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Sinistar

Quote from: rebel_1812 on February 12, 2015, 02:11:42 AM
Just got to send to an offshore account.  That way it won't be taxed.

Hm, Swiss account or Cayman Islands?
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pinballdave

Quote from: Sinistar on February 12, 2015, 03:37:34 AM
Hm, Swiss account or Cayman Islands?

I suggest Cayman's its a good place to visit for beach experience

JanessaVR

Quote from: Sinistar on February 12, 2015, 03:37:34 AM
Hm, Swiss account or Cayman Islands?
Actually, neither Switzerland nor the Cayman Islands are secure from snooping/seizure.  Belize is actually your best bet.  I did some research on this a while back for a tabletop RPG campaign I was designing.

Felderburg

Quote from: Harpospoke on February 11, 2015, 11:55:11 PM
I've never gotten the logic that the state hands you money you won from them....but take a big piece of it back as they are handing it to you.

I'm under the impression that the various big lottery companies are private corporations - states just legalize & tax them.

Quote from: BadWolf on February 11, 2015, 10:50:54 PM
I made one, then chickened out and deleted her because I thought she might get generic'd. She was going to be Immortal Barbie, a perky supernatural hero who dealt with the things that were beyond Mortal Ken.

...get it?

I laughed out loud.

Quote from: JanessaVR on February 12, 2015, 03:54:40 AM
Actually, neither Switzerland nor the Cayman Islands are secure from snooping/seizure.  Belize is actually your best bet.  I did some research on this a while back for a tabletop RPG campaign I was designing.

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Quote from: JanessaVR on February 11, 2015, 10:22:45 PM
Indeed.  The proper way to play CoH is with a soft, purry kitty on your lap.  :)
If I did that, I wouldn't actually be able to play. My eyes would be swollen shut and I'd be sneezing so much.  Stupid cat allergies...
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Quote from: Waffles on February 12, 2015, 03:37:25 AM
I remember one time, on my MA/regen, before I13, In warburg, I was dueling my blast friend on top of a roof, and I crane kicked him off while he was at low health, and jumped after him, eagles claw's animation played out, and when it finished, it looked like I did an airborne curbstomp, as the critical Eagle's claw's animation connected with his head.


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Quote from: pinballdave on February 12, 2015, 03:45:22 AM
I suggest Cayman's its a good place to visit for beach experience

as you would be winning the lottery inside the US, the irs gets their first. you wouldnt be able to send it anywhere first. you would have to win that money in some country that doesnt have treaties regarding that with the US.

brothermutant

Quote from: BadWolf on February 11, 2015, 10:50:54 PM
I made one, then chickened out and deleted her because I thought she might get generic'd. She was going to be Immortal Barbie, a perky supernatural hero who dealt with the things that were beyond Mortal Ken.

...get it?
I made a tri-dark defender called "Soul Sucking Barbie" and they didn't genericize her. Had her for years, kept introducing myself as  Soul Sucking Barbie and always got a laugh, especially after I told people I made her based on my kid sister. Always funny.

hurple

Quote from: BadWolf on February 11, 2015, 10:50:54 PM
I made one, then chickened out and deleted her because I thought she might get generic'd. She was going to be Immortal Barbie, a perky supernatural hero who dealt with the things that were beyond Mortal Ken.


That's funny.  I had a few favorite comedy characters.  Chuckles the Barbarian (he was a clown), Captain Colorblind, and Abe Vigoda.

My paranormal specialist was Zachariah Abel, a DP/Energy blaster.  He was a direct descendant of *that* Abel.  The 7th son of a 7th son born at the stroke of midnight on All Hallow's Eve.  So, he had a special affinity for the supernatural, he was drawn to it, and could *see*... He had no affinity for practicing Magicks, but had traveled the world gathering magical artifacts that he was now using to stop those who would pervert magick to harm others.

His artifacts included the Witchfinder General's Flintlocks, the Shield Bracelet of Dresden, The Boots of the West Wind and others I no longer remember.  Basically, if he had a power, I devised an artifact to explain it. 

He dressed in a mixture of modern and steampunk clothes.

I based him on Harry Dresden, Cal McDonald, and Solomon Kane with dashes of other characters here and there.

He's one of the toons I miss the most.

