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Quote from: chuckv3 on March 15, 2016, 04:51:05 PM
JUST A THOUGHT...

If NCSoft continues to screw up, weakening itself in the process, we might be able to just buy NCSoft in order to get the rights to CoH.
That would be even more sweet than getting the game back... fire the ALL.... muahahahaha

Arcana

Quote from: chuckv3 on March 15, 2016, 04:51:05 PM
JUST A THOUGHT...

If NCSoft continues to screw up, weakening itself in the process, we might be able to just buy NCSoft in order to get the rights to CoH.

Wishful thinking, unfortunately.  There are corporations that are far superior wells of crazy than NCSoft without completely self-destructing.  Some, like Symantec, appear to be too stubborn to die.  Others, like Oracle, actually seem to make it work for them.

chuckv3

Quote from: Arcana on March 15, 2016, 07:36:03 PM
Wishful thinking, unfortunately.  There are corporations that are far superior wells of crazy than NCSoft without completely self-destructing.  Some, like Symantec, appear to be too stubborn to die.  Others, like Oracle, actually seem to make it work for them.

Yeah, I know. I looked up their net worth and it's a ridiculously high number. They'd have to do some major crashing and burning, and even so, they'd no doubt get gobbled up some other large company if they started to sink.

Sinistar

Quote from: Aggelakis on March 15, 2016, 07:09:05 PM
Nexon tried to buy enough just to get on the board of directors, and it cost them a whackload of money, and they still failed in the end. Good luck with that. Hope you win the next multi-kajillion lottery cos that's what it would take.
If I won the next super lottery jackpot, after dealing other things of high importance, I'd look to getting ownership of the SCI-FI channel and toss out that stupid SYFY logo......
In fearful COH-less days
In Raging COH-less nights
With Strong Hearts Full, we shall UNITE!
When all seems lost in the effort to bring CoH back to life,
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FloatingFatMan

Quote from: Sinistar on March 15, 2016, 09:52:30 PM
If I won the next super lottery jackpot, after dealing other things of high importance, I'd look to getting ownership of the SCI-FI channel and toss out that stupid SYFY logo......

While you're at it, could you make them start showing actual science fiction again instead of really really bad horror B movies?

Vee

Quote from: FloatingFatMan on March 15, 2016, 09:56:58 PM
While you're at it, could you make them start showing actual science fiction again instead of really really bad horror B movies?

I take it you missed Dark Matter, the Expanse, 12 Monkeys and Killjoys?

LaughingAlex

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I believe FloatingFatMan is refering to their tendency to not make their own science fiction movies and outsource to low budget film makers to make general horrible b horror films.  They don't make their movies, other people who suck at it do :/.

And yes, I tried watching 12 monkeys.

I also looked up the other movies/TV series.

SyFy hasn't ever really had a difficult time with tv series, that does not count.  When it comes to movies, if it's good, they never made it.  But they also contract to numerous low budget people who just, don't know what they are doing.  So you end up seeing crap with low quality CGI and generally stupid plots flooding them, which of course hurts their rep.  They survive on their TV series, but their movies are their biggest enemies.
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Quote from: FloatingFatMan on March 15, 2016, 09:56:58 PM
While you're at it, could you make them start showing actual science fiction again instead of really really bad horror B movies?

No.  Really bad B horror movies will continue until morale improves.

Arcana

Quote from: LaughingAlex on March 15, 2016, 11:23:13 PM
I believe FloatingFatMan is refering to their tendency to not make their own science fiction movies and outsource to low budget film makers to make general horrible b horror films.  They don't make their movies, other people who suck at it do :/.

To be fair, "made for TV movie" is rarely a good thing on any network: SyFy channel's are just as much of a dumpster fire but to their credit they aren't art projects that are thrown away and set on fire, they are shiny new dumpsters explicitly loaded with charcoal briquettes.

If you discount TV movies that were directly connected to already established television shows (i.e. the Babylon-5 and Stargate movies) or spin offs of other television or movie properties, the slate is pretty slim on made for television scifi movies with good production value and not horrible acting.  In fact all the good ones I can think of aired as miniseries, like The Stand.  And that was over twenty years ago.

While searching my memory for scifi television projects the TekWar series starring Greg Evigan popped into my head.  That originally aired as four two-hour made for tv movies, so although they eventually turned it into a series I think that counts as tv movies.  Those were a guilty pleasure of mine back then, although I'm not sure if they objectively qualify as good scifi television.  I'm a Greg Evigan fan, so I'm biased there.

Aron

Quote from: Arcana on March 16, 2016, 12:17:59 AM

If you discount TV movies that were directly connected to already established television shows (i.e. the Babylon-5 and Stargate movies) or spin offs of other television or movie properties, the slate is pretty slim on made for television scifi movies with good production value and not horrible acting.  In fact all the good ones I can think of aired as miniseries, like The Stand.  And that was over twenty years ago.



It has been a while so my memory might be off but I thought Dagon was a pretty good lovecraft style horror film.  Wasn't that a SyFy original?

