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[Ohioknight]

I'd cheerfully pay double that every month to have CoH back, even as a zombie i23.

I wouldn't be cheerful to pay double $20/month... but I would pay it.

[Ankhammon]

this is the time that tries super souls!

mmmmm... soup for souls.

[Risha]

I don't check in here as often as I did.  Several days go by instead of several hours.  But I continue to miss CoX, and worse, I know I'm beginning to forget much of the game (okay, not the story lines, those I recall).  My computer(s) crashed and I lost Sentinel, and though I took all the pics of my toons, I closed everything when I did, and I didn't really keep track of even the primary and secondary powers they had.  Enough of rambling.  I'm sure I'm not alone, and since crazy deadline 1.5 year is over, I really miss my alternate world.

Anyway, for kicks I googled city of heroes and ncsoft has a pointer from it to their main site.  Not sure when this went up, but I thought that even, say, mid last-year, they had the closing statement.

Dream well.
Robin

[Sinistar]

I wouldn't be cheerful to pay double $20/month... but I would pay it.

As would I.  that zombie i23 is going to get a workout with all the returning people looking to reconstruct their old favorites and new toons.  :)

[JanessaVR]

Yeah, I read that the other day. No doubt, there are many, many lurkers waiting for news. Active posters don't equate to those who have an interest in the games return. I don't let that bother me. Also, AFAIK CoX never charged more than a $15 monthly fee. Many of us, in the past, have said we'd be willing to pay a full price sub. Personally I wouldn't mind a sliding scale for those who wanted to contribute a bit more to funding CoX 1.5. For some of us it's well worth it! Or hopefully I can pay to get my 8 years of vet rewards back :D

Exactly - if they want to charge me $500 for the "absolutely every perk/power, big bag of INF, and one each of the purple IO enhancements pack," I'd be reaching for my credit card without thinking twice.

[GN2]

I seriously hope they *don't* offer INF. The game was already getting a bit pay 2 win by the end of it's life cycle with the boosts and whatnot, outright paying for ingame money would be silly.

[Vee]

I really need them to say they have succeeded at negotiations....swtor just started bait and switch

You had to know they couldn't really keep the jawa junk at that drop rate. I'm just glad they didn't bother to take the half second it would take to realize the catastrophic effect it'd have on the market as i'm now all set for rare mats hopefully til CoX is back.

[JanessaVR]

I seriously hope they *don't* offer INF. The game was already getting a bit pay 2 win by the end of it's life cycle with the boosts and whatnot, outright paying for ingame money would be silly.

[shrugs]  If not, then just like last time, I'll pay my friends to go farm it for me.  :)

[ivanhedgehog]

You had to know they couldn't really keep the jawa junk at that drop rate. I'm just glad they didn't bother to take the half second it would take to realize the catastrophic effect it'd have on the market as i'm now all set for rare mats hopefully til CoX is back.

what catastrophic effect? so the star wars wanna be hutts couldnt keep making millions? not a big deal

I am to the point of resubbing into wow

[Sinistar]

I seriously hope they *don't* offer INF. The game was already getting a bit pay 2 win by the end of it's life cycle with the boosts and whatnot, outright paying for ingame money would be silly.

Would rather have them offer for a limited time "instant level 50", buy the item and click it and your character instantly levels to 50.

For those that have many characters to recreate and don't want to grind/farm/play them all to 50 ;) 8)

[Auroxis]

I seriously hope they *don't* offer INF. The game was already getting a bit pay 2 win by the end of it's life cycle with the boosts and whatnot, outright paying for ingame money would be silly.

It was very much pay2win with end-game character builds (incarnate abilities and IO set bonuses) locked to subscribed users only.

[brothermutant]

Oh, how I miss the characters I had that could crush Recluse.....

Did anyone have a fav toon that could solo that recluse TF (Statesman TF yes?)? If so, share how it went and how long the TF took you.

[brothermutant]

Would rather have them offer for a limited time "instant level 50", buy the item and click it and your character instantly levels to 50.

For those that have many characters to recreate and don't want to grind/farm/play them all to 50 ;) 8)

Screw that. I likes my monies, and I really wanna level my toons back up. Been jonesing for  bank heist! Who's with me?!? You break out the villain in the Police Station jail cell and the rest of you, FOLLOW ME to VICTORY!

