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LadyVamp

Quote from: Codewalker on April 15, 2016, 05:43:44 PM
I disagree.

We have no proof that Tubbius even applied for the job. He could just be posting here to troll us all.

Alternatively, since the university didn't call back yet, I think we can all agree that they're not really interested in hiring someone. They just have to post an opening and conduct a few interviews so they can qualify for a tax break.

This is fun. I could do this all day.

There is, of course, that possibility. 
No Surrender!

LateNights

Quote from: Codewalker on April 15, 2016, 05:43:44 PM
I disagree.

We have no proof that Tubbius even applied for the job. He could just be posting here to troll us all.

Alternatively, since the university didn't call back yet, I think we can all agree that they're not really interested in hiring someone. They just have to post an opening and conduct a few interviews so they can qualify for a tax break.

This is fun. I could do this all day.

I've been playing Gta V lately, so...they're probably racist too

Reaper

Quote from: Codewalker on April 15, 2016, 05:43:44 PM
I disagree.

We have no proof that Tubbius even applied for the job. He could just be posting here to troll us all.

Alternatively, since the university didn't call back yet, I think we can all agree that they're not really interested in hiring someone. They just have to post an opening and conduct a few interviews so they can qualify for a tax break.

This is fun. I could do this all day.

You sure?  It is possible the university invented Tubbius to fool the security guard into thinking that the Korean spring equinox was caused by fishing off of naval ships. That alone is worth all the coffee and pizza in the world!    ;)
Patiently lurking from the shadows...

Arcana

Quote from: Codewalker on April 15, 2016, 05:06:43 PM
I very much doubt affecting damage output was intentional.

It wasn't, and it didn't affect all powers, and they fixed it as soon as I brought it to their attention.

I think it was deliberate that the female animations were longer, but I don't think the dev team understood what kind of impact that would have on damage output.  Important to remember that the devs believed at launch that recharge was the most important parameter governing the strength of an attack.  If a power did a lot of damage, there was a rule to make its recharge longer to compensate.  There was an informal rule to make harder hitting attacks have longer animations, but that was just because it seemed conceptually reasonable: harder hitting attacks just look more impressive that way.  But Energy Transfer is what happens when that's a suggestion and not a rule.

Arcana

Quote from: LateNight on April 15, 2016, 03:41:13 PMStill, did you say Huge also had an advantage?

For the most part whenever Huge had a different animation from Male (which was not often, actually) it tended to have the same animation time.  It was rare that the Male animation wasn't the shortest one: it was the base from which the other two were "embellished" if at all.

Arcana

Quote from: LateNight on April 15, 2016, 01:20:17 PMFrom what I've learnt in my short time speaking with Arcana (which at times I adore), don't speak directly to her but instead approach the subject as if everyone on planet Earth may actually benefit from what she has to say (In this thread at least), because you'll get an answer much closer to what you wanted rather than an education in what you may have already known plus what you "meant" to ask...

To be fair, sometimes it's warranted that a baseline is found - most universities begin teaching people effective communication as a baseline no matter what you study (it's considered civilised) - but I empathise with you in that sometimes it's frustrating to hold a more formal conversation than you may have wanted.

Until you've exchanged a dozen PMs with Joshex discussing his version of what he calls physics, I don't think you have a sufficiently informed opinion on this subject.  Extreme formality is the unique self defense mechanism I employ when dealing with Joshex's posts because the alternative is to do what everyone else does, which is to generally treat his posts as if they are randomly generated and occasionally contain surprisingly coherent strings of words.  I at least assume he actually means something, I just assume it is extremely unlikely that the words he used convey that meaning.

Fireheart

Quote from: Arcana on April 15, 2016, 07:25:38 PM
But Energy Transfer is what happens when that's a suggestion and not a rule.
Right up until they decided to make all of Energy Melee's animations twice as long and turned Energy Transfer in a Navel Kamehameha.  I can't tell you how loud I screamed, in sheer frustration, when that happened.

Be Well!
Fireheart

ivanhedgehog

Quote from: Fireheart on April 15, 2016, 08:45:33 PM
Right up until they decided to make all of Energy Melee's animations twice as long and turned Energy Transfer in a Navel Kamehameha.  I can't tell you how loud I screamed, in sheer frustration, when that happened.

Be Well!
Fireheart

I parked my stone/em tank at that point, they were willing to "fix" em's front spot for single target but not willing to look at aoe damage. I just know the feel of EM changed for the worse.

Thunder Glove

Quote from: Fireheart on April 15, 2016, 08:45:33 PM
Right up until they decided to make all of Energy Melee's animations twice as long and turned Energy Transfer in a Navel Kamehameha.  I can't tell you how loud I screamed, in sheer frustration, when that happened.

Be Well!
Fireheart
I liked Energy Transfer's animation (especially after I saw how weak-looking the old one was), but ... yeah, it was too long.

