt and are passionate about the game they loved? You're being more aggressive and uncivil than most of the people you claim are dysfunctional.

There we go with the knee jerk biting off of the head again.

It was a joke. I'm more talking about the fact that so many people in here are going back and forth and there is no general consensus over anything, you have people on all levels of the spectrum of responses to the news in this thread. That's why putting us all in one group would be dysfunctional, it's The Odd Couple aspect of it, I wasn't calling anyone in here dysfunctional people. Points for the triple axel over the gun though.

Ironwolf

Quote from: weenus on April 18, 2019, 02:16:08 AM
There we go with the knee jerk biting off of the head again.

It was a joke. I'm more talking about the fact that so many people in here are going back and forth and there is no general consensus over anything, you have people on all levels of the spectrum of responses to the news in this thread. That's why putting us all in one group would be dysfunctional, it's The Odd Couple aspect of it, I wasn't calling anyone in here dysfunctional people. Points for the triple axel over the gun though.
Lol, sounds like most pug TF's I got in - was there some reason we just aggro'd that 6th group?

undeadsuits

Quote from: Ice Trix on April 18, 2019, 02:06:53 AM
> If you are angry, yes you I'm talking directly to you behind the monitor: direct it to NCSoft.

And direct it to the people who gaslight and lied about the private cool kids server.

I'm going to be as gentle as I can with this, but I just wanted to second the notion that I think we need to acknowledge and get some sort of comment on some of the nasty behavior that's went on before the reveal. Stuff like the aforementioned gaslighting and lying. Not to mention the numerous people driven out of various coh communities, some here, the subreddit, the Facebook etc when people started getting close to finding out about score and what they were doing.

People were laughed out. Pushed out. Treated like flat earther big foot believer Alex Jones conspiracy nuts for believing in something that ended up being completely true. Regardless of whether anyone thinks that hiding the truth was required or not, I think there needs to be some apologies given to the people that were excluded and ruined for getting close to the truth.

Ice Trix

Quote from: Ironwolf on April 18, 2019, 02:07:26 AM
I just remember the hope we had in a buyer and all the while these guys had the server. I want people to stop peeing on my head and telling me its raining.

I really am a boy scout, a veteran and believe in honor, duty and kindness and this whole thing stinks to high heaven.

I really used to have had high opinions about the importance of community to many of the people now claiming it's raining. These were people whose word I trusted.

Kheprera

Quote from: Ironwolf on April 18, 2019, 02:18:15 AM
Lol, sounds like most pug TF's I got in - was there some reason we just aggro'd that 6th group?

Sorry, that was me. Accidentally turned on Superspeed after being hit with Speed Boost, lost control, got lost in the office map, and ended up smack dab in the middle of the room with the boss. Just use my corpse for Fallout.

Doc Boy