Joshex

Quote from: ivanhedgehog on February 12, 2015, 06:14:31 AM
as you would be winning the lottery inside the US, the irs gets their first. you wouldnt be able to send it anywhere first. you would have to win that money in some country that doesnt have treaties regarding that with the US.
Quote from: ivanhedgehog on February 12, 2015, 06:14:31 AM
as you would be winning the lottery inside the US, the irs gets their first. you wouldnt be able to send it anywhere first. you would have to win that money in some country that doesnt have treaties regarding that with the US.

did you know that that's the problem with "the price is right"? many of the winning contestants end up having to turn down their winnings because they still need to pay the tax on them. so "A new car!" is more like "Oh F-....... why me...?". Oh I did almost forget to mention this too; the tax you pay on any winnings isn't normal tax either, it's a 60% gambling tax. so the winner ends up forking over 60% of the price of whatever they win, imagine winning a new rollsroyce at 400 grand pounds + you're looking at 240 grand in taxes minimum.

I've also heard several stories about the money earnings too, some have said you can't claim it unless you can pay the tax first. Gotta have money to make money..

I don't believe that though I believe you need initiative and skill to make money. and always remember this; you'll never truly make good money working for someone else.
There is always another way. But it might not work exactly like you may desire.

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Quote from: Joshex on February 12, 2015, 05:25:48 PM
I've also heard several stories about the money earnings too, some have said you can't claim it unless you can pay the tax first. Gotta have money to make money..
Winning a physical item is different than winning money. Money, they just deduct the taxes from the winnings before giving the winner the rest. Physical stuff, the taxes have to be paid by the winner.

Same thing happens with, for instance, inheritance. When my mom passed, I inherited a small amount of money - they took estimated taxes out of it then passed the remainder on to me.
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Quote from: ivanhedgehog on February 12, 2015, 06:14:31 AM
as you would be winning the lottery inside the US, the irs gets their first. you wouldnt be able to send it anywhere first. you would have to win that money in some country that doesnt have treaties regarding that with the US.

http://www.theguardian.com/money/2012/sep/10/do-you-pay-tax-lottery-win

You all need to jump the pond ;)
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Quote from: Aggelakis on February 12, 2015, 05:38:25 PM
Winning a physical item is different than winning money. Money, they just deduct the taxes from the winnings before giving the winner the rest. Physical stuff, the taxes have to be paid by the winner.

Exactly....the lottery commission withholds 25% federal prior to sending you the $$$ and issues a W-2G year end accordingly....pick your poison for state tax  :P

Joshex

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Quote from: Groundbreaker on February 12, 2015, 05:46:53 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/money/2012/sep/10/do-you-pay-tax-lottery-win

You all need to jump the pond ;)

sorry to burst your bubble on the lottery, I did some research into it a while back....

All sets of 5 numbers purchased on tickets are sent to a central server where a supercomputer sifts them through a number table, then a list of billions of different number combos to find the perfect combination that no one has 4 or more numbers of if possible, if not possible it picks randomly between the lowest groups of winners. these numbers are then forwarded to the human drawing crew, who then insert these number balls into the number picker machine (next time you watch the lotto drawing take screen shots of the balls before they are dropped, though you can pick numbers 1 to 77? (I think) the numbers present are about 1 to 15 or 40 and not in exact sequence some numbers are skipped intentionally.

end result? they know what the handfull of winning numbers are before they are drawn, they know who will win, they can even statistically control it so close business associates, friends and political party enthusiasts they met can win.

it's rigged, it's fixed, it's a scam, you have worse odds of winning than they say. there is still a chance you'll win, but only a freak chance because the number combos were too far wide spread for the supercomputer to find a "no match" combo, that and you'll be sharing it mostly with the government (60%) and splitting the remainings between the other winners some of which were "entered at the last second".

Also there's fairly good evidence that some of the guys that whooped my blaster's butt in independence port are running the show, I tried to stop them (actually I was just walking past as a lowbie exploring and they got the jump on me) striped suits... so...professional?.

oh also, never buy a default number ticket. always pick your own numbers. buying a random number ticket makes it easy for the super computer to generate a "no match" number.

also, another true fact: the government uses the number of lotto ticket buyers as part of a statistic to determine how desperate the majority of the public are. they then use this to develop speeches and campaigns for their own gain.
There is always another way. But it might not work exactly like you may desire.

A wise old rabbit once told me "Never give-up!, Trust your instincts!" granted the advice at the time led me on a tripped-out voyage out of an asteroid belt, but hey it was more impressive than a bunch of rocks and space monkies.

Pengy

It's not actually possible for a supercomputer to pick exactly five numbers, whether it uses a database or a Big Box o'XML™ or whatever. You'd need a ninja or some type of Mastermind. The government actually uses a large amount of ninjas for all its operations that involve picking random numbers from a list, not only the lottery but things like air traffic control, numbering of new interstate highways, and election results. The ninjas are produced in special government-run orphanages in the Ozarks.