I wonder if the problem of corpse-blasting could have been "fixed" by simply having the damage start earlier in the animation (say, have the Energy damage be a DoT over the length of the animation, while the physical damage is delivered all at once with the punch at the end).

But I don't think they changed ALL the animations, did they?  Just Energy Transfer.

Arcana

Quote from: Thunder Glove on April 15, 2016, 11:07:02 PM
I liked Energy Transfer's animation (especially after I saw how weak-looking the old one was), but ... yeah, it was too long.

I wonder if the problem of corpse-blasting could have been "fixed" by simply having the damage start earlier in the animation (say, have the Energy damage be a DoT over the length of the animation, while the physical damage is delivered all at once with the punch at the end).

But I don't think they changed ALL the animations, did they?  Just Energy Transfer.

I'm pretty certain they increased the animation times for two Energy Melee attacks: Energy Transfer went from 1.0 seconds to 2.67 seconds and Energy Punch went form something like 0.75 seconds to 0.83 seconds - along with all other punch-like attacks less than 0.83 seconds.  I seem to recall something got faster, but I'm not sure what it was.  Maybe bonesmasher.

At the new activation time Energy Transfer still had (unadjusted) 1.7 DPA, which made it still one of the best DPA attacks in the game.  The corpse-punching complaint was exaggerated: it was just so much slower than the original attack, but it wasn't all that much slower than other comparable attacks.  It was faster than Total Focus but did more damage.  It was only a tiny bit slower than Eagle's Claw while doing about double the damage.  And a lot of AoEs had similar cast times but they weren't seen as corpse-hitting attacks because of that.

I think the change was too dramatic for a long-established power, but I still think it should have been at least set to 2.0 seconds.  Also, the playerbase set themselves up for this by first complaining the self damage was too high.  I said back then that asking for the self damage to be reduced to the point where it didn't matter any more would make its DPA impossible to justify, but single target tanker job yada yada and I just put my told-you-so into a sealed envelope and went on my merry way.

Energy Melee's loss was everyone else's gain, because the same "is this animation appropriate for this attack" pass that BaB did across the melee sets caused basically every other melee set to improve, sometimes dramatically (exempting Claws that was adjusted separately).  War Mace, for example, is almost ridiculously faster than it was at release.

Soul Resonance

Quote from: Codewalker on April 15, 2016, 05:43:44 PM
I disagree.

We have no proof that Tubbius even applied for the job. He could just be posting here to troll us all.

Alternatively, since the university didn't call back yet, I think we can all agree that they're not really interested in hiring someone. They just have to post an opening and conduct a few interviews so they can qualify for a tax break.

This is fun. I could do this all day.

I dunno, I feel that the University isn't even 'in it' so to speak, I mean first they have to fight another university of rights to be a university, then an NDA over said university finally being acknowledged as being talked about being build as a university, locked me out of information I think I should know regarding the blueprint of said university.  ??? :roll: ;D.

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Victoria Victrix

Quote from: Arcana on April 15, 2016, 07:37:43 PM
Until you've exchanged a dozen PMs with Joshex discussing his version of what he calls physics, I don't think you have a sufficiently informed opinion on this subject.  Extreme formality is the unique self defense mechanism I employ when dealing with Joshex's posts because the alternative is to do what everyone else does, which is to generally treat his posts as if they are randomly generated and occasionally contain surprisingly coherent strings of words.  I at least assume he actually means something, I just assume it is extremely unlikely that the words he used convey that meaning.

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Taceus Jiwede

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Quote from: Arcana on April 15, 2016, 07:37:43 PM
Until you've exchanged a dozen PMs with Joshex discussing his version of what he calls physics, I don't think you have a sufficiently informed opinion on this subject.  Extreme formality is the unique self defense mechanism I employ when dealing with Joshex's posts because the alternative is to do what everyone else does, which is to generally treat his posts as if they are randomly generated and occasionally contain surprisingly coherent strings of words.  I at least assume he actually means something, I just assume it is extremely unlikely that the words he used convey that meaning.

"I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

One of my favorite quotes by Mr. Einstein.  And I actually would say Joshex seems rather passionately curious.  Which is admirable.  But there is a certain level of humility and humbleness that go along with that quote that Joshex chooses to ignore.  I am annoyed by his posts like that not because of their inaccuracy but at the lack of effort to correct said inaccuracies.

We all mistakes.  We can't all be right all the time.  But if you are gonna claim you can bring a celebrity back from the dead with some pseudo-science nonsense.  Or give legal advise that is extremely inaccurate and then claim it was a joke.  You need to be prepared for the blow-back that is gonna have.

I respect the way you approach those conversations.  I really do.  But it is understandable why the rest of us stopped looking at them in a way that is to be taken seriously.




JoshexProxy

Quote from: ukaserex on April 15, 2016, 02:42:40 PM
What? That's...just ... I mean... wow. I'm going to assume the math played out that it was negligible- too minor to notice.