[Vee]

what catastrophic effect? so the star wars wanna be hutts couldnt keep making millions? not a big deal

I am to the point of resubbing into wow

Yeah it's no biggy to me since tor basically prints money if you actually play quite a bit. But the prices of rare mats and items crafted with them dropping to less than half their market value in the course of a few days is kind of a big deal, especially since that was one of the few ways casual players could make decent amounts of money that didn't involve dropping money on the cartel market. Funny though that they rushed to fix this that they specifically said wasn't an exploit while they let the ravagers exploit which really was only available to a small percentage of high end raiders go on for a month. Of course they were on holiday most of that time so i suppose that's the difference. Supposedly there are going to be other slots with other goodies soon. Hopefully they'll think through the drop rate beforehand with those.

[umber]

It was very much pay2win with end-game character builds (incarnate abilities and IO set bonuses) locked to subscribed users only.

They had to generate revenue somehow, *something* was going to be behind a paywall.  CoX was more generous with its free content than any F2P game I'd ever investigated with the vast majority of CoX content free for the taking.  I just don't know if you can call locking end-game content to subscription-only as "pay2win".  If you're participating in end-game content you're no longer casually demoing the product, you should be supporting the game with a sub.

It baffles me how tight-fisted some CoHers were with the game they supposedly loved.  I'm not wealthy by any means but with the game being my primary hobby its $15/month subscription fee (actually, had two paid accounts and multiple free accounts) was a triviality for the amount of entertainment I received.

[Felderburg]

The theoretical Disney version would probably be "City of Princesses", and... I wouldn't want to go there.... :o

Ok, but, see, now I'm imagining a world where you have to fend off a shape-changing witch / dragon, and then you run around on horseback shooting laser arrows at everything, and the Princess Leia comes down from the sky on board a sweet Star Wars ship, and you join her in fending off a Darth Vader / ice golem team up.

[Burnt Toast]

I 100% disagree  with your interpretation  of pay to win. The ONLY thing being subbed guranteed you play wise was...incarnate content/powers. Incarnate  powers did not help you "win" CoH because... you are already max level.

Sorry but non-paying "customers" should NEVER get everything  a paying customer does...plain and simple.

It was very much pay2win with end-game character builds (incarnate abilities and IO set bonuses) locked to subscribed users only.

[darkgob]

It was very much pay2win with end-game character builds (incarnate abilities and IO set bonuses) locked to subscribed users only.

That's not what pay2win means.  Now, offering IO sets in the cash shop that are better than in-game earnable sets?  That's pay2win, which sadly started to look like the direction the game was heading in near the end (albeit perhaps for good reason, as it turns out).

[Minotaur]

I 100% disagree  with your interpretation  of pay to win. The ONLY thing being subbed guranteed you play wise was...incarnate content/powers. Incarnate  powers did not help you "win" CoH because... you are already max level.

Sorry but non-paying "customers" should NEVER get everything  a paying customer does...plain and simple.

Indeed, there needs to be a reason to subscribe

[Auroxis]

They had to generate revenue somehow, *something* was going to be behind a paywall.  CoX was more generous with its free content than any F2P game I'd ever investigated with the vast majority of CoX content free for the taking.  I just don't know if you can call locking end-game content to subscription-only as "pay2win".  If you're participating in end-game content you're no longer casually demoing the product, you should be supporting the game with a sub.

It baffles me how tight-fisted some CoHers were with the game they supposedly loved.  I'm not wealthy by any means but with the game being my primary hobby its $15/month subscription fee (actually, had two paid accounts and multiple free accounts) was a triviality for the amount of entertainment I received.

Other things were behind a paywall such as costume pieces and character slots, a payment model which works fine for other games.  Players rewarding developers for good content by buying cosmetics is a thing.

Honestly, I was mostly upset that the F2P model didn't cater for my needs. I was a loyal subscriber for several years, but for a lengthy period of time I wasn't able to log in due to RL issues. Instead of 30 hours a week I was logging in for 2 hours a week. I wasn't getting much value out of my subscription fee, and cancelling it made me unable to play the character I spent months building (but rather a shadow of its former self). At the twilight of the game I found myself paying the full subscription fee mostly due to wanting to keep the game afloat, and not because I was happy with the content I was given access to.

Yes you can always raise the argument of "well they gave you access to your character without having to pay for it, be grateful!" but no, it wasn't my character. It wasn't the beloved creation I spent months building.