Fable

You have a better chance of getting hit by a plane and lighting, while Nemesis gives you an old fashioned. The lottery is for fools.

See I even managed to make my comment CoH related  ;D
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Ironwolf

Quote from: Joshex on February 12, 2015, 06:12:43 PM
sorry to burst your bubble on the lottery, I did some research into it a while back....

All sets of 5 numbers purchased on tickets are sent to a central server where a supercomputer sifts them through a number table, then a list of billions of different number combos to find the perfect combination that no one has 4 or more numbers of if possible, if not possible it picks randomly between the lowest groups of winners. these numbers are then forwarded to the human drawing crew, who then insert these number balls into the number picker machine (next time you watch the lotto drawing take screen shots of the balls before they are dropped, though you can pick numbers 1 to 77? (I think) the numbers present are about 1 to 15 or 40 and not in exact sequence some numbers are skipped intentionally.

end result? they know what the handfull of winning numbers are before they are drawn, they know who will win, they can even statistically control it so close business associates, friends and political party enthusiasts they met can win.

it's rigged, it's fixed, it's a scam, you have worse odds of winning than they say. there is still a chance you'll win, but only a freak chance because the number combos were too far wide spread for the supercomputer to find a "no match" combo, that and you'll be sharing it mostly with the government (60%) and splitting the remainings between the other winners some of which were "entered at the last second".

Also there's fairly good evidence that some of the guys that whooped my blaster's butt in independence port are running the show, I tried to stop them (actually I was just walking past as a lowbie exploring and they got the jump on me) striped suits... so...professional?.

oh also, never buy a default number ticket. always pick your own numbers. buying a random number ticket makes it easy for the super computer to generate a "no match" number.

also, another true fact: the government uses the number of lotto ticket buyers as part of a statistic to determine how desperate the majority of the public are. they then use this to develop speeches and campaigns for their own gain.

I am not sure if living in your world would be a good thing or a bad thing.

What in your experience has ever shown you that the government is capable of any of this? The US Government is completely incompetent and yet it is less incompetent than many others. A scarey thought.

I served in the US military and had a Top Secret clearance - let me tell you this is more like it:

(quotes from the movie Armageddon)

President: Dan, we didn't see this thing coming?

Dan: Well, our object collison budget's a million dollars, that allows us to track about 3% of the sky, and beg'n your pardon sir, but it's a big-ass sky.



Harry Stamper: What's your contingency plan?

Truman: Contingency plan?

Harry Stamper:
Your backup plan. You gotta have some kind of backup plan, right?
Truman: No, we don't have a back up plan. This is it.

Harry Stamper: And this is the best that you c - that the-the government, the *U.S. government* can come up with? I mean, you-you're NASA for cryin' out loud, you put a man on the moon, you're geniuses! You-you're the guys that think this shit up! I'm sure you got a team of men sitting around somewhere right now just thinking shit up and somebody backing them up! You're telling me you don't have a backup plan, that these eight boy scouts right here, that is the world's hope, that's what you're telling me?

Truman: Yeah.


This is what our government is like. They are not capable of some difficult plan to cheat the public.

OzonePrime


Harpospoke

Quote from: Felderburg on February 12, 2015, 03:56:07 AM
I'm under the impression that the various big lottery companies are private corporations - states just legalize & tax them.
It might be different in various states.   In Texas, it's run by the state to generate funds for various things like education. (Which I'm sure they spend on other stuff instead)

So it does seem odd that you can win money from them...but they then take a big chunk of it before handing it to you.
Quote from: Joshex on February 12, 2015, 05:25:48 PMI don't believe that though I believe you need initiative and skill to make money. and always remember this; you'll never truly make good money working for someone else.
Probably true.

But it might also be true that you will never have any free time working for yourself.

I suppose a person has to balance which is more important...money or time.  I have to say I come down in favor of the latter.

I've managed to find a way to work for myself and have very little money.   ;D  (musician)   I'm happy though since I get time in the bargain and enjoy myself every second when I'm "working".   I won't be one of those people spending my last moments of life regretting that I spent most of my time trying to make money.   Luckily I live in the developed world in the 21st century where being "poor" is far better than our richest ancestors lived their lives.  I've "only" got a Toyota instead of a BMW.    I can take it.    :)

Reaper

Quote from: Harpospoke on February 12, 2015, 08:26:14 PM
Luckily I live in the developed world in the 21st century where being "poor" is far better than our richest ancestors lived their lives.

It's funny how often many people forget this.  I know not everyone would feel this way, but in many cases, things could be worse...
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