Dr. Bad Guy

Quote from: FloatingFatMan on March 15, 2016, 09:56:58 PM
While you're at it, could you make them start showing actual science fiction again instead of really really bad horror B movies?
Maybe explain to them that there are years of the Human/Cylon war to mine for plot development.

Remaugen

Quote from: chuckv3 on March 15, 2016, 04:51:05 PM
JUST A THOUGHT...

If NCSoft continues to screw up, weakening itself in the process, we might be able to just buy NCSoft in order to get the rights to CoH.

Because of diversity, NCSoft's total portfolio is nearly triple what it was when CoH was shutdown, if Nexon couldn't leverage a take over then no one else is likely too.
We're almost there!  ;D

The RNG hates me.

Angel Phoenix77

Quote from: Aron on March 16, 2016, 12:54:43 AM
It has been a while so my memory might be off but I thought Dagon was a pretty good lovecraft style horror film.  Wasn't that a SyFy original?
Dagon, was not made by syfy, due to a few reasons, one it is a good movie. Something syfy cannot do. Reason two, if I remember correctly syfy only makes movies such as magashark vs sharknado. These movies are not to be taken serious whereas Dagon is a serious movie.
Actually, it is a Lovecraft movie (Shadow over Innsmouth) just renamed.
One day the Phoenix will rise again.

Aggelakis

Quote from: Aron on March 16, 2016, 12:54:43 AM
It has been a while so my memory might be off but I thought Dagon was a pretty good lovecraft style horror film.  Wasn't that a SyFy original?
Dagon was a Spanish film o.O?
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Quote from: Arcana on March 16, 2016, 12:17:59 AM
If you discount TV movies that were directly connected to already established television shows (i.e. the Babylon-5 and Stargate movies)

Thirdspace. That is all.

Plus the one Stargate movie that was the exact same plot as the Season 8 finale, except featuring the Fargate crew instead of the original cast.

Quote from: Arcana on March 16, 2016, 12:17:59 AM
In fact all the good ones I can think of aired as miniseries, like The Stand.  And that was over twenty years ago.

I remember really enjoying Something is Out There. But again, (1) not SyFy, (2) miniseries, and (3) a long time ago.

QuoteWhile searching my memory for scifi television projects the TekWar series starring Greg Evigan popped into my head.  That originally aired as four two-hour made for tv movies, so although they eventually turned it into a series I think that counts as tv movies.  Those were a guilty pleasure of mine back then, although I'm not sure if they objectively qualify as good scifi television.

My 'not good scifi' guilty pleasure is probably Season 1 of Andromeda, when it was 'Hercules in Space... but with some interesting ideas, a lot of potential, and Ronald D. Moore setting up some epic arcs for later'. Then they fired the one good thing they had going for them and turned it into just plain Hercules and Space. Only made it halfway through Season 2 before I gave up.

JoshexProxy

So, no CoH yet today as well. Not that it is unexpected, after all it's not like when the game returns it will just pop back into existence without warning lol, well at least those of us who frequent this place or have signed up for codewalker's wake me thread and check our email regularly wont be caught off guard when it happens.

besides that fact I'm sure the announcement will come before the game. they aren't just gonna be like "oh.. hey guys, you do realize the server has been up for a month now right? or did you not see our advertisement in [insert obscure place no one ever looks]?"

They will make a big deal about it when they are ready, it'll be all over facebook, there will be a major note on NCSoft's home page confirming the case, heck they may even send emails to former players informing them directly if they still have that info in their support center. There will be something on youtube, whether fan made or made by the THeM or NCSoft as sort-of a "Sunrise" video welcoming heroes back.

Then I will make teh poor quality falsh animayshun parody version and flame teh newgrounds and chans with it.

whatever happens, when this stuff starts the server will not be running /yet/, they'll probably give people a chance to collect themselves about the end of the deal ( https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.forkheads.net%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Ficon_fhawesomesd3.gif) before they go launching it.

the question now is what will you do when the announcement comes?


Arcana

Quote from: Codewalker on March 16, 2016, 02:31:05 AM
Thirdspace. That is all.

Plus the one Stargate movie that was the exact same plot as the Season 8 finale, except featuring the Fargate crew instead of the original cast.

I didn't mean to imply they were all good, just that some of them were good.  Although I didn't think Thirdspace was Syfy bad, it was mostly not up to B5's (usually better) standards.

One thing about Thirdspace that I often wonder what people are thinking when they write it.  When the Thirdspace gate is activated the Thirdspace aliens immediately enter normal space and attack Babylon-5.  Were they waiting at the gate for thousands of years like someone waiting for an elevator that is shut down?  Don't they get bored?  If the Vorlons created two gates and opened them simultaneously would the aliens invade both gates, only one gate, or get confused and have to figure out what to do?

Codewalker

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Ivanova: No! And neither should you!

The whole mess could have been avoided if the Vorlons way back when had just remembered that "Ivanova is always right. I will listen to Ivanova. I will not ignore Ivanova's recommendations. Ivanova is God."

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