But, still, wow.

I'm guessing it also depends on the set, no complaints from my will/electric fem tanker. Or if there was a penalty it was too small to notice.

LateNights

Quote from: Arcana on April 15, 2016, 07:37:43 PM
Until you've exchanged a dozen PMs with Joshex discussing his version of what he calls physics, I don't think you have a sufficiently informed opinion on this subject.  Extreme formality is the unique self defense mechanism I employ when dealing with Joshex's posts because the alternative is to do what everyone else does, which is to generally treat his posts as if they are randomly generated and occasionally contain surprisingly coherent strings of words.  I at least assume he actually means something, I just assume it is extremely unlikely that the words he used convey that meaning.

Trust me, I've made it clear that I hate feeling deceived for having read some of Joshexs posts.

And while I quite enjoy reading your rebuttal, because I might actually learn something or at the very least read about the way something actually works - satisfying my curiosity and leaving me feeling as though my time hasn't been completely wasted, I need him to act a little closer to "normal", because I don't need the aggravation.

Because trolling isn't just "funsies" on the Internet, if I get sufficiently angry enough to change my mood, that affects actual real people around me - that matters!!

I mean, all people have asked of him is that he just posts a question, rather than act like he actually is one of his characters.

But, I'm not sure how best to express that to him?

So, I apologise if what I said sounded as though your time is less important - my only excuse is that I really am desperate to cut the bullshit out of my life...

JoshexProxy

Quote from: Arcana on April 15, 2016, 07:37:43 PM
Until you've exchanged a dozen PMs with Joshex discussing his version of what he calls physics, I don't think you have a sufficiently informed opinion on this subject.  Extreme formality is the unique self defense mechanism I employ when dealing with Joshex's posts because the alternative is to do what everyone else does, which is to generally treat his posts as if they are randomly generated and occasionally contain surprisingly coherent strings of words.  I at least assume he actually means something, I just assume it is extremely unlikely that the words he used convey that meaning.

Most likely because I'm used to using general terminology so people other than the well educated can understand the concept of the meaning.

Just for insulting my physics model though I'll have to give you a direct Einstein breaker. Direct in that; the effect comes from the source of the dispute.

A Photon. I say, there is no max speed in the universe, Einstein says there is and it's the speed a photon travels, I can provide evidence on multiple counts of data collected in scientific experiments (a lot not even run by me and not trying to prove my theory but exactly the opposite) that support my statement. Yet Einstein followers can support their statement too with findings produced by experiments which they specifically designed to prove such (see the difference here?).

Right where was I, oh yeah the relativity killer, what is matter? forces and fields. Even the smallest forms of matter have fields. Photons also have fields. Fields emit from one pole towards the opposite,  this is a motion, motion is a form of energy.

If a photon truly travels at the speed of light (which we know it does) then in order for it's field to get from one pole to another it must travel faster than light at some point. if not then photons can't have fields, or their fields don't move (which is preposterous or they would cease to generate and as a result photons would have 0% flat intractability, no transfer of energy, nothing, in fact they wouldn't be able to exist).

The photon itself breaks the so called max speed limit of the universe or at least it's field does.

Honestly setting a speed limit is a lame way to help yourself measure things moving slower than it. Yeah it works, but only for things slower than it.

darkgob

Quote from: LateNight on April 16, 2016, 06:35:52 AM
Trust me, I've made it clear that I hate feeling deceived for having read some of Joshexs posts.

And while I quite enjoy reading your rebuttal, because I might actually learn something or at the very least read about the way something actually works - satisfying my curiosity and leaving me feeling as though my time hasn't been completely wasted, I need him to act a little closer to "normal", because I don't need the aggravation.

Because trolling isn't just "funsies" on the Internet, if I get sufficiently angry enough to change my mood, that affects actual real people around me - that matters!!

I mean, all people have asked of him is that he just posts a question, rather than act like he actually is one of his characters.

But, I'm not sure how best to express that to him?

So, I apologise if what I said sounded as though your time is less important - my only excuse is that I really am desperate to cut the bullshit out of my life...

If someone bothers you to this extent then you should use whatever ignore/block features exist so you don't have to read anything they say.

Felderburg

#23818
What is corpse-hitting?

Quote from: JoshexProxy on April 16, 2016, 08:14:26 AM
Even the smallest forms of matter have fields. Photons also have fields. Fields emit from one pole towards the opposite,  this is a motion, motion is a form of energy.

What is a field?
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LateNights

Quote from: darkgob on April 16, 2016, 12:48:46 PM
If someone bothers you to this extent then you should use whatever ignore/block features exist so you don't have to read anything they say.

No I know, it's crossed my mind to just not read here at all.

I'll check in because I've lurked here since the announcement was made before the game closed, so to pretend I don't care at all won't help.

Still sad to think that I can't speak to other people that played the game though.